~Welcome to the Sonic Blast Community Forum~
Greetings stranger, it is an honor to have you as a visitor. Since we opened in 2006 our goal has been to offer the most authentic Sonic-themed community on the web for Sonic enthusiasts new and old. We do our best to provide the most unique features, best Sonic-themed designs, and have the latest news; always improving to cover all of your Sonic needs. Our community is full of friendly people and we hope you enjoy your brief stay but would be thrilled if you decided to join in on the fun. Being a part of our community is easy, quick, and absolutely free.

Click here to join our community and enter the land of Mobius as a =SB= citizen!
Citizens may log in to their account to participate in our land's conversations and access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 3
North Korea: Opinions on What's Gonna Happen?
Topic Started: Feb 23 2013, 06:09 AM (476 Views)
BLOPS2
Member Avatar
Walkers, Walkers everywhere
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/19/17016501-north-korea-threatens-final-destruction-of-south-korea-in-un-debate?lite

In case you don't know what's going on here, they aired this a while ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FbmmsDYObU

Gonna dropkick it.
Offline Mini Profile
 
Replies:
Devy The Mutt
Member Avatar
'Ello, lad!
Tennessee Kid Cooper
Apr 4 2013, 07:49 PM
Well, personally, I'm ready for Fallout. -shot-

Get to the Vault? -stabbed-

Pip-Boy? -wounded-

Radiation-wise, that will definitely have a huge, negative impact on the planet, people, and everything in-between. Obviously.
I'm ready for Fallout!

But yeah, let's just face it, if NK decides to do this, it affects not just the US, but everybody, even them. Jeez, Kim Jong Unn is a dumb ass.
"The life I live will never be the same without you here..."
Offline Mini Profile
 
Naomi Kitsune
Member Avatar
Launch Base Act 2
who wants to start up the brotherhood of steel?
Spoiler: click to toggle

Posted ImagePosted Image

Friends: Kintu the Fox, Eileanach, Pianta, Trisha, Finite, Twilight the Fox (~CD~)
And all my SSZF Friends, I have not forgotten you
Offline Mini Profile
 
Lord Bowie
Member Avatar
What is the difference between a duck?

Nothing is going to happen because the regime knows they don't have what it takes to fight a full scale war, if they use their only threat.. nukes/biological weaponry (which are faulty and inaccurate at long ranges).. they will cease to exist.

Apparently there is some social unrest in the country as well because of the relatively young age of Kim Jong Un, lots of North Korean soldiers along the northern border with China are defecting because they are hungry, a vast majority of food and resources are channeled into Pyonhyang and along the DMZ with South Korea, North Korean soldiers are mostly surviving on mediocre potato crops and the like.

The sanctions are hitting North Korea and its military real hard, my guess is that they cave before this even gets close to being a war. I just hope it doesn't take a toll on the citizens who have little or nothing to do with the "war" lead up directly.
Saff Profile // Kam Profile // Sadistic Profile
Posted Image
Stop by my art thread ----------------------------------------------- SUPER DA PAGE
WARNING: Above Post May Contain Sarcastic/Harsh/Stupid/Offensive/Idiotic/Blasphemous Content. Deal With It.
______________
What's the difference between a champion and a challenger.. a challenger is trying to become, a champion became.
Offline Mini Profile
 
Breakfast Princess
Member Avatar
The most important meal of the day
Oh my gosh, thank you Bowie. I was seriously trying to stay out of this topic altogether because I knew it was just gonna be a bunch of people making a huge deal out of essentially nothing. I don't even have to repeat what you said, I'm just agreeing with it. There is no way this thing is going to turn into a war. I'm not even worried about it.
Posted Image
Offline Mini Profile
 
[Mika] Gumi
Member Avatar
Sandopolis Act 2
Bowie
Apr 4 2013, 08:17 PM
Nothing is going to happen because the regime knows they don't have what it takes to fight a full scale war, if they use their only threat.. nukes/biological weaponry (which are faulty and inaccurate at long ranges).. they will cease to exist.

Apparently there is some social unrest in the country as well because of the relatively young age of Kim Jong Un, lots of North Korean soldiers along the northern border with China are defecting because they are hungry, a vast majority of food and resources are channeled into Pyonhyang and along the DMZ with South Korea, North Korean soldiers are mostly surviving on mediocre potato crops and the like.

