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Are fans and critics too hard on Sonic games?
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Are fans and critics too hard on Sonic games?
RedFox99 > 12-28-2023, 12:57 PM
I mean, sure, there are a lot of Sonic games that have not been too great, if at all, mostly the 3D ones. Still, most 3D Sonic games that are not so great are mostly average, including, but not limited to Sonic Forces, Sonic Lost World and Sonic Heroes. The only really bad games I can think of are the likes of Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. With that said, I do believe that Sonic Team and Sega have made some questionable decisions with the Sonic brand, but I can't help but feel that Sonic Team, the games and Sega, in some, yet a lot of aspects, still get a lot of unnecessary hate from people as there might be exaggeration in that hate, or at least dislike. In terms of exaggeration, it can be slight or even great to unrealistic degrees.
I understand that some people like some of those here don't want "mid" Sonic games, even though being "mid" is not exactly a bad thing. Still, it seems that in the past, Sonic fans, and by extension, non-Sonic fans (those who still play the games, but might listen to others like the critics, and maybe the critics themselves) seem to get on the cases of Sonic Team, Sega, or another developer involved in making a Sonic game for, sometimes, even the slightest mistake or bad thing. Plus, while the bashing of such people may be warranted; with criticism even being needed for them to improve the games with; sometimes, the criticism and even bashing is not necessary or even overblown. Now there might not be a way to measure people's opinions in any way, but I do think it can be easy to see the overblown parts of the criticism from fans and non-fans.
In fact, too many people listen to others without forming their own opinion or even without playing a game like a Sonic game; I think that such people based their opinions off not only others, but the overblown criticisms of the game, when those listening to others about games could have a different opinion altogether and might even like the game despite what others have said. Still, opinions vary from person to person, so there can be a lot of conflict about the quality of Sonic games. I do think, however, that how a game is made can be determined in plenty of ways, just viewed differently by different people. What might be something that is true about how any aspect of a Sonic game is made might not be seen that way by an individual. Still, I think Sonic games do get a lot of unnecessary hate or even criticism. The same could be said for any game, but I think with that, people can be, or even are hard on Sonic games to unrealistic levels, whether in terms of complete games or their aspects.
What about you all? What is your opinion on this? Do you think fans and non-fans of Sonic might be too hard on Sonic games, or have been in the past? Inverselydo you think the Mario games get too much praise? They are good but a bunch of them on 3DS weren't great IMO. -
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DeltaStarFox > 01-02-2024, 10:33 AM
I think critics are but fans aren't. General people who aren't fans are too critical as well. Now it does deserve criticism but I think the critics are too harsh. -
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MauEvig > 01-27-2024, 02:12 PM
To answer the OP, do Sonic games deserve criticism? Well, depends on the game. When the Sonic movies came out, it made me wonder if Sonic himself was better as a movie or cartoon character rather than a game character. But then, the classic games were a huge part of my childhood, along with the adventure series and they were great. I guess we all forgot about Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2. It had something for everyone. So there ARE good 3D Sonic games.
So, I really don't know. I think Sonic Colors was good too, though some of the levels are hard.
I don't think Unleashed was that bad honestly.
And I haven't played any of the story book ones.
Heroes was fun, I beat it with Team Rose and then I got stuck with Team Chaotix on the PC version. I need to revisit that one.
I vaguely remember playing Shadow the Hedgehog. I think I liked it, but that might be something to revisit later since it's been a long time and my memory's fuzzy on it.
I didn't like Lost World. I think the concepts are interesting, but the levels are confusing and hard to control.
I think if they took time to polish Sonic '06 it could have been a great game. But instead it completely flopped and it's completely unplayable IMO. It's no use.
The plot itself was kind of cliche, and after getting introduced to Blaze in Sonic Rush, I feel like her being in '06 downgraded her. She went from a strong, independent female character to Silver's sidekick. Now most people seem to want Silver WITH her any time she's mentioned, and she can't even stand on her own. At least, that's what it feels like. Now, no offense to Silver fans or people who like the Silvaze ship, more power to you, but it's not for me.
I didn't think Forces was that bad...I actually liked the music, graphics and gameplay. My complaint was the story and how Infinite was handled, which I found anti-climatic and the biggest downfall. I thought the custom character brought something new to the franchise and allowed for some creativity. Unfortunately though because it flopped, I don't think Sega will ever consider having a custom character in Sonic again, and I think that's a shame. I just feel like it had a lot of missed potential and opportunities.
Still need to play Frontiers, so IMO the jury's still out on that one. -
RE: Are fans and critics too hard on Sonic games?
