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Sonic adnveutre 3 topic; from another forum
Topic Started: Jun 8 2011, 10:54 PM (1,481 Views)
DJGameFreakTheIguana Jun 8 2011, 10:54 PM Post #1
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 Before I post this, let me share an idea I had months ago. I know how people go on youtube and make their own video talking about stuff right? Namely, rants on games. What I was gonna do was make a slide show of posts from a VG related topic and see what the viewers thought. However, my game and music projects are are top priority, so I never moved on it.

With that said, I'm share this link with you all, it's a topic about why sega wont make a Sonic adventure 3 game even though many fan ask for it(and many of them did ask for it at this forum, back when I was there). I'll post the link to this topic here, you read it, and post your thoughts on the topic or it's comments.
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?373920-Why-wont-sega-give-us-Sonic-Adventure-3-even-though-Fans-demanded-it.

If there just happen to be a rule against this type of thing, you mods and admin guys can just move it or delete it, whatever you do, and I'll leave it at that.
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Cee Jay HaychPosted Image Jun 9 2011, 02:20 AM Post #2
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"I didn't use the whole thing ...."
 I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Making a game and giving it the name 'Sonic Adventure 3' will not automatically make it good.
Sonic has been making vast improvements in his gameplay style with the likes of Unleash, Colours and the latest Generations, Sega should not (And most likely will not) return to a style full of bugs and glitches.

Oh and . . .
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HollyYoshiPosted Image Jun 9 2011, 01:26 PM Post #3
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I object to your claims
 I'm just going to say that I don't ever want to see the name 'Sonic Adventure 3' slapped onto a Sonic game. To me, of the Adventure series, SA1 was the only really good one and even that had a bunch of glitches and bugs.


Give me an Unleashed/Colors/Generation-style game any day of the week. That's the kinda direction I want the series to go.
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DJGameFreakTheIguana Jun 9 2011, 02:04 PM Post #4
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 In retrospect, after sonic2K6, I know SA3 won't be a likely title name for any would be adventure title, but I prefer the formula SA2,06, and Unleashed had. You can't tell me sega can't make a sonic game with sonic's new mechanics without being able to add playable characters to.
BTW, I never heard anyone specifically say that an SA3 title name would automatically make the game better, it's probably just the type of game the user wants and since adventure 2 is the only noted sequel title, that's what they think it may be called. But really though, generations will be the 6th mainstream sonic title with him alone. :P

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Breezy Jun 9 2011, 02:35 PM Post #5
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We all make choices. But in the end, our choices make us
 Its like a for sure thing that Sonic Adventure 3 will never happen. Which sucks. Even if it did happen it would have Unleashed/Colors/Generation-style game play and honestly, that is something I wouldn't want. I still enjoy the recent games but I much prefer the Adventure style over it. I wanna feel like Im in control of my character. Not the camera. Any who, like they were saying on the topic,Unleashed was supposed to be SA3. Looks like the idea got scrapped during development, so yeah. It most likely will never happen. Sob sob.
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DJGameFreakTheIguana Jun 9 2011, 02:50 PM Post #6
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 You make some points Breezy, but then you have to remember one thing the thread starter mentioned, that certain fans are getting games they asked for, why not the others. Though, the fact that we aren't as vocal as the nay Sayers may answer that. It's like, the less a sonic title has, the better, which seems backwards, like people getting pissed off at sonic 4 just because sonic had the homing attacks, and the "not fitting in a 2D game" just seems like a pitiful excuse for someone who doesn't feel like pressing the jump button twice to beat enemies efficiently, get more points, and get to new places in a certain time frame, as oppose to just sitting in one spot using a spin dash.

