What Constitutes "Substantive Discussion"

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What Constitutes "Substantive Discussion"; A disscussion about discussion in the Cottage.
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Ludichaos	Jan 23 2014, 04:31 AM Post #1
[Outrealm Vagabond] Posts: 4,994 Group: C Rank Legend Member #11,272 Joined: July 25, 2010	Alright. So it's apparent that I have objections to Metallix's handling of "discussions" taking place within the =SB= Chat Cottage. I feel he's a little too heavy handed with the splitting of things that are chit chat into discussion worthy topics. This is a topic to discuss the issue about substantive discussions and what constitutes them. I generally feel a guideline like the following should be used when when doubt is brought into whether something is worthy of its own topic: - A 6-8 post buffer should be given when looking at a conversation. If it exceeds that and the one topic is still being talked about, then it's time to consider moving it along to an appropriate topic. I personally give about 10 posts leeway, myself. - The number of participants in the conversation should be considered. If it's just two people exchanging remarks or opinions on a subject casually, it's not topic worthy. The more people talking about it, the more likely it will hold its own as a separate topic. Four and above is a good number, and is about the only reason I'd ignore the first rule. - Post quality definitely needs to be considered. People going into detail about why they think what they think about a subject is substantive discussion. People making light comments or responding to a question about a subject is not. I generally feel if consistent paragraphs are being made about one subject, then it's probably a little too discussion-y for the Chat Cottage. Those are more or less the three rules I follow when determining what is and isn't a proper discussion and whether it should be split from the Cottage. If you get too gung-ho about related posts being "discussion worthy" and split them off into their own topic, you can screw up the flow of a conversation on rather flimsy reasoning. It breaks the organic flow of conversation that the Chat Cottage tends to have: one topic bleeds into the next as views are casually exchanged. You know, like in normal day to day discussion? Who sits around discussing one thing at length all day. Besides people who debate as a hobby. There, said my bit. Discuss.
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Fenroar	Jan 23 2014, 12:29 PM Post #2
Perfectionist Posts: 3,036 Group: E Rank Legend Member #9,478 Joined: November 2, 2008 Gender: Male 3DS Friend Code: 1504-6189-5960	I have nothing much to add really but what Ludi says basically. I can understand what Neo is trying to do, but just take it down a notch a bit. As Ludi said, idle chit chat regarding a small topic doesn't mean an all-out discussion the warrants its own topic.



Lord Pianta	Jan 23 2014, 04:02 PM Post #3
Il Piantissimo Posts: 3,320 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,741 Joined: February 7, 2009 Gender: Male Nintendo ID: Piantab	Sadly I missed what this exactly was about but have my 2 cents. Ludi has fair points. Conversation and discussion are two different things. Giving an opinion or asking a small question do not necessarily need their own topic for the sake of getting it out the Shack (Cottage?) because it's not chit-chat. If not, define the meaning of chit-chat. It feels like the Shack is being used - or trying to be, as a Facebook or a Twitter, just to update what's happening with you, which shouldn't be the case if you ask me.
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Ludichaos	Jan 23 2014, 10:58 PM Post #4
[Outrealm Vagabond] Posts: 4,994 Group: C Rank Legend Member #11,272 Joined: July 25, 2010	No one thing in particular. More an issue with the general attitude towards moderating conversations within there. You have a point though. If "chit chat" has another meaning it needs to be clearly defined. My understanding is that it's supposed to be used a bit like one would use an Instant Messenger to talk to their friends. Which is pretty much how I do use it.
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Neo Metallix	Jan 23 2014, 11:55 PM Post #5
~Doomsday Overlord~ Posts: 15,568 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: Doc_Of_D Game Currently Playing: Tales of Xillia	It wasn't substantial discussion however we have a thread for general game chit chat(http://sonicblast.org/topic/7378384/) and game discussion, however insignificant, I feel falls under the "If it can have its own thread, it should have its own thread." segment. This is a forum and using a topic meant for chit chat should be used for current events in your life. Most of what you do on an instant messenger is discuss what's going on in your life. Yes you do discuss topics of personal interest but that is where the similarities between that topic and and instant messenger end. I don't see what is so wrong with someone creating a topic for such discussion. I'll take it down a notch but people should really stop using the cottage as the only place they actually have discussions. Then again what does it really matter anymore anyway? No one really seems to care, so why should I?
