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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 07:58 AM Post #1 |
Christmas is back again
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I'm not here to look at the past, merely focusing forwards. Yes! From here on out, I'm in charge, due to what's been said above. Quite frankly, I need a refresher on how things are concerning with our judges, who's in, and who's out? Provided I'm about to change no things around the first round. It'll continue like originally planned. Changes however will be that all matches will be closed on 7th of June. Unless ether one have forfeited. I have no idea about the judging time, due to we'll have to see the amount of work behind each round/match. Self to say, except three weeks, due to real life, etc. Another thing I'd like to take on note is Fenroar. I have no idea what Lilfate had actually in store for your potential way back into this tournament. I'm not sure if you've even discussed anything concerning this through PM. If not, then I'll just have to figure a way what gives an disqualified member's character a chance to return from the graveyard. Now bare with me, I said yes due to I don't wanna see another tournament end without a solid completion. Rewards shouldn't sufficiently be removed, just need to have a word around, concerning this. But I'm not really worried around this, due that this tournament won't finish in a while. Of course that is, how many are valiantly wishing to see this continue, now with the main host actually gone. Edited by BlizShadow, May 26 2012, 08:12 AM.
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| Wallace | May 26 2012, 08:16 AM Post #2 |
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First! Sorry, couldn't help it. Anyways, now that Star's left, that means Zeke wins that match by default and I AM NO LONGER ALONE IN THE LOBBY, YES! Nice to be able to FINALLY do something, now. Though, still, no matches have been won by actually being completed thus far. Mine was because Fen was disqualified and Zeke's was because Star left. So, hopefully the next match concluded will be by an actual victory. Or maybe they'll all just drag on to June 7th and we will have no matches that actually ended with a bang. Oh well. Edited by Wallace, May 26 2012, 08:17 AM.
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| Fenroar | May 26 2012, 08:43 AM Post #3 |
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Oh? Star decided he'll drop out after all? .-. Aww, though I guess I understand. Still, I don't think L wants people to drop out because of something he did, as it's DF in charge now. As for me, no, L and I haven't discussed anything. So it's all you, DF, to decide what I have to do. |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 09:02 AM Post #4 |
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I'm having an idea, but this is due to Star's forfeit. And I'm in fact willing to listen if members think this is fair, or whether a disqualification means no turning back. Here's what I'm thinking. No changes with The Master. Fenroar vs Courage Wolf The arena will here be replaced with an old fashioned Colosseum. Given the circumstances Fen's been disqualified will give him a slight disadvantage. Can't score a full score that is. No 10's. Whereas Courage have no restrictions and will be judged during the same method as everyone else. I'm open for suggestions however. And or if you consider this a foolish idea. And I need foremost the approval of Courage Wolf if he can approve of a true challenge instead winning by someone's forfeit. Edited by DragonFlame, May 26 2012, 09:03 AM.
