Sonic Storylines and Endings

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Sonic Storylines and Endings; A what if topic...
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SuperShadowgal	Aug 2 2012, 04:29 PM Post #1
The Female Ultimate Life Form! Posts: 3,112 Group: E Rank Legend Member #59 Joined: April 29, 2006	I think many of us can agree that sometimes the Sonic game story lines don't fit to a tee, leaving plot holes, confusion, and wtf moments in their wake. Perhaps you diligently played through one of the games, only to find the ending to be a letdown. Perhaps you found a prototype of a game to have an interesting storyline and wanted that to be finished product instead. Perhaps you are a lore junkie and find glaring gaps from one game to the next. Or maybe perhaps you were left confused when a story was retconned in the next installment. Would you have wanted to make a change to one of these 'problems'? So, my fellow =SB= members, if you had the ability to go back and change a storyline, ending, character, or whatever what would you change and why? This discussion is intended for the games.
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HollyYoshi	Aug 2 2012, 04:49 PM Post #2
I object to your claims Posts: 15,025 Group: =SB= Queens Member #9,640 Joined: January 9, 2009 Gender: Female Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 1891-1489-0768 Nintendo ID: Agent_Blaire Game Currently Playing: Yoshi's Island	If there's one thing I really would like to change, it's the whole scene in Colors where Tails is hit by the mind control way. The way it just ran out of energy and turned him back to normal seemed like a big cop-out to me. I would have loved to see Tails remain under control for a good portion of the game as a secondary antagonist, if only to see how it would affect him and Sonic - the latter feeling guilt over not being able to save his best friend and the former (once he finally did snap out of it, obviously following at least one fight of sorts) feeling ashamed that he couldn't control his actions would have been a very interesting element.



YamiShadow	Aug 2 2012, 05:26 PM Post #3
Flying Battery Act 1 Posts: 918 Group: C Rank Hero Member #12,994 Joined: May 25, 2012 Gender: Male Country: Canada Game Currently Playing: Final Fantasy X HD	To be honest, in an ideal world, what I would do if I had control of the Sonic storyline is mark the entire plot after SA2 as non-canon, and then build up from there. Of course, SA and SA2 do have some weaker plot moments in themselves, but I consider them to be among the strongest of the series in terms of storyline. Not that the games after SA2 are bad in themselves, it's just that for storyline I felt things were beginning to lost it from Heroes onward. But, if I were to take this topic a bit less ambitiously, I suppose the one moment I would changes is actually from SA2. xD Near the end of the game, Sonic is rocketed off into space and assumed dead (more so in the dark story than the hero story, but he is assumed dead in both by the characters); I won't say too much about this in detail, on the really low chance that it might turn out to be spoilers for someone. But, before he's rocketed away, he passes on the baton, so to speak, of heroism to Tails. Tails' reaction to all this drama, and its instigator Dr. Eggman, was rather lacklustre. To put it simply, he went on for a moment about growing up and doing things for himself, right after Sonic 'dies' in front of him; and to make matters worse, he all ready went through the same development in SA1, and the two games are linked enough that I kind of would have expected a bit more from the canon. Really, if I could change it, I would make Tails get pissed at Eggman, rather than make a monologue which basically says he didn't quite understand the character development he went through in SA1, and is just barely on the verge of comprehending it now.
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SXR123	Aug 3 2012, 11:06 AM Post #4
Blue streak, Speeds by... SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!! Posts: 5,101 Group: C Rank Legend Member #9,446 Joined: October 22, 2008	I agree with Yami, the games after SA2 seemed to take a drastic turn away from the characters themselves. After adventure everyone began to slowly change Sonic became less of cocky hero and more of "if we stick together we can do ANYTHING! YAAY!" kind of guy. Shadow went from an Hero/villain to well... one of sonic's friends. He's not focused on, barely makes an appearance anymore and his attitude seems to have changed. Even eggman, who went from a threatening diabolical villain who wanted to conquer the world with the eggman became a villain who wanted to... build a theme park... He became more of a laugh at villain than the one in SA2 where he nearly killed sonic.
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BonBon Fairy	Aug 3 2012, 02:32 PM Post #5
Hydrocity Act 1 Posts: 81 Group: C Rank Adventurer Member #12,762 Joined: February 12, 2012	if I was in charge I would get rid of the plot holes and make storylines that could include more characters and bring back beloved characters like Fang, mmighty, Bark, Hone9y the Cat, Flicky, and Lumina.
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Tammy	Aug 3 2012, 04:20 PM Post #6
Lava Reef Act 1 Posts: 2,605 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,015 Joined: May 29, 2009	I am Sonic what is continuity. I personally like to think that each game sets itself in its own little alternate universe, with some nods towards earlier games but ultimately following its own personal canon. And to be honest, I think looking at it this way makes the nods seem a lot more special.