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 24 2014, 10:26 AM Post #6
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	I agree with Neo Metallix in that "This is a forum and using a topic meant for chit chat should be used for current events in your life." That's what pretty much everyone does anyways. I only pop my head in every once in awhile, 99% of the time to drop a tidbit of something interesting that mostly has to do with myself. But from what I can tell everyone uses it to mention something... 50% of the time that something is something that they find interesting and the other 50% of the time that something is about themselves. And sometimes those two things are almost the same. For example, this is pretty much what the Shack consists of: Member #1: Hey I like this game. Member #2: I had pudding for lunch. I love pudding. Member #3: (Insert quote from Member #1) I like that game too, how long have you been playing it? Member #4: Hey (insert name here), waiting for you to reply to (insert RP name here). Member #5: (Insert quote from Member #4) I'm about to reply to (insert RP name here). Member #1: (Insert quote from Member #3) Oh I've been playing such and such game for awhile, what are your stats? Member #6: (Insert random pony picture). Member #7: I'm tired. word Member #8: Who ate my nachos? Etc. etc. etc... I think I've made my point. I've argued in the past that I don't really like the Shack... But whether I like it or not, I don't see any problem with how it is going, nor do I have a problem with its contents, (see my example above, I think it is fairly accurate). But a little bit more linear to this particular topic... Neo Metallix: I think Neo Metallix is a liiiittle bit strict with his whole topic discussion rules. I don't spend a whole lot of time in the Shack but it seems to me that every time a specific game/show/event/etc. is mentioned then you automatically want it turned into it's own topic, without waiting to see if it even goes anywhere. Ludi: And Ludi is waaayyy too loosey-goosey with his topic rules. 6-8 (or 10) post buffer? At least 4 people participating? Are you kidding me? Give me a break. Although sometimes topics in the Shack get a little out of hand, how often do they fit into your criteria? And no, that doesn't mean that you're right and Neo Metallix is wrong, that means that your rules need changing. There is a fairly large number of actual topics on this forum that have far less posts (meaningful or total) and less people participating in them. Are you going to start going into actual topics and saying "Hey there are only 4 buffer posts here and only 2 people participating, next time post this in the Shack"? If it can't go both ways, then you shouldn't expect it to work one way. Your 3rd little bullet point up there is also arguable but I'm not gonna go into it right now. And if you're waiting for every single discussion that pops up in the Shack to fit your ridiculous criteria, no new topics would ever be made. (Also, your job as a Moderator is to enforce the rules and guidelines set by Neo Metallix and the other people with the purple names, not undermine his rules by creating your own and setting your own leeway on your own guidelines. If he says he doesn't like the way something is supposedly going against his rules that he wrote then you don't go and disrespect him publicly, it just makes you look like an ass. If he wanted your help creating the rules he would've asked you and if he wanted your input on the rules I'm sure he would've asked you publicly, which is the only reason I could think for you shoving your 2 cents in publicly but as far as I can tell he didn't. You wanna do that, go make your own forum. No offense...please don't take offense by this but...Get off your high horse.)



Amarok	Jan 24 2014, 11:56 AM Post #7
Fear the cold... Posts: 1,571 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,292 Joined: July 31, 2010 Gender: Male Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 4639-9449-9700 Nintendo ID: EzekialWolffe Game Currently Playing: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword	Thank you ,Kittycakes, for saying all that I felt needed to be said. All there is to decide is some sort of midpoint between the two. I personally think that what constitutes as a valid discussion could be just a little bit more loose, maybe not as loose as Metallix would have it, but nowhere near as strict as Ludi would prefer.
