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MegaUpload Shut Down by Federal Government; 13th most popular website in the world is no more
Topic Started: Jan 19 2012, 01:27 PM (517 Views)
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Feds Say 7 from Megaupload.com Ran
Massive Worldwide Piracy Website

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/


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McLean, Va. - Federal prosecutors have shut down one of the world's largest file-sharing sites, Megaupload.com, on charges of violating piracy laws -- a day after a 24-hour blackout of popular websites such as Wikipedia drew national attention to the issue.

"This action is among the largest criminal copyright cases ever brought by the United States," the Justice department said in a statement about the indictment.

The indictment accuses seven individuals and two corporations -- Megaupload Limited and Vestor Limited -- of costing copyright holders more than $500 million in lost revenue from pirated films and other content. It was unsealed on Thursday, and claims that at one point Megaupload was the 13th most popular website in the world.

Megaupload was unique not only because of its massive size and the volume of downloaded content, but also because it had high-profile support from celebrities, musicians and other content producers who are most often the victims of copyright infringement and piracy. Before the website was taken down, it contained endorsements from Kim Kardashian, Alicia Keys and Kanye West, among others.

The Hong Kong-based company listed Swizz Beatz, a musician who married Keys in 2010, as its CEO. Beatz declined to comment through a representative.

The individuals in the criminal enterprise -- a worldwide ring led by colorful Australian Kim Dotcom, aka Kim Schmitz and Kim Tim Jim Vestor. Each person involved faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison on racketeering charges, five years for conspiracy to commit copyright infringement, 20 years on money laundering charges and five years on related charges.

Dotcom is a German who legally changed his last named to "Dotcom." He was once convicted of a felony but he has repeatedly denied engaging in piracy, , according to CNET.com.

The indictment comes the day after a 24-hour "blackout" of Wikipedia, a protest doodle on the homepage of Google, and numerous other protests across the Internet against proposed anti-piracy legislation that many leading websites -- including Reddit, Google, Facebook, Amazon and others -- contend will make it challenging if not impossible for them to operate.

The Protect Intellectual Property Act under consideration in the Senate and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House are bills backed by the motion picture and recording industries intended to eliminate theft online once and for all. S. 968 and H.R. 3261 would require ISPs to block access to foreign websites that infringe on copyrights.

Online piracy from China and elsewhere is a massive problem for the media industry, one that costs as much as $250 billion per year and costs the industry 750,000 jobs, according to a 2008 statement by Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.

But how exactly the bills would counter piracy has many up in arms.


Even without SOPA and PIPA, the US Federal Government is still going to try and stiff arm sites they don't like.. and here is your precedent.
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I still can't use this.

I want self-righteous old people who don't understand that piracy isn't directly equatable to lost sales from people who were necessarily going to buy these products in the first place to just die off already. The obvious corporate influence of this stupid decision can go suck an egg as well.
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See, THIS just proves that both SOPA and PIPA are both useless. If they've already started trafficking copyrighted items, why bother making it even worse? It's just making more work for the people who don't want to do it. [/rant]
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Someone got butthurt by this video that showed that ACTUAL recording artists support sites like these.

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On December 9, 2011, Megaupload published a music video titled: "The Mega Song", showing artists including Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Alicia Keys and will.i.am endorsing the company. The music video was also uploaded to YouTube, but was removed following a takedown request by the record company Universal Music Group (UMG). Megaupload said that the video contained no infringing content, commenting: "we have signed agreements with every featured artist for this campaign". Megaupload requested an apology from UMG, and filed a lawsuit against the company in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, on December 12, 2011. UMG denied that the takedown was ordered under the terms of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, and said that the takedown was "pursuant to the UMG-YouTube agreement," which gives UMG "the right to block or remove user-posted videos through YouTube's CMS (Content Management System) based on a number of contractually specified criteria."The video was subsequently returned to YouTube, with the reasons for the UMG takedown remaining unclear. YouTube stated: "Our partners do not have the right to take down videos from YT unless they own the rights to them or they are live performances controlled through exclusive agreements with their artists, which is why we reinstated it." Lawyers for will.i.am initially claimed that he had never agreed to the project, but on December 12, he denied any involvement in the takedown notice.