The sanctions are hitting North Korea and its military real hard, my guess is that they cave before this even gets close to being a war. I just hope it doesn't take a toll on the citizens who have little or nothing to do with the "war" lead up directly.
Yeah, that's another terrible consequence. If other countries hit North Korea with force, the citizens may suffer as well. They don't deserve that. = (
Posted Image

"I never felt truly alive unless I was staring death in the face."
-Solid Snake


~All Art Belongs to the VG Cats Comic by Scott Ramsoomair~
Offline Mini Profile
 
Devy The Mutt
Member Avatar
'Ello, lad!
Like I said, so-so. There are leaders that are stupid enough to cause some shit like this, just saying. We can't predict other people's actions, though so we would just have to wait. But Bowie, you have a very valid point.
"The life I live will never be the same without you here..."
Offline Mini Profile
 
BLOPS2
Member Avatar
Walkers, Walkers everywhere
North Korea is basically Scooby Doo with nukes. They have them, but they're too scared of what will happen if they use them.
Gonna dropkick it.
Offline Mini Profile
 
Amarok
Member Avatar
Fear the cold...
Shapeshiftress
Apr 4 2013, 07:15 PM
I agree with TUC. I don't think Russia would want to fight with us. I could be wrong, but...eh.

Does anyone consider the potential for nuclear fallout? Even if the middle itself doesn't strike, the fallout itself can spread radiation and kill over time. = (

So if it hits Texas or Los Angeles...I could be saying "adios" sooner than I hoped.

I suppose the size and strength of the missiles should be taken into consideration when analyzing the potential threat level.

Still...I have to wonder...would any of the other major superpowers back North Korea? I kind of doubt it, but the possibility remains...
Their tech doesn't even have the capability to reach america. It's all for show.
Posted Image

The Original Characters

Ezekial, Alex, Zephyr, Neo, Pulse,Luna,Maya,Bob, Rose.
Ezekial Wolffe

This is just some super old artwork, worry not of it.
Offline Mini Profile
 
[Mika] Gumi
Member Avatar
Sandopolis Act 2
Mightyena
Apr 5 2013, 01:30 PM
Shapeshiftress
Apr 4 2013, 07:15 PM
I agree with TUC. I don't think Russia would want to fight with us. I could be wrong, but...eh.

Does anyone consider the potential for nuclear fallout? Even if the middle itself doesn't strike, the fallout itself can spread radiation and kill over time. = (

So if it hits Texas or Los Angeles...I could be saying "adios" sooner than I hoped.

I suppose the size and strength of the missiles should be taken into consideration when analyzing the potential threat level.

Still...I have to wonder...would any of the other major superpowers back North Korea? I kind of doubt it, but the possibility remains...
Their tech doesn't even have the capability to reach america. It's all for show.
Well alrighty then. ^^;
Posted Image

"I never felt truly alive unless I was staring death in the face."
-Solid Snake


~All Art Belongs to the VG Cats Comic by Scott Ramsoomair~
Offline Mini Profile
 
Cy-FoxPosted Image
Member Avatar
We are still watching
Posted Image

North Korea knows all it takes is the wrong heading and we'll start excavating the Pyongyang City Pool and Parking Lot.

North Korea striking the mainland U.S with their nukes. Refer here to my reaction on such a possibility:
Posted Image
Offline Mini Profile
 
Katsuko
Member Avatar
Sandopolis Act 1
This guy sums up my concerns. The video is more apt, but the article hits the major points as well:

Quote:
 
Assuming he is not suicidal, Mr Kim will not consciously choose such a course. But he also faces a conundrum of his own making. Having started this crisis and stretched even his regime's repertoire of chilling threats, Mr Kim would lose face if he simply cancels the confrontation. He might decide that honour – and the credibility of future threats – demands an incident of some kind.

His eye could then settle on a South Korean island or warship. In 2010, the North torpedoed a South Korean naval vessel, killing 46 sailors, before bombarding an island with heavy artillery, claiming another four lives. South Korea, anxious to avoid escalation, chose not to retaliate.

Mr Kim may decide that repeating the trick is the best way out of his predicament. If so, he will hope that the South will stick to its policy of non-retaliation.

And that is where his gamble might fail. South Korea's previous government was criticised for its failure to respond to the attacks of 2010. President Park Geun-hye, the country's newly elected leader, has already promised not to follow that example.

"They don't really have the option of heroic restraint this time round," said Hugh Chalmers from the Royal United Services Institute. "There would be a response. The question is how they grade their response to avoid further escalation."

Yet an escalation could happen anyway. Any retaliation by the South might lead Mr Kim, an untested and perhaps hot-headed leader, to launch a bigger counter-strike of his own.


Further, I think the idea that we would summarily crush North Korea and that all would be right and well is a bit misguided. NK can do substantial damage to US troops in SK and Japan, and even when we did inevitably win the war, the geopolitical situation in the Pacific rim would be something of a catastrophe. I see Chinese-American relations in shambles, probably accompanied by expanded militarism and arms production in that great rival. And, of course, rebuilding a united Korea or a new North Korean regime would be a nightmare in its own right, especially while the US is stretched thin across its prior entanglements in the Middle East.