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 24 2014, 12:59 PM Post #8
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	Well I appreciate that, but I would switch the terms to the other person. As in Neo Metallix is maybe being a little bit on the strict side by only allowing 1 or 2 posts on a certain subject before demanding that it be put into its own topic... And Ludi being too loose saying that a topic in the Shack should go as long as 10 posts--that's 9 entire, separate responses--and have 4 different members participating before it should be deemed it's own topic, (am I the only one who finds this sorta ridiculous? That's a lot of responses and people for each individual discussion, for each turn in the chatter, before it should have it's own topic). If I had to pick a side, like if I had to say someone was more on the money with their guidelines, I'd say Neo Metallix. I can't agree with Ludi because waiting for a particular discussion to garner that much attention and that many responses from that many people every time is sorta ridiculous. And who out of the staff team wants to spend that much time waiting around and paying so much attention to each discussion counting responses and people participating? I guess the staff members that spend a lot of time in the Shack: Ludi, Blaire, Pianta and Eevee. So I would suggest to Ludi making it his own personal job to count people's responses and the number of members contributing to each individual topic, since he has such a problem with it (Yes, I said this last sentence in my sarcastic voice). My point is, it's a lot easier to keep track of discussions amid the chatter when there aren't rows and rows of quotations and responses that take up pages. So a discussion in the Shack that takes up like 3 pages should definitely be it's own topic, fine, but by that time, before anyone has even said anything, the discussion value is spent and the participants don't want to talk about it anymore, much less take the time to start a whole new train of talk on it in it's own discussion. However, the discussions that are merely a few posts long get ignored because they aren't long or substantial enough for anyone to say "Hey make that it's own topic." My point being that length of discussion shouldn't really matter. There are plenty of times I go into the Shack and see even single posts that can maybe be their own topic, if not contribute to an existing topic. For example, when Ktim mentioned the book he was reading in the Shack today. Okay, that's great. No problem with trying to stimulate idle chatter in the Shack, but what is stopping you from also adding that to the specific topic we have about books and what our members are reading? From what I can tell, people don't often reply to those "What Are You Watching?", "What Are You Reading?", "What Are You Listening To?" topics. They just kinda add their own input and go about their days. That's where mentioning it in the Shack, and also, (not "instead of"), in the actual topic, can be beneficial. If you mention it in the Shack, people are more likely to reply about your book, because the Shack just gets more traffic. But it would also be beneficial to the forum overall if you also mention it in the actual "What Are You Reading" topic (or whatever it's called). That's just one example, (thank you to my boyfriend Ktim for unwittingly providing it for me), but people don't do this. They just add it to the Shack, ignore the existing topic or neglect to make a new one pertaining to the discussion if need be, and people like Ludi just let it slide because "not enough responses, hurr durr". EDIT: To put it simply, like Amarok said, "a midpoint". Edited by Breakfast Princess, Jan 24 2014, 01:55 PM.



Agent LacenMC	Jan 24 2014, 01:44 PM Post #9
I don't know where I'm going. Posts: 1,155 Group: =SB= Website Deputy Member #293 Joined: November 26, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: BenLacen Xbox Live Gamertag: LacenMC 3DS Friend Code: 232063738346	Everything you have mentioned was very well said, and your insight on the matter has persuaded me to defend Metallix. I appreciate and agree with you completely. I, along with many others, have never supported the idea of discussion thread that welcomes members to have casual chit chat. Sure, it's a great way to expand on an intimate atmosphere within this community, but the true problem is the neglect these topics offer on a message board. After observing the times and dates the Latest Settlers in each category where, it is very apparent that Cottage is the only thing people log in for. There are several topics that haven't been touched in days. The Fan Character Harbor hasn't seen any form of attention since December 31st, and that was one of the most popular sections of the forum at one point in time. I poked around the pages of the Cottage thread and saw a plethora of posts that were discussion-worthy. The single rule that was addressed by Metallix was to become aware when a certain topic has been addressed for too long. I'm almost positive he hoped that someone's observation of the topic at hand would drive them to create its own thread to get discussion going. The sad fact is that this forum is dying. KittyCakes There are plenty of times I go into the Shack and see even single posts that can maybe be their own topic, if not contribute to an existing topic. For example, when Ktim mentioned the book he was reading in the Shack today. Okay, that's great. No problem with trying to stimulate idle chatter in the Shack, but what is stopping you from also adding that to the specific topic we have about books and what our members are reading? From what I can tell, people don't often reply to those "What Are You Watching?", "What Are You Reading?", "What Are You Listening To?" topics. They just kinda add their own input and go about their days. That's where mentioning it in the Shack, and also, (not "instead of"), in the actual topic, can be beneficial. If you mention it in the Shack, people are more likely to reply about your book, because the Shack just gets more traffic. But it would also be beneficial to the forum overall if you also mention it in the actual "What Are You Reading" topic (or whatever it's called). This point justifies Metallix's intentions on bringing activity to all the categories of this forum. There is a substantial amount of traffic being directed to the Cottage. The use of it would be very a powerful tool to encourage members to create discussion, but instead has become =SB='s very own Twitter where they make quick posts to update their lives, and Instant Messenger to directly contact someone of interest to discuss whatever it is they feel the need to discuss. It no longer feels like a forum intended to bring discussion amongst the individuals that share mutual interest in the video games this board focuses on. I can't blame Ludichaos for feeling Metallix is too strict, but I also can't blame Metallix for being so strict. I'm almost positive the guy is frustrated at the dwindling numbers of active members and the primary focus current members have on this forum. Step into the dudes shoes for a bit. Neo Metallix I'll take it down a notch but people should really stop using the cottage as the only place they actually have discussions. Then again what does it really matter anymore anyway? No one really seems to care, so why should I? This is something he never says. He's been working hard on this board for 6 years. I'm sure he's pissed with the state of things. As Amarok and KittyCakes have said, there needs to be some sort of compromise. I don't agree with this topic being posted to call out a superior's rules, but what's done is done and everyone needs to get their shit together to figure out what to do now. Personally, I hate the chit chat crap, but it does offer a feeling of community. I suppose it is important and should be watched carefully. Have moderators enforce the rules, and encourage members to create topics that will spur conversation. Edited by LacenMC, Jan 24 2014, 01:45 PM.
