Trouble with a girl

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Trouble with a girl
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 17 2013, 06:11 PM (1,000 Views)
BLOPS2	Jan 21 2013, 11:40 AM Post #46
Walkers, Walkers everywhere Posts: 258 Group: B Rank Guardian Member #13,213 Joined: August 21, 2012 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Xbox Live Gamertag: RedCommander98 Steam ID: Kotor9803 Game Currently Playing: Blockland	Eh, true. But as said, I'm just experimenting right now, but if she does come around for whatever reason, should I still be there?
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[Mika] Gumi	Jan 21 2013, 11:48 AM Post #47
Sandopolis Act 2 Posts: 2,338 Group: S Rank Hero Member #13,165 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender: Female Game Currently Playing: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag	I don't think so. It just doesn't seem like it'd be a sincere relationship; and then it'd probably be worse for you, in the end.
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BLOPS2	Jan 21 2013, 11:49 AM Post #48
Walkers, Walkers everywhere Posts: 258 Group: B Rank Guardian Member #13,213 Joined: August 21, 2012 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Xbox Live Gamertag: RedCommander98 Steam ID: Kotor9803 Game Currently Playing: Blockland	You have a valid point, it seems...
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 21 2013, 06:37 PM Post #49
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	Shapeshiftress Jan 21 2013, 11:48 AM I don't think so. It just doesn't seem like it'd be a sincere relationship; and then it'd probably be worse for you, in the end. ... They're fourteen it's not gonna be a sincere relationship no matter what. lol just slow down and take your time, you'll have plenty of time for dating later.



Jace Beleren	Jan 22 2013, 01:37 AM Post #50
Marble Garden Act 1 Posts: 143 Group: B Rank Adventurer Member #13,328 Joined: November 28, 2012 Gender: Male Playstation Network ID: EPIC_TUN Xbox Live Gamertag: TheUltimateNavi Steam ID: theimmortaldarkness	Pai Chan Jan 21 2013, 06:37 PM Shapeshiftress Jan 21 2013, 11:48 AM I don't think so. It just doesn't seem like it'd be a sincere relationship; and then it'd probably be worse for you, in the end. ... They're fourteen it's not gonna be a sincere relationship no matter what. lol just slow down and take your time, you'll have plenty of time for dating later. I met my first girlfriend at 15 and we dated for three years. Best relationship I ever had. Wouldn't trade the early years for anything. You're generalizing all 14 year olds. That is the worst thing in the world to do. Because there is ALWAYS a loophole somewhere. An outcast. Different. Unique. Whatever you want to call it. Dating is on a maturity level, not age. I have always been mature ever since I was a kid. It was the way I was raised. Aside from all the banter, I agree with Shapeshiftress. I've been in shallow relationships before and it... Well, once you've been in love, a relationship like that is more depressing than a great many things. Then again, maybe if she grows up, she'll be worth going for again. But right now, yeah. No.
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 22 2013, 06:34 AM Post #51
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	I'm pretty sure that nearly everyone would agree to assume that MOST 14-year-olds are not emotionally or even mentally developed enough to sustain a healthy, stable, sincere relationship. In fact, most teenagers aren't. That's why teenage relationships don't last that long. The proof is in the pudding. So don't go getting his hopes up that he'll have a phenomenal 3-year relationship at his age just cus you did! That's not fair.



YamiShadow	Jan 22 2013, 09:10 AM Post #52
Flying Battery Act 1 Posts: 918 Group: C Rank Hero Member #12,994 Joined: May 25, 2012 Gender: Male Country: Canada Game Currently Playing: Final Fantasy X HD	Pai Chan Jan 22 2013, 06:34 AM I'm pretty sure that nearly everyone would agree to assume that MOST 14-year-olds are not emotionally or even mentally developed enough to sustain a healthy, stable, sincere relationship. In fact, most teenagers aren't. That's why teenage relationships don't last that long. The proof is in the pudding. So don't go getting his hopes up that he'll have a phenomenal 3-year relationship at his age just cus you did! That's not fair. Still, I wouldn't take that opinion too far. I momentarily held it stoically, and had intended to never enter a relationship until my mid-twenties. I'm extremely relieved to say I didn't keep that rule. (Granted, I'm eighteen, so this says nothing 'directly' about fourteen year olds. But, it stands against your words regarding most teenagers. I do nothing insincerely, and healthy and stable are things which I strive for as a constant as well.) Fourteen is probably too young for most, but Withering Entity is proof enough for me that we shouldn't make some sort of a rule of it. As he said, it's a matter of maturity, which is the single word version of being emotionally and mentally developed enough. Not all fourteen year olds are, but that doesn't necessarily mean none are. In this particular case, regarding Endevous and the person he's interested in, I think you're right. But, making a general rule out of it isn't correct, as I see it.
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 22 2013, 10:05 AM Post #53
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	18 is not a teenager. 18 is an adult. That does not count. And yes, there should be a rule out of it that states that MOST young teenagers cannot hold meaningful and sincere relationships. They don't have the means to. It's not like they can even spend enough time together to have a meaningful relationship. It's really fact, here. You seem to think that I said ALL teenagers cannot hold sincere serious relationships but that's not what I said. I said most can't, and I'm pretttyyy sure that's true. And by pretty sure, I actually mean absolutely sure. I mean just look at it. You're in the 8th grade, maybe the 9th grade. Mommy and Daddy still giving you rides to school. You're still IN school. You don't have any money to go on a date or get each other gifts. It's not like you can spend alone time together. And you barely understand your own feelings, let alone be able to share them with someone else or even have any real feelings towards another human being. That's just how teenagers are. Young people aren't supposed to be looking for actual meaningful relationships that are gonna last. Those who do are 9 times outta 10 gonna be sincerely disappointed. This is a time for practice. Find out who you are through a series of short-term dating companions. Find out your type, your preferences, and what you should look for in an actual meaningful, long-lasting, adult relationship... when you become an ADULT. Not now. That's rushing things. Just because you know one or two young kids who have had successful relationships doesn't mean every child (yes, CHILD) should go looking for the same thing. That's just... not right. OP, I hope you at least uderstand what I'm saying and if you see any sense in it you should take it to heart. Edited by Breakfast Princess, Jan 22 2013, 10:10 AM.