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| Wallace | May 26 2012, 09:05 AM Post #5 |
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Yeah, I think that sounds like a pretty fair idea. Even though it leaves me all alone again... D: But yeah, still sounds fair enough. As long as you give a few disadvantages to Fen then I see no reason why this wouldn't work. |
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| Fenroar | May 26 2012, 09:11 AM Post #6 |
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Huh. Well, personally, I don't mind, but yeah, I think it's up to Courage Wolf. Whether he wants a proper, finished fight or simply wants to proceed due to Star's forfeit. What does the disadvantage mean though? Like let's say both fighters are exhausted and used their remaining strength into one last attack, and one fighter, the handicapped Fighter A, won. Does Fighter A still have a chance of losing though because of the handicap? Kinda confused what you mean. Of course, I understand as to why I would get a handicap. Minor action lead to me breaking a rule. |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 09:21 AM Post #7 |
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This is what I was referring to. Courage Wolf would be judged normally with 10 as the highest score. Fenroar, (you), would be judged with 9 as the highest score. Yet what if the match is ended before the deadline. One comes out victorious. There's that. Ideas are welcome. But most of all, need Courage's approval before I set up anything. Or else all things look rather glim toward your end Fenroar. Unless I can have someone on the forum, randomly enter. But then again, that'd make it uneven again. So yeah, can only see one solution out of this, and that falls on Courage Wolf's decision. |
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| Fenroar | May 26 2012, 09:27 AM Post #8 |
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So that means even if I win, I can't really afford any mistakes or misread anything, as that could dock me a point when my maximum is at nine. .-. Still kinda confused, but like that, right? But oh? Does that mean the graveyard is removed then? *sweat* Just wondering as well, but are you gonna continue L's storyline for the tournament? Or will it back to a normal old tournament? |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 09:36 AM Post #9 |
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Pretty much what I meant yes. I probably won't continue on Lilfate's story back in the lobby. Quite frankly don't know what he had in mind ahead of time is all. And I'm not going to remove the graveyard, but it won't have much purpose no. So quite frankly I ain't to bothered what happens to it, after this. Because I have no clue concerning this ether. L, had it simple sorted out already me thinks, but now he won't get around to it. |
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So though I'm clear on all this, do the rest of us continue our fights as planned? |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 10:26 AM Post #11 |
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There's nothing else that's been changed, Blaire. Tournament continues normally for everyone else. |
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| True Lycalo | May 26 2012, 11:37 AM Post #12 |
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Me personally, I've beed excited about this tournament to start. I've enjpyed participating and waiting anxiously (and patiently of course) for my opponent to post. Despite recent events, the same mindset from the beginning dwells within me. I really wanna see this through to the end, even if I don't make it through to the end. |
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| Venom-Sonic | May 26 2012, 12:03 PM Post #13 |
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My thoughts exactly. I'm thoroughly enjoying posting against Miracle, and quite frankly, no matter what happens, I really hope this comes to a fully satisfying conclusion. 
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 01:05 PM Post #14 |
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Talancir vs Blaire Kintu vs TC Miracle vs Venom Aaron vs That Guy Pedruben vs Connor Courage Wolf vs Star (Courage Wolf Have won, due Star's forfeit from this tournament) Sonshadsilv vs Chaos Fenroar vs The Master (The Master won because Fen's disqualification) If one each makes it further. Then we have 8 members left. So if I ain't doing nothing. We have no room for another member. Now due to the chance of revival. I've asked Courage Wolf if he's willing to prove his quarter final by fighting Fen in an possible old fashioned match, with some minor disadvantages. Been mentioned above. So what exactly am I missing in the Jukebox. It will be uneven if I add another member. Due to we simple keep the rooster. Explains below. Fen vs Courage Wolf. The one that makes it through will come to the quarter finals among the 7 other winners. That equals 8. I'm just trying to settle this if CW is willing to approve, or else I believe Fen's out from this tournament due to the earlier disqualification. Hopefully that solves some things. |
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| Ludichaos | May 26 2012, 01:19 PM Post #15 |
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Huh... you're right in the fact that Fen vs. Zeke would lead to the second round's bracket being uneven. You'd wind up with 7 rather than 8 that way. So I guess you could add another member (assuming someone else wants to join) to make it 8, though that means someone gets through to the second round without even trying. Hm... what to do. Well, I've got no real suggestions on the matter. Suppose I'm still in the tourney though. May as well see things through until I'm knocked out. |P I'm not too fussed about prizes at the end personally. I was never in this for them. Just fun mostly. I guess bragging rights are good enough (pfft. As if I'll ever beat Tal or Blaire). |P |
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| Wallace | May 26 2012, 01:27 PM Post #16 |
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Now, I know you're probably not to keen on trying to make the Graveyard work, DF, but if we can figure out a fair enough system for it, it would resolve that number problem. We'd let Fen go against Zeke, and then using whatever method we decide upon to select someone from the Graveyard to reenter the tournament, we'd add one more member for round two. Now, we could leave the Graveyard at that, seeing as it permanently corrects the number issue. I think if we did the Graveyard for more rounds than that, it would upset the balance again. So essentially, we could just use the Graveyard as a way to add in new members if we lose one and it becomes uneven. That is, of course, assuming we don't get a last-minute sign up. Edited by Wallace, May 26 2012, 01:34 PM.
