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| Dubbmatic | Jul 11 2012, 12:14 PM Post #1 |
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I just feel the need to say, I really miss the old feel and magic that Sonic Blast used to carry years back. These days, in all honestly, the forum has become quite boring and repetitive, at times a bit too rule uptight too. Maybe just growing up caused my perception to change, but really I think the forum has lost a lot of the magic it once carried. For the first couple years, it was so fun to watch Sonic Blast just take form. The amount of active members had been a bit smaller in number, but were very on top of keeping posts flowing and discussion was very fun. There wasn't much in terms of problems caused by bad members, as I don't think we really had any, and it was just so laid back. Metallix used to be on virtually daily interacting a ton, sadly I know he's become very busy in life, but it was fun to have him bouncing about with all of us. And I remember he and I would brainstorm on things we could do to help better the forum. I was only about 15 at the time so there wasn't too much I was capable of helping with, but I did what I could, such as adding the Cheats/Mods section we once had. I tried to collect television show links from Youtube and organize them into topics as to have a sort of forum media library, little silly things that in retrospect were fairly pointless. But then again, isn't everything on forums? Nothing we do on here is out of a need, it's all supposed to be just for fun, all the projects we take on are for amusement more so than anything. Though I just feel like a lot of that silly random and needless things and just all the fun of it all, it's almost just dried up. And what little does remain ran off into Casino Park mostly in The Shack. Just wanted to share my thoughts. |
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| Brick Mage | Jul 12 2012, 05:04 PM Post #16 |
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EVERYBODY REMAIN CALM I think we need more creative output around here really. Creativity used to be the cornerstone of our "newbie community". But why aren't the middle-schoolers these days as inspired as they used to be? You all know what I'm talking about. I'd be doing my part, but I'm a lazy bastard. (That, and Maelic isn't even a hedgehog anymore) |
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| Dubbmatic | Jul 12 2012, 05:16 PM Post #17 |
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So my evidence in saying that the forum isn't too active compared to years ago, that the overall productivity and such has declined on a large scale, how discussions are seldom, and how the mass of the posts made centralize around Casino Park and the Shack, all of this is based only on the fact that I'm the 2nd member, is that what you're telling me you've picked up from my words? Ummm wow...... I don't know why I bother. I ONLY MENTIONED THE 2ND MEMBER LONGEVITY TO ADD CONTEXT FOR REFERENCING BACK AS FAR AS I DID! SHEESH! My argument does not CENTRALIZE on my being the 2nd member in an old account. I have made a lot of comparisons from past to present and thus part of my argument does depend on my time here, but it's not where I'm getting my validity. And you're sitting here saying I don't take things seriously. Why not give it a closer read next time before making accusations there eh? And to further support my claims with evidence, and argue back your point that my being inactive as of recent give me no real grounds to stand on. Well in a normal circumstance that would hold true. But there are two things you're missing. For one, I talk to people on here who are active almost daily, and were the ones who made me aware of the issue that I addressed. And for two, THE EVIDENCE IS BLOODY SAVED ON THE FORUM! The posts don't vanish after a week, I can easily go back and look at what has gone on day in and day out, and that too is evidence enough to support my claims. |
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| Juice | Jul 12 2012, 05:33 PM Post #18 |
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Oh my god, how many topics have I seen that are exactly like this. It looks like enough people agree that other parts of the forum should get more attention, great. Now what are you going to do about it? If you want that change so bad make the first move by posting in other topics that aren't in the Casino Park. Also Dubb, no offense but you have 173 posts, which means one of three things. 1. You're a hypocrite because you only ever post in the Casino Park, causing a lack of actual posts. 2. You just lurk, which means you're doing nothing to fix the issue. 3. You've been off the forum for a long time so you haven't actually seen it grow up like you claim. |
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| Wallace | Jul 12 2012, 05:34 PM Post #19 |
