=SB= Tournament OOC Chat

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=SB= Tournament OOC Chat; Starting fresh
Tweet Topic Started: May 26 2012, 07:58 AM (2,118 Views)
Wallace	May 26 2012, 01:27 PM Post #16
Break out the L-word. The other L-word. Posts: 1,889 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,873 Joined: February 24, 2011	Now, I know you're probably not to keen on trying to make the Graveyard work, DF, but if we can figure out a fair enough system for it, it would resolve that number problem. We'd let Fen go against Zeke, and then using whatever method we decide upon to select someone from the Graveyard to reenter the tournament, we'd add one more member for round two. Now, we could leave the Graveyard at that, seeing as it permanently corrects the number issue. I think if we did the Graveyard for more rounds than that, it would upset the balance again. So essentially, we could just use the Graveyard as a way to add in new members if we lose one and it becomes uneven. That is, of course, assuming we don't get a last-minute sign up. Edited by Wallace, May 26 2012, 01:34 PM.
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Lord DragonFlame	May 26 2012, 01:57 PM Post #17
Christmas is back again Posts: 17,411 Group: Former Monarchs Member #348 Joined: December 9, 2006 Gender: Male Steam ID: Warzak85DF	Chaos TH May 26 2012, 01:19 PM Huh... you're right in the fact that Fen vs. Zeke would lead to the second round's bracket being uneven. You'd wind up with 7 rather than 8 that way. So I guess you could add another member (assuming someone else wants to join) to make it 8, though that means someone gets through to the second round without even trying. Hm... what to do. Well, I've got no real suggestions on the matter. Suppose I'm still in the tourney though. May as well see things through until I'm knocked out. \|P I'm not too fussed about prizes at the end personally. I was never in this for them. Just fun mostly. I guess bragging rights are good enough (pfft. As if I'll ever beat Tal or Blaire). \|P That's the exactly opposite Chaos. We receive 8 winners if Courage Wolf decide he wishes to give Fen a second chance. If not. Fen's out, no more discussions I'm afraid. But I'm done discussing this. Perhaps I'm not seeing it in the right perspective, but quite frankly that's the only chance of revival in my book. Leaving the rodder to Bliz during the rest of this weekend however. Edited, due I think were your getting at me. Fen and Courage Wolf will fight like if it's supposed to be their 1st match. Simple as that. Fen has to prove him self to get into the 2nd round. Hopefully that clarifying things better. Edited by DragonFlame, May 26 2012, 01:58 PM.
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Wallace	May 26 2012, 02:05 PM Post #18
Break out the L-word. The other L-word. Posts: 1,889 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,873 Joined: February 24, 2011	Oh, you're right, that does work. I've never been all that great at maths. >_>
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Ludichaos	May 26 2012, 02:16 PM Post #19
[Outrealm Vagabond] Posts: 4,994 Group: C Rank Legend Member #11,272 Joined: July 25, 2010	... oh yeah. For some reason I didn't factor Kale into it when I was thinking about it. xD It's too early for me to be doing maths.
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Lady Miracle	May 26 2012, 02:23 PM Post #20
[insert something cheerful here] Posts: 8,037 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,289 Joined: August 20, 2008	Chaos TH May 26 2012, 01:19 PM I'm not too fussed about prizes at the end personally. I was never in this for them. Just fun mostly. I guess bragging rights are good enough (pfft. As if I'll ever beat Tal or Blaire). \|P This right here. I had already mentioned it in the original OOC Chat actually- can't really be bothered to care about the prizes. Bragging rights are more than enough.
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Lady BlizShadow	May 27 2012, 07:16 AM Post #21
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Well, DF told me to handle things over the weekend, so here I am. I'm seeing a lot of confusion about the current bracket here, to the point that I'm even messed up on some things. Let me see if I understand it now: If we were not to have any rematches to determine who could re-enter the tournament from the dead, we would have eight contestants and could continue normally. However, if Fen decides to have a Graveyard rematch against someone, that naturally means 1) two people will fight, thus leaving the guaranteed bracket at six and 2) With only one winner returning, the ultimate bracket will be at seven, not eight, prompting us to have to gather up another member. (The way I imagined his thing is that dead fighters only fight dead fighters, thus the winner would return and leave the currently 8-person bracket at 9. Either way, it's uneven.) Well, I'm looking at the Graveyard rules, and it says that winners are only allowed to return under two conditions that happen during the real tournament: Either someone doesn't post their intro in the match or if the brackets of a round end up becoming uneven. So basically, it's a way to build up a reserve. Ergo, if everything above I've said is correct, that means that currently we can still host Graveyard matches, but we do not need to worry about how to implement a winner back into the tournament and possibly dig up another person (I would argue that- if we had to- it would be fairer, more sensible, and less time-consuming to merely pick the top two graveyard winners to round everything out) considering the bracket as it stands is perfectly even. In short, I don't believe we actually have to worry about it. Am I missing anything?
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Wallace	May 27 2012, 07:48 AM Post #22
Break out the L-word. The other L-word. Posts: 1,889 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,873 Joined: February 24, 2011	Don't think so, you've pretty much got it covered, I think. I have no clue why this was all so complicated for us to figure out, it seems pretty simple now.
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HollyYoshi	May 27 2012, 07:51 AM Post #23
I object to your claims Posts: 15,025 Group: =SB= Queens Member #9,640 Joined: January 9, 2009 Gender: Female Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 1891-1489-0768 Nintendo ID: Agent_Blaire Game Currently Playing: Yoshi's Island	Yeah, it does seem rather simple.



