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Rick Perry targets the Constitution; Oh my
Topic Started: Aug 20 2011, 01:07 PM (572 Views)
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/seven-ways-rick-perry-wants-change-constitution-131634517.html


It's kind of an iffy thought of changing the constitution, but I dunno, most of these ideas seem pretty-
wait why is he hating homosexuals?



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Well I know who I am not voting for. For one thing being against gay marriage can really make things bad for him (If two same-gender people want to get married it shouldn't be the government who decides whether they can or not). The second thing for me is abortion (I'm pro choice). Now everything up to those two sounds... somewhat okay I guess... But he lost me when he hit those two points. (I have friends that are gay. And targeting them should be considered a form discrimination).
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Suppressing court power, banning gay marriage and abortion, and decreasing voter power? Yeahno. fudge you, Rick Perry.
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So this article says that Governor Perry used to be pro-States on a lot of this stuff...

And now that he's running for president, he's pro-Federal.

Plus, like Star said, love isn't a thing the government should be able to regulate and restrict. If two same sex men or women are in love and wish to marry, than they should be able to. I don't give a f**k what your religion says about it. And again, on the abortion issue, and as Star said, it's a choice thing. I'm not pro-abortion, but it's a choice and the federal government shouldn't be able to restrict it.

If I could vote, I wouldn't vote for him.
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/request to change topic title into "What do you think about Gay Marriage?"

- inb4 people start to get philosophical -
Edited by [Kanon], Aug 21 2011, 02:10 PM.
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Aug 20 2011, 01:56 PM
So this article says that Governor Perry used to be pro-States on a lot of this stuff...

And now that he's running for president, he's pro-Federal.

Plus, like Star said, love isn't a thing the government should be able to regulate and restrict. If two same sex men or women are in love and wish to marry, than they should be able to. I don't give a f**k what your religion says about it. And again, on the abortion issue, and as Star said, it's a choice thing. I'm not pro-abortion, but it's a choice and the federal government shouldn't be able to restrict it.

If I could vote, I wouldn't vote for him.
Well if we're pro choice, then shouldn't the man have a say in the choice? If the father wants the kid but the woman wants an abortion, I think if one person wants it then they should be forced to give birth. There are two parents after all...

I don't like him because he seems like a fanatic and would never vote for him but I think the people here and everywhere I've seen that are opposing him are just as hateful as he is. :| If you can't accept his views then you're doing EXACTLY what he is by not accepting gays.
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Aug 20 2011, 02:19 PM
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Aug 20 2011, 01:56 PM
So this article says that Governor Perry used to be pro-States on a lot of this stuff...

And now that he's running for president, he's pro-Federal.

Plus, like Star said, love isn't a thing the government should be able to regulate and restrict. If two same sex men or women are in love and wish to marry, than they should be able to. I don't give a f**k what your religion says about it. And again, on the abortion issue, and as Star said, it's a choice thing. I'm not pro-abortion, but it's a choice and the federal government shouldn't be able to restrict it.

If I could vote, I wouldn't vote for him.
Well if we're pro choice, then shouldn't the man have a say in the choice? If the father wants the kid but the woman wants an abortion, I think if one person wants it then they should be forced to give birth. There are two parents after all...

I don't like him because he seems like a fanatic and would never vote for him but I think the people here and everywhere I've seen that are opposing him are just as hateful as he is. :| If you can't accept his views then you're doing EXACTLY what he is by not accepting gays.
The way I see it, the choice is more of the woman's since it's her body, even if the man did contribute to what's in her body. I imagine that most likely the couple would come to an agreement on whether or not they keep it. It's still not really any of the governments business.

@Second Paragraph... what?

So, you're saying that if I disagree with his nonacceptance of gay marriage, then I'm just as bad as him for not agreeing with him? Because that's what I got out of that last sentence.
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I don't think it's more the woman's choice at all, the man should have equal say.

The last sentence was more of a joke but I do think people who hate on someone(not saying anyone here is outright hating) because of their opinion is pretty much doing the same thing as the person hating on someone else because of their opinion. Unless the said person is outright killing or torturing someone because hate is hate and hating on someone hating doesn't make it right.
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Disirregardless of who's choice it is, it definitely isn't the government's, in my opinion.

And no, I don't hate Rick Perry. I just disagree with his opinions, and think that he definitely should not be President.
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Aug 20 2011, 02:38 PM
I don't think it's more the woman's choice at all, the man should have equal say.

The last sentence was more of a joke but I don't think people who hate on someone(not saying anyone here is outright hating) because of their opinion is pretty much doing the same thing as the person hating on someone else because of their opinion. Unless the said person is outright killing or torturing someone because hate is hate and hating on someone hating doesn't make it right.
I think the man should have a say but it should ultimately be the woman's choice. Because it is her body that has to bear the child not the man's.
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Aug 20 2011, 02:42 PM
Disirregardless of who's choice it is, it definitely isn't the government's, in my opinion.

And no, I don't hate Rick Perry. I just disagree with his opinions, and think that he definitely should not be President.
I think the Gov't should step out of a lot of things but well they still regulate things they shouldn't.
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So this dude wants to ban gay marriage? Like completely? Not very good. I don't see what the big deal is. So a man loves another man. So what? They are both human beings that fell in love with each other for who they are. They have just a right to marry as anyone else. Lesbians included. It just sickens me the way everyone talk about gays. Its as if homosexual people are a totally different species or something. Love is love.

As for abortions, I just don't know about that. All I can say is I think their wrong.
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Aug 20 2011, 01:44 PM
Suppressing court power, banning gay marriage and abortion, and decreasing voter power? Yeahno. fudge you, Rick Perry.
Fudge pretty much any Republican running for anything right now.. since from what they're all saying that's all their agendas...

Yaknow.. that and killing Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid and saying no to pretty much any legitimate proposal Democrats bring up to try and compromise.

They're just trying to do away with anything that gets in the way of their agenda.. a.k.a. creating an America where Corporations are King.
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Bah hah. The Constitution's hard to amend in order to prevent hardliners like Rick Perry from doing things like this. To propose the change, there either must be a 2/3+ majority in both houses of Congress or 2/3+ of the states' legislative bodies call upon Congress for a national convention. To commit such amendments, 3/4+ of the state legislature bodies have to approve of it, or ratification conventions in 3/4+ of the states approve.

And people wonder why I went from Republican to a moderate Independent position.
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