Sonicfan059 > 01-27-2024, 03:17 PM
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hooligan > 01-27-2024, 11:05 PM
(01-27-2024, 03:17 PM)Sonicfan059 Wrote: @ but what is crazy is the adventure games got crazy good ratings on dreamcast but just a year/two later the games got terrible reviews on gamecube. I still never understood that one despite being poor ports that made the graphics worse, that shouldn't have effected the reviews that much.
there was an era on the internet that ppl suddenly disliked SADX and SA2B bcuz they only enjoyed "a third of the game" aka they only liked sonic and shadow's stages, ppl used that as an excuse to push the motion that "sonic games are supposed to be abt going fast" which has unfortunately has clouded ppl's opinions on the sonic series overall
ppl's opinions were also easily swayed around this point, game journalists easily caused some games to do poorly simply bcuz of their reviews even though their actual playing skill is less than the average gamer, thankfully it's much easier for the average consumer to form their own opinion and game journalists aren't as relied on for game opinions anymore since coverage for games is almost instant w/ the modern internet space
that's how I've seen it at least, I think ppl easily used sonic and it's games as a universal punching bag in the 2000s and the masses followed with the same attitude
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Blue Voltage > 01-30-2024, 06:16 AM
(01-27-2024, 11:05 PM)hooligan Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 03:17 PM)Sonicfan059 Wrote: @ but what is crazy is the adventure games got crazy good ratings on dreamcast but just a year/two later the games got terrible reviews on gamecube. I still never understood that one despite being poor ports that made the graphics worse, that shouldn't have effected the reviews that much.
there was an era on the internet that ppl suddenly disliked SADX and SA2B bcuz they only enjoyed "a third of the game" aka they only liked sonic and shadow's stages, ppl used that as an excuse to push the motion that "sonic games are supposed to be abt going fast" which has unfortunately has clouded ppl's opinions on the sonic series overall
ppl's opinions were also easily swayed around this point, game journalists easily caused some games to do poorly simply bcuz of their reviews even though their actual playing skill is less than the average gamer, thankfully it's much easier for the average consumer to form their own opinion and game journalists aren't as relied on for game opinions anymore since coverage for games is almost instant w/ the modern internet space
that's how I've seen it at least, I think ppl easily used sonic and it's games as a universal punching bag in the 2000s and the masses followed with the same attitude
I don't think the general public agreed with those critics though. At least not for sa2b. That was in the top 10 best selling GameCube games amongst Nintendo published titles which usually doesn't happen with 3rd party games. Even though it got poor reviews I only ever hear good things about it. -
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NeoMetallix > 01-31-2024, 11:01 AM
(01-27-2024, 11:05 PM)hooligan Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 03:17 PM)Sonicfan059 Wrote: @ but what is crazy is the adventure games got crazy good ratings on dreamcast but just a year/two later the games got terrible reviews on gamecube. I still never understood that one despite being poor ports that made the graphics worse, that shouldn't have effected the reviews that much.
there was an era on the internet that ppl suddenly disliked SADX and SA2B bcuz they only enjoyed "a third of the game" aka they only liked sonic and shadow's stages, ppl used that as an excuse to push the motion that "sonic games are supposed to be abt going fast" which has unfortunately has clouded ppl's opinions on the sonic series overall
ppl's opinions were also easily swayed around this point, game journalists easily caused some games to do poorly simply bcuz of their reviews even though their actual playing skill is less than the average gamer, thankfully it's much easier for the average consumer to form their own opinion and game journalists aren't as relied on for game opinions anymore since coverage for games is almost instant w/ the modern internet space
that's how I've seen it at least, I think ppl easily used sonic and it's games as a universal punching bag in the 2000s and the masses followed with the same attitude
That era pissed me off! Those games that were praised and loved by fans and critics suddenly were "never good"....
It even effected new games that were decent, just not great. -
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BDBGaming > 01-31-2024, 12:03 PM
SONIC GAMES ARE MORE THAN SPEED, MAN!
Although I DO prefer those stages...
Emerald finding was still fun tho too! -
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AgentNeon > 02-01-2024, 04:34 AM
I think it's crazy how the critics could have a different opinion. We all know that Sonic's dark age (2003-2008) was awful, but IGN doesn't seem to agree. They gave a good rating to Sonic and the Secret Rings despite being the trench of the dark age.
Running around as Sonic on the Wii is a more enjoyable hedgehog-themed experience than we have had in years. The game is blisteringly fast and only gets faster the better you play. The game's environments are surprisingly lively, with lots of action taking place on-screen at the same time.
The blue hedgehog stars in his best 3D game yet, Sonic and the Secret Rings.
Best of all though, [i]each is packed with minor details and character - sure, the Wii mightn't have the technical wizardy of its next-gen counterpart, but it's still enjoyable.[/i]
IGN, 2007, Sonic and the Secret Rings.
Another game that is rated incorrectly, is Sonic Unleashed with a 4.5.
Think of Sonic Unleashed like a mixed drink. The daytime levels are like good vodka. On its own, a refreshing beverage.
Not that I don't agree with them since they re-reviewed Unleashed last year.