Lady BlizShadow	May 27 2012, 08:28 AM Post #24
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Well, if that's the case, then the tournament will proceed as normal. However, someone also mentioned the storyline, and I think it's a more pressing issue right now. With L having left, we don't know exactly what he had in mind, thus the current storyline is hanging in the air. I see two potential solutions: 1) DF, me, and the judges proceed to create our own story from the part that L left off on. This would be difficult if only for the fact that we would have to either control or somehow get rid of L's characters, however it will ultimately be fairer on everyone who has already gotten invested into it. 2) We scrap it and start fresh, allowing us freer reign to create a better and more controlled storyline, but the participants would have to start over with introductions and such well into the first round. I think both have their own downsides, but I'd like to know which way people would like to go with that, or even if they have other solutions to the problem.
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Lady Miracle	May 27 2012, 08:41 AM Post #25
[insert something cheerful here] Posts: 8,037 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,289 Joined: August 20, 2008	I'm actually inclined towards 2. Mainly because L's stories and characters tend to be eccentric and overly-complex, so trying to build from them is really quite messy. He's pretty much the only one who can make sense of them; that's why they're his. shrugs
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HollyYoshi	May 27 2012, 08:42 AM Post #26
I object to your claims Posts: 15,025 Group: =SB= Queens Member #9,640 Joined: January 9, 2009 Gender: Female Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 1891-1489-0768 Nintendo ID: Agent_Blaire Game Currently Playing: Yoshi's Island	I honestly don't mind either way. Both have their pros and cons to them, all it comes down to is what works best for the tournament.



Wallace	May 27 2012, 08:47 AM Post #27
Break out the L-word. The other L-word. Posts: 1,889 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,873 Joined: February 24, 2011	Miracle May 27 2012, 08:41 AM I'm actually inclined towards 2. Mainly because L's stories and characters tend to be eccentric and overly-complex, so trying to build from them is really quite messy. He's pretty much the only one who can make sense of them; that's why they're his. shrugs Yeah, I'm sort of leaning that way, too. Just seems appropriate that since he's no longer on the project, we not bother with the plans he had in his mind for the story and just wipe the slate and make a new story.
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Amarok	May 27 2012, 10:13 AM Post #28
Fear the cold... Posts: 1,571 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,292 Joined: July 31, 2010 Gender: Male Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 4639-9449-9700 Nintendo ID: EzekialWolffe Game Currently Playing: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword	OKAY! So I've caught up on everything so far, and I have to say, I'm happy to win and all, but it wasn't really much of a fight. I'm willing to go up against Fen in the second bracket, but the system for it is still a little confusing. If all fights go on as planned, 16 fighters each going one on one, and Chibitalia's still on the brackets, wouldn't that mean that there's nine fighters left, since Fen's still in the game?
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Lady BlizShadow	May 27 2012, 10:17 AM Post #29
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	I appreciate your willingness to allow Fen another go, but I'm still not sure why you've been asked to fight him in the Graveyard since that's only for fighters who have lost. o.o Basically, the eight fighters who have "died" are meant to battle each other; the top three have a shot of being reserve fighters in case a disqualification or dropout leads to an uneven bracket. The way I understand it is if Fen wants another shot, he will have to fight a person who has lost, and from what I'm seeing, that can't be you going by the Graveyard rules.
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Wallace	May 27 2012, 10:25 AM Post #30
Break out the L-word. The other L-word. Posts: 1,889 Group: S Rank Hero Member #11,873 Joined: February 24, 2011	Well, he hasn't been asked to fight Fen in the graveyard, per se. It's more of giving Fen another chance while also giving Zeke a fair fight. Also, it evens out the number problem with the least amount of effort.
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