YamiShadow	Jan 22 2013, 10:09 AM Post #54
Flying Battery Act 1 Posts: 918 Group: C Rank Hero Member #12,994 Joined: May 25, 2012 Gender: Male Country: Canada Game Currently Playing: Final Fantasy X HD	Pai Chan Jan 22 2013, 10:05 AM 18 is not a teenager. 18 is an adult. That does not count. And yes, there should be a rule out of it that states that MOST young teenagers cannot hold meaningful and sincere relationships. They don't have the means to. It's not like they can even spend enough time together to have a meaningful relationship. It's really fact, here. Anything under twenty and over twelve is a teenager in my mind. Perhaps I'm of legal age to be considered an adult, but I'm young enough still that I don't think it a fair argument to say I'm an adult while a seventeen year old isn't. Nineteen, perhaps, is a blurring line, but eighteen is still most certainly a teenager to my eyes. 'Most', perhaps, aren't able to. But to make any sort of rule is to prohibit the few who are. ... So I guess we're arguing over the word 'rule'. xD I agree that most probably can't. I acknowledge that some can. We're bickering over the word 'rule', haha.
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 22 2013, 10:12 AM Post #55
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	YamiShadow Jan 22 2013, 10:09 AM Pai Chan Jan 22 2013, 10:05 AM 18 is not a teenager. 18 is an adult. That does not count. And yes, there should be a rule out of it that states that MOST young teenagers cannot hold meaningful and sincere relationships. They don't have the means to. It's not like they can even spend enough time together to have a meaningful relationship. It's really fact, here. Anything under twenty and over twelve is a teenager in my mind. Perhaps I'm of legal age to be considered an adult, but I'm young enough still that I don't think it a fair argument to say I'm an adult while a seventeen year old isn't. Nineteen, perhaps, is a blurring line, but eighteen is still most certainly a teenager to my eyes. 'Most', perhaps, aren't able to. But to make any sort of rule is to prohibit the few who are. ... So I guess we're arguing over the word 'rule'. xD I agree that most probably can't. I acknowledge that some can. We're bickering over the word 'rule', haha. I'm not arguing with you, I started giving my advice but you wanted to try and disprove it because you know one maybe two people that had successful relationships when they were young which truthfully doesn't mean jack diddly when you look at it in the larger scale when most young people's relationships fail because of all the reasons and more that I listed in the editted part of my previous post. p.s. I editted my post. Edited by Breakfast Princess, Jan 22 2013, 10:13 AM.