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Cy-Fox	Jan 24 2014, 02:46 PM Post #10
We are still watching Posts: 3,486 Group: =SB= Kings Member #3,975 Joined: November 29, 2007 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Steam ID: cy-fox	Overspecialize and you breed in weakness. Motoko Kusanagi said that in the first Ghost in the Shell movie. Essentially the problem that we have here is that we have overspecialized in this one small section. Weighted in a lot of posts and the other segments barely get touched. The roots are saturated with floodwater but the rest of the tree just ain't getting anything because the roots have been snapped off from the rest of the infrastructure. It goes against my personal beliefs to really restrict the flow of conversation and information unless such conversation or info is illegal or of a very offensive nature. That's a fact, but this isn't about my personal beliefs. This is about what we have set before us as a structure to follow. That structure is that Neo or whomever he appoints as his interim lead has the run of the place. The rules are malleable towards how he wants things to run. It's our job at the administrator and moderator level to enforce these rules and policies whether by technical means or by action. Not just handing out Warns or something like that but in our own daily actions. It is within our right, no not just our right but our duty as members but especially as staff to give feedback, yes. Feedback is meant to be a process to provide assistance from one's own viewpoint. As long as that feedback is constructive and is devoid of malice. It's especially important for the one at the top to analyze that feedback, to see if it carries any weight. But it's their decision in the end to make new policy based on it. Like it or not, we're to enforce it. If we don't like it, well, the job is voluntary. As is membership here in this forum. It's a team effort between the people that post and the staff that manages the place. We didn't just make it from 2006 to today based off of one person's efforts, though there's a lot of framework by one. That's why this is a forum. A Sonic themed forum. We're supposed to discuss the hedgehog, the games and we're supposed to be doing all these awesome characters, stories and roleplays. What happened to that, eh? I know I don't have much room to talk making feeble motions at writing "Protocol Cy-Fox", but this place had action flowing through its veins a few years ago. It needs that same action if it's going to survive. So to summarize what I'm saying here: Metallix: Yeah, you were gone for a bit. It sucked but we got things figured out and on wheels until you came back. You're trying to readjust into the old routine and you're trying hard to whip things into shape. Bless ya. You're always going to have my steady hand to guide you. Administrators/Moderators: Nap time is over. We need to get serious about our roles and we need to get the team mechanic back in place. We need to get together on a regular basis, preferably on a real-time one along with Metal so that we can discuss the state of things and what should be done. Your feedback is as much necessary to keep things original, but we have to follow what Metal sets for us in the end. Members: Our little ducks. Without you, we wouldn't be where we are right now. We'd of been sitting in the wastelands of InvisionFree like many others from long ago. We love you for taking the time out of your days to visit us, to join us and to post with us. We're going to need your help though to right things. Your discussions, your ideas, your stories/art/characters/roleplays are the blood that keeps things alive. Broaden your horizons, explore things that you might not have earlier. Ask questions, give answers. Invite people to join us. Have a little faith as well. With all these units working together again, we're going to become a powerhouse. I feel it and I tend to be pretty accurate with my feelings. Let's dust off these chairs and get into action, folks. The entire forum needs us.



