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| Zamau | Mar 30 2013, 03:00 AM Post #1 |
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There were six at first, then seven. They are an incredible source of power. Three hedgehog’s Sonic, Shadow and Sliver. Can use the power of seven chaos emeralds, and turn super. Dr Eggman and other enemies can use them for their schemes. They were created for a reason, but what is the true purpose of the chaos emeralds? And what could be the origin of them. |
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Mar 30 2013, 06:44 AM Post #2 |
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That's a topic that you'll probably get several different responses for. Obviously, the Emeralds have a lot of energy to them, that's probably why Robotnik sought them so much. I kinda play to this trope while drafting my Immortality Protocol Cy-Fox series. In there, I portray them as being at first seated in a shrine on Floating Island before a Kingdom of Acorn expedition discovered and removed them. Which was a pretty Bad Idea but at the same time also kinda good. Bad because the Master Emerald reacted by displacing them in space (and possibly time), tugging the airship that had them through with it. Good because their discovery and later research made it possible for humans to travel to my version of Mobius by creating a wormhole that bridged the huge astronomical gap between the Sol system and the star system that Mobius is in. Physicists state that to artificially create such a construct, you need pretty much an inexhaustible source of energy and solar radiation doesn't come close, even if you had cells being constantly exposed to it. And what comes with absolute power? The lust for it. Possibly even the ability to warp space, time and matter itself. We should be thankful that Sonic is a benevolent and heroic character who understands the responsibilities associated with having such things in his hands. Fares a whole lot better than Gollum with the Ring. |
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| YamiShadow | Mar 30 2013, 07:12 AM Post #3 |
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I believe that the canonical answer to this is located somewhere in the backstory to Sonic Adventure, or in the expanding of this lore in Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, or possibly in Sonic Unleashed's explanation of how they're tied to the seven Gaia temples after some fashion. It can be inferred that the power of the Chaos Emeralds is some sort of an extension of the power of Dark and Light Gaia, which result approximately in the equivalent of the chaotic and good energies within the Emeralds that was referred to at the end of Sonic Adventure. Chaos isn't technically a god, but rather simply a chao that came into contact with the power of the Chaos Emeralds, through touching the Master Emerald which holds power over the Chaos Emeralds. If the ending of Sonic Adventure is anything to go by, this means Chaos aligned himself with the more chaotic energies of the Chaos Emeralds, which is perhaps an extension of Dark Gaia's energy. Shadow is also aligned to the energy of Dark Gaia, which is why he could use the Chaos Emeralds along with Sonic. Why I think this is the case is because the extended lore of Shadow's backstory suggests that Gerald experimented with information regarding Chaos, which initially resulted in the Artificial Chaos on the ARK, and later became a segment of the experiments which resulted in the BioHazard and Shadow. But, I suppose that's more of a "How do they work?" than a "What is their origin?" answer. xD; I'll just do my best to work out their history as far as I know it, for lack of a direct answer. I'm not certain of what their origin is, but Unleashed suggest that it's tied to Dark and Light Gaia. They (somehow; perhaps because of the chao, who worship the Master Emerald? The chao seem to be among the oldest species in Sonic's universe) moved from the Gaia temples to Angel Island, where the Master Emerald resides. After this, a chao came into direct contact with the Master Emerald, and became Chaos, whom the Knuckles Tribe worshiped as the God of Destruction. The Master Emerald seems to hold power over the Chaos Emeralds, and thus by extension the powers of Dark and Light Gaia, so it's possible that their origins are actually tied to the Master Emerald. It's hard to say for sure, but one can speculate. After this, the Knuckles Tribe tried to take the Chaos Emeralds, but ultimately were wiped out by Chaos. As far as my knowledge goes, the Chaos Emeralds were scattered after this. About fifty years before the 'present' in the Sonic Universe, apparently G.U.N. or the government came into possession of the Chaos Emeralds, and agreed to give them to Professor Gerald for research purposes. Gerald sought assistance from Black Doom and promised to eventually give the Chaos Emeralds to him in exchange, but ultimately built the Eclipse Cannon and planned on betraying Black Doom with it. Some time before this he came into possession of the Gizoid and 'fed' him the Chaos Emeralds, which resulted in the Gizoid going crazy and destroying a good chunk of the space colony. It's possible that this is why Gerald made a deal with Black Doom, in an effort to finish the next step of Project Shadow sooner (creating an immortal being, immune to all diseases, which would double as a weapon for the government; the next step would be extracting some of his DNA to try to cure Maria of her sickness), both for the sake of wishing to save Maria and for the simple fact that Project Shadow was likely the only thing capable of stopping the Gizoid. After this... It's possible to infer that the G.U.N. came back into possession of the Chaos Emeralds, after the massacre on the ARK. How they fell out of their possession for the events of the Sonic series eludes me, but I suppose Eggman could be responsible for it. After all, the Chaos Emeralds are a ludicrously useful power source. I'm sure he wouldn't pass up the opportunity to gain access to that, and he almost definitely had access to information about them, considering the fact that he has access to a good chunk of his grandfather's research. |