YamiShadow	Jan 22 2013, 10:23 AM Post #56
Flying Battery Act 1 Posts: 918 Group: C Rank Hero Member #12,994 Joined: May 25, 2012 Gender: Male Country: Canada Game Currently Playing: Final Fantasy X HD	Pai Chan Jan 22 2013, 10:12 AM YamiShadow Jan 22 2013, 10:09 AM Pai Chan Jan 22 2013, 10:05 AM 18 is not a teenager. 18 is an adult. That does not count. And yes, there should be a rule out of it that states that MOST young teenagers cannot hold meaningful and sincere relationships. They don't have the means to. It's not like they can even spend enough time together to have a meaningful relationship. It's really fact, here. Anything under twenty and over twelve is a teenager in my mind. Perhaps I'm of legal age to be considered an adult, but I'm young enough still that I don't think it a fair argument to say I'm an adult while a seventeen year old isn't. Nineteen, perhaps, is a blurring line, but eighteen is still most certainly a teenager to my eyes. 'Most', perhaps, aren't able to. But to make any sort of rule is to prohibit the few who are. ... So I guess we're arguing over the word 'rule'. xD I agree that most probably can't. I acknowledge that some can. We're bickering over the word 'rule', haha. I'm not arguing with you, I started giving my advice but you wanted to try and disprove it because you know one maybe two people that had successful relationships when they were young which truthfully doesn't mean jack diddly when you look at it in the larger scale when most young people's relationships fail because of all the reasons and more that I listed in the editted part of my previous post. p.s. I editted my post. Oh no, I understand. xD It was the statement "In fact, most teenagers aren't." that I was particularly looking at. That's what drew my attention. I think it fair to say that any sixteen or older are more likely to be able to, perhaps seventeen in some cases. But yes, on a larger scale, perhaps you are correct. I guess I'm just trying to poke optimism back into this, somewhat. I'm usually quite a realist, but this was starting to have a bit too pessimistic of an outlook even for me. But, maybe I've just seen more young relationships turn out well, haha. My aunt and uncle on my dad's side started dating at fourteen, and are still together and happy in their late thirties. In a town I previously lived in, I basically watched two young relationships play out just as well. I'm sure more failed than succeeded, but these things have sort of set my optimism on young relationships pretty high. Fourteen is perhaps too young for most, which I agree with. In the particular case being regarded in this thread, it most certainly is. But, it isn't 'always' the case, as you have acknowledged. But yes, I agree with what you've said on looking for relationships. I agree with most of what you've said here. I'm just slightly more optimistic on the matter, that's all.
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 22 2013, 10:28 AM Post #57
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	You see, the funny thing is... I'm not being pessimistic. I'm being REALISTIC. And, omigosh check this out, there's a huge difference. Bottomline of what I'm trying to say: If you're 14 and looking for a meaningful, sincere, long-lasting relationship, you're gonna have a bad time. There are maybe a few exceptions. I'd venture to say maybe 2 in 20. 2 in 50, maybe. But walk into your nearest middle school and see how many kids are holding hands then flash forward a few years and see how many of those children are still together. Lemme know the results of this experiment.



Jace Beleren	Jan 22 2013, 10:29 AM Post #58
Marble Garden Act 1 Posts: 143 Group: B Rank Adventurer Member #13,328 Joined: November 28, 2012 Gender: Male Playstation Network ID: EPIC_TUN Xbox Live Gamertag: TheUltimateNavi Steam ID: theimmortaldarkness	Pai Chan Jan 22 2013, 10:05 AM And you barely understand your own feelings, let alone be able to share them with someone else or even have any real feelings towards another human being. That's just how teenagers are. What is this I don't even. This is going to be my last post in this topic for the sheer idiocy of it all. Not to mention how far the topic has strayed. But I'm going to say this. Saying that a teenager can't feel emotion towards another human is like saying they're devoid of life. And yes, that's what you said. Feelings = emotion. I absolutely cannot stand the people that think like this. It's always a matter of prejudgement based on certain prerequisites that may not even matter. Endveous, I wish you luck on your future endeavors in life and love and hope you can find a successful relationship like I did, and learn to appreciate just how special it really is as quickly as I did. /presence
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YamiShadow	Jan 22 2013, 10:32 AM Post #59
Flying Battery Act 1 Posts: 918 Group: C Rank Hero Member #12,994 Joined: May 25, 2012 Gender: Male Country: Canada Game Currently Playing: Final Fantasy X HD	Agreed completely. I'm thinking about this realistically too, and I see exactly what you mean. Where I'm suggesting pessimism or optimism is in the fact that I'm focusing on that 2 in 20 (or 50) which turn out well, while you seem to be focusing on the more profound 18 or 48. I'm just hoping for the best, haha. Edit: Missed what WE has just pointed out. I agree with him, when this is taken literally, but I think I know what you were really trying to get at, and I see your point. Edited by YamiShadow, Jan 22 2013, 10:34 AM.
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Breakfast Princess	Jan 22 2013, 11:38 AM Post #60
The most important meal of the day Posts: 1,763 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,251 Joined: July 20, 2010 Gender: Female Country: Brazil Xbox Live Gamertag: AngelSpartaness 3DS Friend Code: 061945741822 Nintendo ID: AngelSpartaness Game Currently Playing: Kameo: Elements of Power	When I said "feelings towards another human being" I OBVIOUSLY meant feelings of love or romance... OBVIOUSLY, seeing as this is what this topic is about. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough but like I said, since this topic is about those particular feelings, I thought it'd be quite clear and quite easy to figure out that that is what I meant. I do sincerely apologize that I didn't not make that clear enough. Next time I will type out exactly what I mean, so no one gets confused on what I'm talking about. Obviously teenagers can have feelings for friends and family. But any feelings of love are probably not real or not going to last. Edited by Breakfast Princess, Jan 22 2013, 11:39 AM.



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