Breakfast Princess	Jan 24 2014, 02:52 PM Post #11
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	EDIT: And you know what has just occurred to me? It appears that this discussion has somewhat developed into one about the forum as a whole instead of just about the Shack. But I think anyone would be lying if they said that they didn't see that coming, because from what I can tell, every time the Shack is discussed, it turns into a debate about how the forum is failing. I just wanted to point this out before anyone else did. But anyways... Thank you, Lacen. I do appreciate that. Quote: Sure, it's a great way to expand on an intimate atmosphere within this community, but the true problem is the neglect these topics offer on a message board. After observing the times and dates the Latest Settlers in each category where, it is very apparent that Cottage is the only thing people log in for. There are several topics that haven't been touched in days. The Fan Character Harbor hasn't seen any form of attention since December 31st, and that was one of the most popular sections of the forum at one point in time. I poked around the pages of the Cottage thread and saw a plethora of posts that were discussion-worthy. This. This is the underlying problem. Something that people mainly ahem mods have been ignoring. Ignoring because they want the convenience of their precious Shack. Not a good enough reason to blatantly ignore the rules and let the forum die, yes, die. Glad someone agrees with me on that. And yes, the Shack is beneficial in that it creates and enforces a sense of community among our members. I'm all for that. But if that sense of community leads to something just short of a mutiny against the big boss man? Seems to me that the Shack is a privilege being abused and it wouldn't surprise me if the one in charge saw fit to take that privilege away... And would be completely justified in doing so. Especially if people, mods (ahem Ludi and Ktim) and senior members no less, were using that privilege (the Shack) as a medium to break his rules and gang up on him when he pops his head in and starts enforcing his own rules. (I don't care if you call him "Boss man" while doing it, it is still a sign of utmost disrespect to call out your superior for no valid reason like that in front of everyone. Are your PM buttons broken? Hey better yet, I know for a fact there's a hidden little private area for staff members to converse. Why don't you take the issue there? Or are you trying to impress somebody?) Metallix is probably thinking right about now "Why do I even have a mod team?" I mean look. He steps out for awhile and comes back to see his creation in borderline shambles, and his staff sitting around on couches in the Shack. So he starts enforcing his own rules (once again, why should he have to?) and then gets publicly chewed out by said staff team for doing it? For shame. Speaking of rules. Quote: The single rule that was addressed by Metallix was to become aware when a certain topic has been addressed for too long. I'm almost positive he hoped that someone's observation of the topic at hand would drive them to create its own thread to get discussion going. May I emphasize? Single rule. SINGLE rule. SINGLE RULE. Metallix has been lenient to the point of only assigning a single rule to the Shack, whereas nearly all other areas have several, and yet the mod team still can't enforce it? And members still can't follow it? Come on people. No wonder Metallix is getting frustrated. The sheer ratio of number of rules in the Shack (1) to number of mods always in the Shack (off the top of my head...5) does not equal the number of new topics being created out of discussions taking place in the Shack... i.e. does not equal the number of times the rule is being enforced. 1 rule of the Shack + 5 staff members always in the Shack = a huge debacle of the semantics of said rule? That is a messed up equation. Quote: If we don't like it, well, the job is voluntary. As is membership here in this forum. It's a team effort between the people that post and the staff that manages the place. Thank you! Just want to point this out and give it a little bit more emphasis. This point also goes along a bit with one I made earlier which was "If you want to make up your own rules, make your own forum". Cy, I like how you addressed everyone on every step of the ladder in your post. One of those groups of people will probably think that I've been specifically targeting them this whole time and I honestly don't care, they can think that. Because the way I see it is, we get a fair number of new members. If those new members see 90% of the mods and staff hanging out in the Shack all the time, what are they gonna do? And since activity isn't super super high lately, the staff make up what, fairly about 50% at least if not more of the current activity? And where is most of that activity? The Shack perhaps? I'm starting to see a pattern, hopefully others will start to see it too, or if they have already seen it, speak up. If we want to play Law of Averages, I got my game face on. So yeah, I'd say their rung of the ladder needs to be looked at, only fairly. Edited by Breakfast Princess, Jan 24 2014, 03:08 PM.