YamiShadow	Aug 3 2012, 04:59 PM Post #7
Flying Battery Act 1 Posts: 918 Group: C Rank Hero Member #12,994 Joined: May 25, 2012 Gender: Male Country: Canada Game Currently Playing: Final Fantasy X HD	X Th Aug 3 2012, 11:06 AM I agree with Yami, the games after SA2 seemed to take a drastic turn away from the characters themselves. After adventure everyone began to slowly change Sonic became less of cocky hero and more of "if we stick together we can do ANYTHING! YAAY!" kind of guy. Shadow went from an Hero/villain to well... one of sonic's friends. He's not focused on, barely makes an appearance anymore and his attitude seems to have changed. Even eggman, who went from a threatening diabolical villain who wanted to conquer the world with the eggman became a villain who wanted to... build a theme park... He became more of a laugh at villain than the one in SA2 where he nearly killed sonic. That pretty much sums it up. xD But to be fair, Sonic is portrayed pretty nicely in Sonic Colours and Sonic Generations. Plus, Eggman has always been after making a Themepark. xD Sure, he's more diabolical in some of the games, but that's really what it boils down to. Of course, in SA, and Sonic Unleashed, it's sort of implied that his themepark is some sort of an evil dystopia designed to serve him. And in SA2, he was ambitious enough that he was trying to build an empire. Also, @Stocking, I honestly never really thought of it that way. I'm a fan of continuity so I favour the idea of a running plot, but that's actually pretty cool. And, it makes a lot of stuff work nicely, with what feels like less plot issues, too.
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Tammy	Aug 3 2012, 05:01 PM Post #8
Lava Reef Act 1 Posts: 2,605 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,015 Joined: May 29, 2009	To be completely honest I pulled that philosophy straight out of my ass. \|D; But I think I'll roll with it from now on. Each game having its own universe where some things from previous games happened, and some didn't. (i.e. Moon blowing up in SA2 only happened in SA2's universe) And each character has a slightly different personality between universes. Kinda ups my respect a bit for a lot of games from that perspective, really.



SXR123	Aug 3 2012, 05:22 PM Post #9
Blue streak, Speeds by... SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!! Posts: 5,101 Group: C Rank Legend Member #9,446 Joined: October 22, 2008	I still wish current sonic games would take up more of a story instead of just levels and a short cut scene GOING to the next level. I wish there was more interaction between characters, a little something to keep people interested in what happens next instead of what they've been recently. Sonic's friends are in trouble/capture Sonic is mad. he goes to find out the problem he races through a bunch of random places finds monster/eggman beats monster/eggman the day is saved. yaaaaaay
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Tammy	Aug 3 2012, 05:29 PM Post #10
Lava Reef Act 1 Posts: 2,605 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,015 Joined: May 29, 2009	Even tho' that's pretty much what it's always been. :V But yeah it'd be cool if places and events were more tied together, but then again this very topic is pretty much about the fact that Sonic was never very big on plot.



SXR123	Aug 3 2012, 05:32 PM Post #11
Blue streak, Speeds by... SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!! Posts: 5,101 Group: C Rank Legend Member #9,446 Joined: October 22, 2008	Maybe if instead of sonic team writing the script they asked the people who write the archie version of him? I've recently been reading a lot of them and though the stories don't make you scratch your head and make you think they do make you wanna know what happens next. The stories were suspenseful, they had a little darkness to them and were still able to keep sonic's attitude, as well as all the other characters. The games nowadays took a much lighter turn and to be honest none of the characters seem like themselves.
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Tammy	Aug 3 2012, 05:37 PM Post #12
Lava Reef Act 1 Posts: 2,605 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,015 Joined: May 29, 2009	I'm still stuck on the logic of getting writers who are known for dead baby comedies to write a kids game.



SXR123	Aug 3 2012, 05:46 PM Post #13
Blue streak, Speeds by... SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!! Posts: 5,101 Group: C Rank Legend Member #9,446 Joined: October 22, 2008	wait wha? dead baby comedies? o_o
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Tammy	Aug 3 2012, 05:47 PM Post #14
Lava Reef Act 1 Posts: 2,605 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,015 Joined: May 29, 2009	Uh yeah. The dudes who write the script for the games from Colors onwards are the ones who did Mad World and Happy Tree Friends. I'm honestly waiting for Sonic to trip over on a badnik, poke his eye out and go into a panic that ultimately kills everyone else in gruesome coincidence.



Darros	Aug 3 2012, 05:48 PM Post #15
Angel Island Act 2 Posts: 65 Group: D Rank Adventurer Member #12,640 Joined: December 18, 2011	Sonic 06 wins worst plot award, it needs an overhaul, mainly because of the ending. Because a game that ERASES ITSELF is not a good game. Not to mention the ending makes no sense. How is Elise still the Princess, and if Solaris never existed wouldn't pretty much every character be changed? And what happened to Silver? All we see if Sonic (did he remember somehow) run by Elise, who feels a "famaliar" presence.



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