I think a problem with these recording studios is that they think that they own more than just the content they've signed to own.. it's almost like they believe they own the artists and anything they do for any reason based on their actions. It's disgusting.
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I actually like Megaupload, I used it sometimes to find things I couldn't elsewhere. :(

I'm curious if they looked at the premium membership option they had and where that would fit in with everything. I would assume they would possibly be giving artists their share of money?
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I don't know about that but it definitely screws people who did pay for a premium membership that is still active.. those people won't get their money back and it's not like there's any big money group up in arms over the little guy getting screwed over.
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Did anyone read that letter by Veoh founder? Veoh had a lawsuit filed against them (I forget by whom) and even though they won all the cases, the legal fees were so much they basically had to sell the company for cheap. Such is the story of a perfectly legal company getting taken down by false charges.
I call generation warfare. One of SOPA's proponents mentioned that the bill did something along the lines of 'gets rid of this generation's sense of entitlement.' Sounds like the textbook definition of forcing your ideals, plain and simple.
And I don't say these things lightly.
We may be in danger since many judges (and legislators) are of this age and mindset, which may skew their vision by increasing urgency. They don't want to leave the world like it is, and I truly don't believe they're looking very far into the future here on what shutting down MU will do.
Though my consequentialism is a logical fallacy, and the ruling ideally isn't supposed to be influenced by the consequence, but by the evidence and whether or not they are guilty.
Let's just hope we don't get an objective jury, though even in MU does win the case, they may still lose a lot and the Internet community will lose many valuable files.
I've always been supportive of my government, but this heavy attack is something of what I consider a personal attack. Even though I still believe it's the big (not capitalized) old media's fault, this blatant governmental support has shaken up my entire system of beliefs. Go figure.
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@Max- One of the reasons why MegaU went down..

@Fwiss- I don't worry about the Judges.. even the ones I don't like are mostly unbiased as they all follow constitutional law to a T. People loved when the case against video games was brought to them and everyone, even people from other countries, liked how the judges slammed the case being made against video games for being flimsy... they "knew their shi7" even if it was a form of media from a different generation than their own.
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Well, at least we can thank the court system for siding by nature with the defendant. That is, similar peers and all.
Let's hope these judges participate in the practice of shit-knowing. I suppose if Veoh won both cases, then MU can be saved too.
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I don't think it was a bad thing, Megaupload had a TON of pirated stuff on it. The thing is though, that there are others that are just as bad such as Rapidshare, etc. In this case I find it to be a good thing but corporations pushing their agendas is a bad thing.

Corporations are becoming to America as the Cartel is to Mexico. They might pretty much own the government soon. lol
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I don't think it was a bad thing, Megaupload had a TON of pirated stuff on it. The thing is though, that there are others that are just as bad such as Rapidshare, etc. In this case I find it to be a good thing but corporations pushing their agendas is a bad thing.

Corporations are becoming to America as the Cartel is to Mexico. They might pretty much own the government soon. lol
The truth is though, Megaupload would take down pirated content "when they came across it" and I had seen instances of that. It's just the fact that the US (American) Federal Government could overreach so much to bring in people in all these other countries, even with the support of many artists themselves for the website, and do what they've done.. Hell they are even holding the GRAPHICS DESIGNER for the site on the same charges.. just the guy who designed the look and logos.. being put on trial for piracy. Ridiculous.

Piracy is bad but you have to be lawful in how you pursue your targets, and this search and seizure was questionable at best and doesn't solve anything. MegaUpload was used for legal filesharing just as often as it was shady and it will only be replaced by rapidshare, filesonic, and torrent websites. All this effectively did was piss a lot of people off.

And "Might pretty much own the government soon"? They already do for the most part. Money talks, and the corporations have a lot of money to do a lot of talking.
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Maybe so but I don't see it as a bad thing anyway. Regulating the internet, yes, but shutting down sites that break our laws? No. If they were legitimately supporting a piracy ring that is. Just having celebrities support it doesn't mean much. Anyone who likes getting stuff for free will endorse it. It's like pot smokers endorsing pot, doesn't hold much weight.
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Maybe so but I don't see it as a bad thing anyway. Regulating the internet, yes, but shutting down sites that break our laws? No. If they were legitimately supporting a piracy ring that is. Just having celebrities support it doesn't mean much. Anyone who likes getting stuff for free will endorse it. It's like pot smokers endorsing pot, doesn't hold much weight.
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Neo, if Megaupload can host a "multi-national" piracy ring then what is stopping the federal government from going after Youtube, or their parent, Google... Maybe even a site like Deviantart... or hell even small time sites like us.. we host copyrighted characters.. link to Youtube videos which have copyrighted content.. e.t.c. By that definition, Sonic Blast could be seen in the loosest of terms as a "multi-national piracy ring" and by saying you're okay with Megaupload means you would be okay with the Fed coming in here and taking us out along with our parent site, Zetaboards "just because." Best part of all that is that you, I and Bliz could all be taken into prison for 20+ years just for being apart of the leadership here.. Mods too and even some high posting members... who knows.

Granted that's an extreme scenario but the gov has already proven what it can do WITHOUT SOPA/PIPA.. where does the buck stop?
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