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 26 2012, 01:57 PM Post #17 |
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That's the exactly opposite Chaos. We receive 8 winners if Courage Wolf decide he wishes to give Fen a second chance. If not. Fen's out, no more discussions I'm afraid. But I'm done discussing this. Perhaps I'm not seeing it in the right perspective, but quite frankly that's the only chance of revival in my book. Leaving the rodder to Bliz during the rest of this weekend however. Edited, due I think were your getting at me. Fen and Courage Wolf will fight like if it's supposed to be their 1st match. Simple as that. Fen has to prove him self to get into the 2nd round. Hopefully that clarifying things better. Edited by DragonFlame, May 26 2012, 01:58 PM.
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| Wallace | May 26 2012, 02:05 PM Post #18 |
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Oh, you're right, that does work. I've never been all that great at maths. >_> |
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| Ludichaos | May 26 2012, 02:16 PM Post #19 |
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... oh yeah. For some reason I didn't factor Kale into it when I was thinking about it. xD It's too early for me to be doing maths. |
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| Lady Miracle | May 26 2012, 02:23 PM Post #20 |
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This right here. I had already mentioned it in the original OOC Chat actually- can't really be bothered to care about the prizes. Bragging rights are more than enough. |
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| Lady BlizShadow | May 27 2012, 07:16 AM Post #21 |
I still can't use this.
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Well, DF told me to handle things over the weekend, so here I am. I'm seeing a lot of confusion about the current bracket here, to the point that I'm even messed up on some things. Let me see if I understand it now: If we were not to have any rematches to determine who could re-enter the tournament from the dead, we would have eight contestants and could continue normally. However, if Fen decides to have a Graveyard rematch against someone, that naturally means 1) two people will fight, thus leaving the guaranteed bracket at six and 2) With only one winner returning, the ultimate bracket will be at seven, not eight, prompting us to have to gather up another member. (The way I imagined his thing is that dead fighters only fight dead fighters, thus the winner would return and leave the currently 8-person bracket at 9. Either way, it's uneven.) Well, I'm looking at the Graveyard rules, and it says that winners are only allowed to return under two conditions that happen during the real tournament: Either someone doesn't post their intro in the match or if the brackets of a round end up becoming uneven. So basically, it's a way to build up a reserve. Ergo, if everything above I've said is correct, that means that currently we can still host Graveyard matches, but we do not need to worry about how to implement a winner back into the tournament and possibly dig up another person (I would argue that- if we had to- it would be fairer, more sensible, and less time-consuming to merely pick the top two graveyard winners to round everything out) considering the bracket as it stands is perfectly even. In short, I don't believe we actually have to worry about it. Am I missing anything? |
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| Wallace | May 27 2012, 07:48 AM Post #22 |
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Don't think so, you've pretty much got it covered, I think. I have no clue why this was all so complicated for us to figure out, it seems pretty simple now. |
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May 27 2012, 07:51 AM Post #23 |
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Yeah, it does seem rather simple. |
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| Lady BlizShadow | May 27 2012, 08:28 AM Post #24 |
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Well, if that's the case, then the tournament will proceed as normal. However, someone also mentioned the storyline, and I think it's a more pressing issue right now. With L having left, we don't know exactly what he had in mind, thus the current storyline is hanging in the air. I see two potential solutions: 1) DF, me, and the judges proceed to create our own story from the part that L left off on. This would be difficult if only for the fact that we would have to either control or somehow get rid of L's characters, however it will ultimately be fairer on everyone who has already gotten invested into it. 2) We scrap it and start fresh, allowing us freer reign to create a better and more controlled storyline, but the participants would have to start over with introductions and such well into the first round. I think both have their own downsides, but I'd like to know which way people would like to go with that, or even if they have other solutions to the problem. |
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| Lady Miracle | May 27 2012, 08:41 AM Post #25 |
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I'm actually inclined towards 2. Mainly because L's stories and characters tend to be eccentric and overly-complex, so trying to build from them is really quite messy. He's pretty much the only one who can make sense of them; that's why they're his. *shrugs* |
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May 27 2012, 08:42 AM Post #26 |