HollyYoshi	Jan 24 2014, 05:32 PM Post #12
I object to your claims Posts: 15,025 Group: =SB= Queens Member #9,640 Joined: January 9, 2009 Gender: Female Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 1891-1489-0768 Nintendo ID: Agent_Blaire Game Currently Playing: Yoshi's Island	Going back to the original question at hand, there are a couple things I haven't seen people mention; If there's a discussion in the cottage that could be it's own topic, I honestly don't think that the posts should always be split from the original topic, as that would just mess up the flow of things in the cottage. For that, I think making an entire new topic would be the best way to go in certain circumstances. Also, I believe that a topic that is frequently talked about over the course of several pages, even if there are other topics dispersed throughout, should have it's own topic. Now then; Quote: We're going to need your help though to right things. Your discussions, your ideas, your stories/art/characters/roleplays are the blood that keeps things alive. Broaden your horizons, explore things that you might not have earlier. Ask questions, give answers. Invite people to join us. Have a little faith as well. Okay, I fully admit that I myself haven't been getting into many discussions as would be good, nor have I been really starting a whole lot in the way of discussions, but at the same time, what Cy said has made me think of something that I've been wondering for quite a while. I see all these topics brought up in the Cottage. Some of these, yeah, I don't see what giving it's own topic would do. Others? I have to ask; How difficult is it to go into a different section, click the new topic button, and post a new topic that way? Don't think people are going to want to discuss it? Well, here's a nifty little saying; You won't know until you try. Maybe what could have been simple chit chat in that cottage could really turn into a damn good discussion if it was its own topic. So here's a suggestion from me; that game you find interesting and want to talk about? Make a topic for it. A book you are enjoying and want to see what other people think? Make a topic for it. Is there a particular hobby you've gotten into? Make a topic for it and see how many other people enjoy the same thing you do. I know it might seem futile, taking that first step and simply making the attempt could just be the push this place needs.



Breakfast Princess	Jan 24 2014, 06:39 PM Post #13
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	You know, that's real sweet of you to chime in and say this all when it becomes an issue. Really makes you out to be all nice and shiny, doesn't it. But here's a thought: Is there anything stopping you from going and actually doing it in the Shack? I suppose just as much as was stopping you from doing it before which was nothing. It shouldn't take a huge debate to get you and hell everyone to make this happen. But at least you finally got the push you needed. Quote: but at the same time, what Cy said has made me think of something that I've been wondering for quite a while. Also, how convenient. Edited by Breakfast Princess, Jan 24 2014, 06:42 PM.



Amarok	Jan 24 2014, 06:50 PM Post #14
Fear the cold... Posts: 1,571 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,292 Joined: July 31, 2010 Gender: Male Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 4639-9449-9700 Nintendo ID: EzekialWolffe Game Currently Playing: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword	Excuse me, but I have a question. When has anybody actually searched for other topics besides the Shack/Cottage?
	*The Original Characters* Ezekial, Alex, Zephyr, Neo, Pulse,Luna,Maya,Bob, Rose. Ezekial Wolffe This is just some super old artwork, worry not of it.


RabidChoco	Jan 24 2014, 07:01 PM Post #15
Sandopolis Act 2 Posts: 2,402 Group: S Rank Hero Member #6,608 Joined: March 11, 2008 Gender: Male Country: Belgium 3DS Friend Code: 1521-5016-9168 Steam ID: RabidChoco Game Currently Playing: Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth	There's little to discuss on the topic of Sonic unless and until Sega announces a new Sonic game; anything other than that... Well. I don't like a lot of the popular stuff, the exceptions I've come to too late to add anything to any discussions concerning them; most of what I -do- like is stuff nobody's heard about anyways, so making a topic about my own likes seems rather futile, unless I probe interest via the Shack/Cottage/WHATEVER. And by then it's mutated into a conversation or just completely ignored. (I'm sure many other folks see this as a familiar situation.) (Anyways, when I came on here in the first place, I did it looking for RPs, and I haven't seen any that catch my interest lately.) Edited by RabidChoco, Jan 24 2014, 07:08 PM.
	Indeed, there is nothing more repulsive than these monsters that defy nature and are known by the name of witcher, as they are the offspring of foul sorcery and witchcraft. They are unscrupulous scoundrels without conscience and virtue, veritable creatures from hell capable only of taking lives. They have no place amongst decent and honest folk.


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