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HollyYoshi
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Mar 30 2013, 07:19 AM Post #4 |
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If you want my honest opinion, they should not go into the origin of the Chaos Emeralds. At the very least, not in great detail. Part of what makes them such interesting items is the unknown surrounding them. Where did they come from? How do they have all that energy and is it really as infinite as we are lead to believe? Who created them and for what purpose? There are so many questions that can be asked about these seven gems but I feel that too many answers would just ruin the mysterious factor. By the way, does anyone think that the reason there were six emeralds in Sonic 1 instead of seven was because Eggman had already gotten his hands on one? That's always been something in my headcanon. xD |
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| Zamau | Mar 30 2013, 07:55 AM Post #5 |
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That seems possible. That Eggman could of had the seventh emerald already. But he must of lost it at some point before Sonic 2. But I think Eggman seemed more interested in the Emeralds, during Sonic & Knuckles since he took the Master Emerald from the Hidden Palace Zone. Also I wonder why is it only Sonic, Shadow and Silver that could turn super. Tails and Knuckles could turn super too. Although that was because of the super emeralds. Edited by Zamau, Mar 30 2013, 08:31 AM.
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Mar 30 2013, 08:30 AM Post #6 |
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I wonder if the reason Tails is unable to use the Chaos Emeralds to turn Super has something to do with age. As in, he's too young to tap into their power. On the contrary, the Super Emeralds have a higher power reserve, and thus allow him an easy way to tap into their power. Don't know the deal with Knuckles though. |
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| Lady BlizShadow | Mar 30 2013, 08:52 AM Post #7 |
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The Japanese manuals for the classics have this to say about the Chaos Emeralds: They deal energy to all living things. In a scientific manner, they can be used for progression in nuclear and laser-based technologies. They are probably buried somewhere under South Island which accounts for its movement. (S1) A great civilization long ago used the Chaos Emeralds for prosperity and advancing their cause, but when they tried to misuse them, their wealth vanished overnight. After that, they say the gods sealed the stones away. (S2) Angel Island was once apart of the main continent and home to a prospering civilization. However, a group of dark-minded Elders tried to steal the stone's energy, which wiped them out immediately and caused the land to separate. After time passed, a sky god descended to bring the island and stones to the sky. (S3) If I had to hazard a guess from any of this, it would be that the Chaos Emeralds are of divine intervention instrumental in the creation and maintainence of life on Earth, and the planet itself going by Light Gaia relying on their power to clean up Dark Gaia's mess. Their ability to be used by the inhabitants, Sonic Adventure's concept of a positive and negative energy, and numerous legends about wishes being granted when you collect them all, suggests that they definitely intended for them to be used in any way seen fit by the collector, regardless of the consequences that would result. If destruction became rampant, then the Gods would essentially reset them somewhere else and possibly introduced the Master Emerald as a way to give Earth some more semblance of control over them. Special Stages are potentially another control device, although logic would dictate they would be a late-game edition in the God's plans. |
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Mar 30 2013, 09:10 AM Post #8 |
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 Explains how we're able to get laser weapons by early 1999. xD |
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| JCat | Mar 30 2013, 01:07 PM Post #9 |
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You know it's quiet possible that there were 6 emeralds in Sonic 1 because he just didn't get the 7th one. But there are a few things. Because In some games manuels (older games) it talks almost as if there are more than just 1 set of emeralds. But in the Adventure era onward they go back to just being 7 emeralds. As for why Tails and Knuckles don't go super anymore. Well Tails could only go super with the super emeralds. (or atleast that's only when he went super.) so no super emeralds, no Super Tails. Knuckles actually can go super with the Chaos Emeralds. This is shown in Sonic 3. because if he gets all 7 chaos emeralds he can go super. And he goes Hyper with the Super Emeralds as well. But once again the more obvious reason is that perhaps he just hasn't gone super because he just hasn't. As in he still can just hasn't gone super. It's possible he just leave the Super fights to Sonic. |