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I honestly don't mind either way. Both have their pros and cons to them, all it comes down to is what works best for the tournament. |
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| Wallace | May 27 2012, 08:47 AM Post #27 |
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Yeah, I'm sort of leaning that way, too. Just seems appropriate that since he's no longer on the project, we not bother with the plans he had in his mind for the story and just wipe the slate and make a new story. |
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| Amarok | May 27 2012, 10:13 AM Post #28 |
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OKAY! So I've caught up on everything so far, and I have to say, I'm happy to win and all, but it wasn't really much of a fight. I'm willing to go up against Fen in the second bracket, but the system for it is still a little confusing. If all fights go on as planned, 16 fighters each going one on one, and Chibitalia's still on the brackets, wouldn't that mean that there's nine fighters left, since Fen's still in the game? |
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| Lady BlizShadow | May 27 2012, 10:17 AM Post #29 |
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I appreciate your willingness to allow Fen another go, but I'm still not sure why you've been asked to fight him in the Graveyard since that's only for fighters who have lost. o.o Basically, the eight fighters who have "died" are meant to battle each other; the top three have a shot of being reserve fighters in case a disqualification or dropout leads to an uneven bracket. The way I understand it is if Fen wants another shot, he will have to fight a person who has lost, and from what I'm seeing, that can't be you going by the Graveyard rules. |
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| Wallace | May 27 2012, 10:25 AM Post #30 |
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Well, he hasn't been asked to fight Fen in the graveyard, per se. It's more of giving Fen another chance while also giving Zeke a fair fight. Also, it evens out the number problem with the least amount of effort. |
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| Fenroar | May 27 2012, 11:47 AM Post #31 |
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Yeah, what Master said. It's not really related to the graveyard at all, it was just DF wondering if Courage Wolf wanted a proper finished fight and all. I don't care though, either option is fine with me. Only in this tournament for fun and all, like everybody else. But just to make sure, my status right now is fight the people who lost their fights, and if I succeed, I can join the tournament as a possible replacement/reserve? Also, I lean to starting fresh for the story. Has L left the forum though because of this? .____. I thought he said he'll hand the ending and blue prints off to you guys or something. |
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| Lady BlizShadow | May 27 2012, 12:35 PM Post #32 |
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I'm curious; on what grounds was Fen disqualified? I don't mind you two going on to have another fight of the ruling was considered controversial and then determining a true winner of the match that way; however I would merely have you two bound to the time limit that the rest of the fighters are. Basically, the tournament would still proceed as if Fen was never disqualified. Also, there really isn't a number problem right now however we proceed. I'm beginning to think you guys got twisted around. xD |
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| Fenroar | May 27 2012, 12:45 PM Post #33 |
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I accidentally healed a cut during the battle, which I would take back. :B The cut didn't affect the battle at all, but no healing is allowed, so rules are rules. |
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| Ludichaos | May 27 2012, 11:25 PM Post #34 |
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As far as rebooting the story goes, I'm leaning towards the second option too for similar reasons to those that have already been outlined. I did kind of feel there was just a bit too much going on in the lobby. I'm not too far into my match so it's not a big deal for me. Even if my first post was freakin' massive. Guess it depends on how Triple S is feeling. Question though: If we do reboot completely and start fresh is this going to effect the first bracket at all? Or will we just carry on as usual with the arenas that are there? I'm not really fussed either way, just curious. |
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| True Lycalo | May 28 2012, 01:14 AM Post #35 |
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I suppose whatever happens is fine by me. I only had 2 posts in my battle, so if a reboot were to happen, I have no objections so no worries there Chaos LoL. |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 28 2012, 07:22 AM Post #36 |
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My question referred to, if you'd be willing to fight Fen during the 1st bracket. But I've looked into what's been said. And it wouldn't be fair no. But was only looking to add an replacement for Star during the first round. And that's why I asked. Because if I would've asked for you to face Fen during the 2nd bracket, that would lead to uneven numbers. If you still don't get my saying, please refer to what's been mentioned. Seeing as I was only looking for a solution. Edited by DragonFlame, May 28 2012, 07:22 AM.