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Fine, you want me to point out the things wrong with the last post before I said I was done? Alright. So you're saying that you have some mystical authority because you're the second member. You're saying that it's your longevity here that makes you hold any more authority than me. Or am I getting the wrong idea? If so, care to more carefully rephrase that? You're the one who's saying we should value discussion. What's discussion when those who partake in it are nonchalant in their argument? You're being critical about the trend, yes. You're comparing how it is now to how it was when you first joined and in other eras, yes. You're saying that it was better then, yes. You're saying that by your conventions and definitions, the forum is essentially shit. The more I read what you have to say, the more I think you're not a long-standing member but an outside critic. If you truly dislike the direction it's gone, and you truly think it can't be reversed, then I see no other alternative that is in your best interest but to leave. No point complaining about it. You don't seem to think it's fine. Why do you think that this change is not in a positive direction? The people here are happy with what they've got and acknowledge that it's not likely to get better. By what standard is the "new" =SB= worse than the "old"? You're not pointing fingers? But you've certainly made clear exactly what it is that you think is wrong, which again makes me think that you have a very distinct idea for a solution that is VERY improbable and generally harmful to the board rather than helpful. That, and you say, "but that's all history anyway, a few years old or more." If it was all history, you wouldn't be complaining about how it's not like you want it to be, like how it used to be. The way the board USED to be is history, too. Again, you're saying that the olden days were infinitely better and that the new members (such as myself; may I point out that it may be considered offensive if you call someone detrimental to beneficial progress, especially when you call almost everyone in general detrimental to beneficial progress?) are not going to make things like they used to be. It's called change, and if you really want something done about this problem you've made up in your head, it will be change merely for the sake of change, as nothing is wrong. You obviously don't see what happens on a decently regular basis in the Station Square. We quite often hold discussions over important things in the world, and become quite enthusiastic and bothered about it. You don't have to FORCE people to start discussion: they'll do it on their own as it pleases them. If they find there is nothing worth discussing, they will go about their merry lives of fun and laughter. |
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| Katsuko | Jul 12 2012, 05:42 PM Post #20 |
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But it isn't mandatory. People voluntarily spend all their time in the spam forum because the rest of the content on the board isn't interesting to them. So post something interesting if you want other parts of the board to get attention. -- As for Dubb and Luka, What does Dubb's seniority have to do with the state at SB? What does Luka's debate style have to do with it? You're both derailing the thread with irrelevant personal points. Since this will amount to nothing but a locked thread if you don't get on topic and try to approach discussion with your egos and feelings left firmly at the door, you really should drop the head-butting. Edited by Katsuko, Jul 12 2012, 09:13 PM.
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| Wallace | Jul 12 2012, 05:45 PM Post #21 |
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The point I'm making with this is that he seems to think it makes his argument more valid that he's the second member. I think actually discussing the topic at hand is impossible if you have someone who claims they're right by default of some mystical authority. |
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| Katsuko | Jul 12 2012, 05:49 PM Post #22 |
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He isn't claiming that he has God-like authority, he's claiming that his long presence at SB gives him some insight into the way things have changed. And he's right. Things have changed a lot since 2007 and before, and those of us who have been active through that know that, and it makes us kind of sad. But he's not touting it as some sort of super-argument; you're making it that way by being over-invested in an argument and over-sensitive to perceived slights. The only way discussions like this work is if the participants are willing to adopt thick skin and get over people's personal annoying habits, keeping the thread on topic and away from personal back and forth. Edited by Katsuko, Jul 12 2012, 05:54 PM.
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| Dubbmatic | Jul 12 2012, 05:53 PM Post #23 |
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I was about to reply to what you said previous to this, but then you went and said this bit again. Which in my eyes just... voids your previous argument because it makes the ever so clear point that you haven't a clue what I've been trying to say.... Despite my making it clear that I NEVER USED THAT AS EVIDENCE TO MY POINTS! Just context to my knowledge of previous years, that's as far as it goes. The reason I said to learn your place is for RUDELY calling me out on bringing it up as if I was mocking you with it or something of that sort. Really, it's a matter of respect, and you clearly lack it, but that's whatever to me really I suppose. Also, in regards to you finding one of the things I said to be offensive, how I said the mindset of new members insures that we'll never again see the glory days, well frankly I'm not bothered that you're offended. I'm once again stating a fact that holds true, and what you're arguing just backs up my point further. A lot of things people say can be taken as offensive, doesn't mean they should never be said, it simply means people should not let themselves be so easily offended. It's one thing if I took a personal shot at you out of the blue, but it's a whole different ball game when I point out some evidence to back my previously made point. |
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| Katsuko | Jul 12 2012, 05:54 PM Post #24 |
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Stop shouting -_- Please, for God's sake, stop shouting. Edited by Katsuko, Jul 12 2012, 05:55 PM.