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Mar 30 2013, 02:46 PM Post #10 |
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So, I just thought about something. At the end of Sonic Adventure 1, Chaos absorbed the power of the Chaos Emeralds - but only their negative energy. Sonic was still able to use the positive energy of the emeralds to turn into Super Sonic. In Unleashed, their power is absorbed yet again - and as evidenced by the fact that Sonic has all seven emeralds from the very beginning but only goes Super twice the whole game, pretty much all their power is gone until they get restored by the temples. What I want to know is, what absorbed their power this time? Was Eggman's machine at the beginning really that powerful that it could siphon the energy out of the Chaos Emeralds? Or was Dark Gaia somehow responsible? |
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| Zamau | Apr 6 2013, 04:26 AM Post #11 |
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Speaking of Chaos the creature. How much negative energy do the chaos emeralds have? Because he used the power of the emeralds before. And I'm guessing he used the negative energy in past, as he did in Sonic Adventure. Although the emeralds on the pillars surrounding the master emeralds were big, probably the super emeralds. |
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| YamiShadow | Apr 6 2013, 06:08 AM Post #12 |
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@Blaire: If I recall correctly, Eggman's device was indeed capable of siphoning the energy of the Chaos Emeralds. It wasn't powerful enough to cause all the damage that it did, although Eggman was hoping for something to the effect of what he accomplished if on a bit smaller of a scale. I'm pretty sure the game suggests that it worked better than it should have because Dark Gaia started drawing in the energy of the Chaos Emeralds and forced more of it through the siphon than it should have. It also had a negative impact on Sonic because of how much of a pull Dark Gaia gave. @Zamau: The Chaos Emeralds are referred to as an infinite power source in Sonic Adventure, if I recall correctly, so I suppose it's fair to say that in theory they would never run out of power. Chaos, due to his contact with the Master Emerald, has full and complete control over the Chaos Emeralds. At least, the chaotic energy of the Chaos Emeralds. And, as the Master Emerald is capable of pacifying the power of the Chaos Emeralds, it's also possible that it's capable of siphoning it in a sense. So Chaos effectively transferred the infinite supply of chaotic energy into himself when he wiped out the Knuckles Tribe, then he was forced to put it back by the Master Emerald, when Tikal sealed Chaos and herself within it. Later he absorbed the chaotic energies again, and Sonic used the equally powerful good energies to physically bash it all out of him piece by piece. It's possible to conclude that when it left Chaos, it returned to the Chaos Emeralds, considering how Dark Gaia could later draw upon these same energies in Sonic Unleashed. |
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HollyYoshi
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Apr 8 2013, 06:01 PM Post #13 |
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Ah, I see now. Yes, that makes sense. So, I remember this one line by Tails in Sonic Adventure 2; 'The Chaos Emeralds are like magnets. They have the power to attract each other." I've always wondered just how that was possible. Or how they do it in the first place.. |
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| Shadow The Hedgehog | Apr 18 2013, 12:08 PM Post #14 |
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Most likely to hold order and chaos in the universe, because peace cannot exist if there is no war. Hence the emeralds were created to neutralize the two. Therefore, always being evil and good. |
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| Lord Talancir D'Landior | Apr 22 2013, 12:13 PM Post #15 |
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I prefer to look at the three - The Chaos Emeralds, in conjunction with Dark and Light Gaia - as three separate phases in a cosmic wheel of sorts: As described in Sonic Unleashed, Light Gaia is responsible for creation, and Dark Gaia is responsible for destruction. With this dynamic, I see the Chaos Emeralds as a physical representation of pure chaos. We could then see a series of events: Dark Gaia destroys the planet, creating chaos. Light Gaia reforms the planet, creating order from chaos. Chaos, being power, then represents the untapped power of the universe; being supposedly infinite in scope, Chaos essentially endless possibility in the form of energy. One could begin to construct a creation myth around the three: Creation begins with Chaos, which is power [of the universe] of vast, endless possibility and constantly swirling with change. Light Gaia brings stability and stasis to chaos, imposing form and pattern on this universe of energy. Dark Gaia is entropy embodied, breaking down creation and returning form and pattern back to chaos. In this way, Dark Gaia is the restorer of balance, which ensures that neither Chaos or Stasis is out of balance. |
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