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| Amarok | May 28 2012, 12:49 PM Post #37 |
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Okay, understood this time. I'll take him on in the first bracket, not the second. I'll do my best not to keep the others waiting. |
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| Fenroar | May 28 2012, 01:07 PM Post #38 |
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So, uh, wait, this is a first bracket fight? I'm confused. Can someone clarify this for me one more time to be sure? Thought my fight was going to be a "graveyard" fight, as Bliz put it, and the winner was going to be a reserve or something. |
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| KogaHarine | May 28 2012, 01:15 PM Post #39 |
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I think your basically a replacement for me since I dropped out. I think... Don't quote me on that cause I'm not too sure. |
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| Lord Talancir D'Landior | May 28 2012, 08:47 PM Post #40 |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 29 2012, 09:01 AM Post #41 |
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Ah! You may have noticed that I mentioned three weeks before results are finished. I'm thinking about giving you one or two more weeks, but something tells me I wanna have Bliz's confirmation as well, or else we may very well end up follow the rules like Lilfate wanted with the graveyard.
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| Fenroar | May 29 2012, 09:19 AM Post #42 |
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Thought Bliz said it was going to be a graveyard fight for me. But never mind then! |
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| Lady BlizShadow | May 29 2012, 09:34 AM Post #43 |
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My apologies; I was thinking that your disqualification was going to stand, thus your fight would have been a graveyard fight. Now I'm understanding that the discussion is concerning a proper rematch between you and Courage Wolf. If you both agree to it- that's fine, although I would suggest you guys are still affected by the time limit that the others are; or, if any extension is to be enacted, that it only be a week. Again, I think any action we do at this point on- including letting the results stand- would not harm the bracket in any way. =P |
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| Wallace | May 29 2012, 10:26 AM Post #44 |
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Wait, so if it's just like a rematch for Zeke and Fen, where do I factor in? I mean, if Fen's disqualification no longer stands, then does that mean I still won our match? |
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| Fenroar | May 29 2012, 11:30 AM Post #45 |
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I think you're still allowed to move on. |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 31 2012, 10:19 AM Post #46 |
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Okay then, so here's the thing. You'll get three more days then the rest of them. Just do whatever you manage in the short span you've been given. If another judge thinks you should be given a whole week extra, then they need to vouch their opinion before the deadline is out. Good luck Fen and Courage Wolf. |
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| True Lycalo | May 31 2012, 12:20 PM Post #47 |
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I think my opponent has vanished. I made my post a week and 4 days ago which I unfortunatley believe that's the deadline  It seems ever since that little incident, things have sorta slowed down around here. I could just be me that feels this way though considering I check this place rather frequently. |
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| Fenroar | May 31 2012, 01:22 PM Post #48 |
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Oh alright. So I pretty much have to finish the battle if I want a chance to win it sounds like. Question; you said no extra equipment. You said no batteries, but do I lose my sword as well? Also, I have a week-long school trip thing starting the 10th of June anyway, so yeah, I don't think it will be possible for me to post past that even if anybody's generous. |
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| Lord DragonFlame | May 31 2012, 01:26 PM Post #49 |
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Christmas is back again
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Nah! I only meant extra equipment such as batteries for recharging. |
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| Fenroar | May 31 2012, 01:36 PM Post #50 |
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Perfectionist
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Ah, okay. And oh, does that mean Fenroar get to keep his goo bombs too as well? xD Just remembered. |
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