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| Dubbmatic | Jul 12 2012, 05:57 PM Post #25 |
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I'm very glad you understand what I'm saying here. Thank you for helping to give reason for things. And I do want to keep the topic on point, in a way it's still a bit on point, but I'm not too keen on sitting back as I'm bashed for pointing out something that kinda bums me out. I did want this to generate discussion, and I figured there would be a few who would come in and have a few debate words to throw, and that is all fine and dandy, but indeed the arguing is getting rather out of hand, a lot of accusations to boot as well. But thank you for trying to maintain some peace and order through this, and for understanding the points I've worked to make, it is very appreciated. |
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| SuperShadowgal | Jul 12 2012, 06:43 PM Post #26 |
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I would think the next step for us after at least admitting there is a bit of inactivity would be to find a way to direct more interest back into other areas of the forum then. And that's perhaps just it, what would interest people enough to get some posting going on? As of recent it does feel - to me - that Casino Park overshadows the rest of the forum. Off tangent very slightly, but I do admit, I could be more active. I haven't really been in recent months. And the few topics within the last month or so I made were apparently not very appealing. With the one I just started the other day still in its infancy. Perhaps my reservations in tandem with feelings that the forum seems inactive and that I'm afraid no one will post are just too silly and an overall contributor to the problem. I don't feel like I'm all that great at making interesting topics/points sometimes. Slightly more on topic though, as far as the Sonic forums go. What then would spark some interest perhaps? Would anyone want to see the Comic discussion come back? I don't think we've had any talk about a good chunk of the recent Sonic comic issues. Would theories perhaps be something the would spur some interest? Speaking only from my experience, my death of Sally Acorn post had no replies, albeit I think we're more game/canon oriented than comic/tv storylines. I know the forums been around for a long time, so we beat topics into pulp, but could alternate universe/what-if topics be appealing enough? Would a community project bring some magic back or another type of thing, special events, that sort of thing? Would a "front page/SB newspaper spark interest"? I don't know if we have a main page anymore, but somewhere where there could be a daily or weekly round-up with posts that are interesting, news about new members, and news about sonic related stuff, all with links to said forum posts. |
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| Katsuko | Jul 12 2012, 07:35 PM Post #27 |
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Nyeh, it's hit and miss for everyone. S'like fishing--you just keep casting until you get a bite :3
All definite possibilities ^^ We'll never know until we try. Still, the core community here... Well, it's just kind of old. Is it possible a lot of the active members have simply grown out of their interest in sonic?
As someone who's organized a lot of "community project" type things, I think they're a bad idea. There's a lot of organizational and administrative work that goes into them, and that work tends to drown effort into real content. Individual members spontaneously creating interesting topics and fun activities > bureaucracies formally organizing "fun events" :P Still, if you want to create an SB frontpage or some similar activity, and you're willing to run it, I think it would be great ^^ I'd be happy to participate. Edited by Katsuko, Jul 12 2012, 07:40 PM.
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| Kammy | Jul 13 2012, 02:11 PM Post #28 |
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I joined back in '08, and the place was extremely lively. There were new posts being made everywhere, I couldn't keep up. Now, just, nothing happens anymore. Most of the fun, contributing members have left, grown up and moved on with their lives. It's gotten to the point where most, if not nearly all, of the activity takes place in Casino Park. Even then.. Things aren't even lulzy anymore, I mean the Shack has its moments, but that's all. A lot of the mods don't even come on that often anymore. |
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| Devy The Mutt | Jul 13 2012, 04:51 PM Post #29 |
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Yeah, I've noticed that Blaire is the most active mod nowadays. Miracle used to be on a lot, but now she's barely visible. For admins, Bliz is pretty much keeping things stable. Bowie is on sometimes, but not on that much. For Metallix, he's almost never on. He's been on here recently, though. And really, there is never any exciting ideas for the forum so Metallix doesn't really have anything to create or update. It's not disappointing, but it's kind of sad. I don't know, I might actually suggest an idea when I come up with one. I think I'm going to brainstorm for a little bit. See if it's possible to make this forum at least 10% more exciting. Shit has gone downhill since before I even registered. |
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| Katsuko | Jul 13 2012, 06:18 PM Post #30 |
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