I dunno. I don't think anything awful is going to happen, but I'm not nearly so blithely confident as many in this thread.
Edited by Katsuko, Apr 7 2013, 04:22 PM.
Posted Image
<3 All you need is love <3
Offline Mini Profile
 
VlaDDrakkeN
Member Avatar
The Jester
Cy-Fox v1.0
Apr 6 2013, 12:53 PM
North Korea knows all it takes is the wrong heading and we'll start excavating the Pyongyang City Pool and Parking Lot.

North Korea striking the mainland U.S with their nukes. Refer here to my reaction on such a possibility:
Yeah that sums it up for me. I mean I know the best thing to do in this situation would not be to underestimate your opponent but...come on.

Id be amazed if a nuke succeeds in getting in the air without killing themselves in the process.

Personally I'm beginning to think NK is full of itself, and now the next few years is going to be the US doing what it usually does in this situation with countries that don't go along with our way of thinking.

Hope and change indeed. :|
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
===================================================================================
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Offline Mini Profile
 
Katsuko
Member Avatar
Sandopolis Act 1
Another excellent article on the topic

I think this excerpt is especially relevant:

Quote:
 
5) The aggravation of fault lines in U.S.-Chinese relations. Every time North Korea does something wrong, there is an inevitable outcry that China should solve this problem for us. The logic is, as the North's closest political and economic ally, Beijing has more influence with Pyongyang than anyone else. China, however, is right in claiming that its influence is limited, not only because the North Koreans are adept at resisting pressure from all comers, but also because Beijing has its own national interests. China's top priority has been to avoid instability on its borders--not the U.S. prime objective of denuclearization of the North--and that means making sure North Korea stays solvent in order to avoid collapse and the emergence of a unified Korea aligned with the U.S. on its doorstep.

If Pyongyang's arsenal continues to grow and China does not join in efforts to stop it, chances are this problem will aggravate fault lines already appearing between Beijing and Washington on a whole raft of issues in Asia and elsewhere. The split between the two will deepen, as will the divide between China and South Korea and Japan, who remain the target of threats by Pyongyang. That will create more tensions in a vital region already beset by a host of other problems.

Edited by Katsuko, Apr 17 2013, 01:05 PM.
Posted Image
<3 All you need is love <3
Offline Mini Profile
 
Smashmaster
Member Avatar
Carnival Night Act 1
If North Korea's leader had any sense he'd take a look at Japan and remember not to "wake the sleeping giant." (no offense to the Japanese I think they are cool and am sorry for what happened between them and us during WWII)

Launching any kind of overt or even covert attack against the US would be doing the exact opposite of the advice given in latin on the Hogwart's crest; "Never tickle a sleeping dragon." Not that I think 'short stuff' reads Harry Potter...

But sersiously the leader of North Korea is acting just like Bucky from the get Fuzzy comic strip.

If NK attacked SK instead of us, would we back them with our current leadership? Would Austrailia? Japan? (as I recall our treaty didn't give them much military force, but they could finance SK.)

And who would back NK? Would China? Would anyone?
Posted Image
I will find you...and I will have you post in an RP...

Offline Mini Profile
 
Lord Bowie
Member Avatar
What is the difference between a duck?

Smashmaster
Apr 17 2013, 01:28 PM
If North Korea's leader had any sense he'd take a look at Japan and remember not to "wake the sleeping giant." (no offense to the Japanese I think they are cool and am sorry for what happened between them and us during WWII)

...

If NK attacked SK instead of us, would we back them with our current leadership? Would Austrailia? Japan? (as I recall our treaty didn't give them much military force, but they could finance SK.)
(Off topic Rant in 3...2...1) If anyone should be sorry for what happened there it should have been Hirohito and the Japanese military.

The nukes arguably saved more lives than the alternate option.. a full scale land invasion of Japan would have been devastating for both sides, beyond what anyone could imagine, it would have been worse than Europe.

And remember, we only dropped two bombs because they didn't surrender after the first and thought we were bluffing when we said we had more.

No one on an individual level for either nation needs to be sorry for what happened, it sucks, everyone wishes it was avoidable, but it was the only realistic option and any realist is happy that history didn't choose plan B.

------

What, specifically, is that bolded line supposed to mean?
Saff Profile // Kam Profile // Sadistic Profile
Posted Image
Stop by my art thread ----------------------------------------------- SUPER DA PAGE
WARNING: Above Post May Contain Sarcastic/Harsh/Stupid/Offensive/Idiotic/Blasphemous Content. Deal With It.
______________
What's the difference between a champion and a challenger.. a challenger is trying to become, a champion became.
Offline Mini Profile
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Act I: Chit-Chat Hangout · Next Topic »
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 3