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Breezy Jun 9 2011, 03:06 PM Post #7
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We all make choices. But in the end, our choices make us
 You got a point. But even when people do get what they want, they will still find ways to complain about. Tis the the pitiful ways of our fellow Sonic bretheren.
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DJGameFreakTheIguana Jun 9 2011, 05:43 PM Post #8
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 Quite true, not to mention that to them, the people who agree with them are the only people the take into account, and the guys who say otherwise are the minority, which is only true on that forum: It's completely one sided. Even so, you still have to take into account what everybody wants if your gonna say something like that, and it's pretty apparent there's a strong group of us who wants another adventure like title, but that's overshadowed by people like Aknotholeresdent, who will take time out of their day to make a video just to bash something. You never see that in reverse.

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Breezy Jun 10 2011, 05:18 PM Post #9
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We all make choices. But in the end, our choices make us
 There are also people who just can't respect someone else's opinion and like, bash on the game they really like and whatnot. Im one of those that can respect some one's opinion, no matter how much I disagree with it. I mean, you'll see that with any franchise. No one will agree with the same thing. It can get very one sided and completely unfair. I honestly, would get pretty hyped if SA3 were to be announced, but I already know it would feel nothing like the other two.
Although some may say the Adventure series is overrated, I think they deserve to be overrated, cause they were really good games. I can't put it any other way. I never hear people talking about Unleashed or Colors being overrated. Cause they are. >.>
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Leafy Jun 10 2011, 06:41 PM Post #10
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Ahh, spring~
 I loved the Adventure series. I will admit they had some major, fundamental flaws (most notably, genre roulette-ing and a screwy camera), but they still remain as two of my favourite Sonic titles to this very day.

That said, the way to move forward isn't by taking a step back. I love the amazing thrills made possible through Unleashed's approach at level design and gameplay, and I appreciate its more polished camera/controls. I would terribly miss the "wow" factor brought by the boost and the exploration brought by the branching pathways if Sonic Team were to revert back to the Adventure formula. I feel the next step in progression in making Sonic's 3D gameplay even better is not to stick with one formula or the other but combine Sonic Adventure's platforming and faux-"open world-ness" with Unleashed's alternate paths and insane adrenaline rushes. Generations seems to be trying just that with modern Sonic's City Escape, which leaves me hopeful for what the next 3D Sonic title might bring.
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DJGameFreakTheIguana Jun 10 2011, 07:25 PM Post #11
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There are also people who just can't respect someone else's opinion and like, bash on the game they really like and whatnot. Im one of those that can respect some one's opinion, no matter how much I disagree with it. I mean, you'll see that with any franchise. No one will agree with the same thing. It can get very one sided and completely unfair. I honestly, would get pretty hyped if SA3 were to be announced, but I already know it would feel nothing like the other two.
Although some may say the Adventure series is overrated, I think they deserve to be overrated, cause they were really good games. I can't put it any other way. I never hear people talking about Unleashed or Colors being overrated. Cause they are. >.>
Completely true, but if an SA3 was announced, my concern would be with the characters other then sonic and what kinda gamplay they will have. I was actually pretty cool with tails in a mech, and it was the only time Eggman was playable in a real mainstream game, not the spin-offs like Sonic R and Drift. As far as unleashed goes, I still can't decide if I even like that game over shadow, since the main attraction for me was the warehog. Colors I never played, but if it's suppose to me like the day stages of unleashed, that's cool, but that wasn't my favorite part of that title. Truthfully, they should just have sonic control as he did in SA2 for normal stages, and for the speed runs like in 06, give;em unleashed controls. That's all he really needs.

@Leafy :
I can see what your sayin' man, but I wouldn't call that a step back(but I love the statement you made). I mean, if another adventure title was, don't you think sega could can completely change\add new mechanics to the others like they did with sonic, while still adding the adrenaline rushes I also liked? Games can only be as limited as the developer, and if sega is still going by what fans say, will be very limited.

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Breezy Jun 10 2011, 08:16 PM Post #12
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 I always thought about that too Leafy. Instead of just getting rid of all the aspects of the Adventure series, why not combine it with what they have going on now? The only thing that really irks me in the new titles is all the freakin' platforming. I can't stand it. I just need speed, speed, speed. And I think thats why Im so loyal to the Adventure series. Im not stopping and waiting 10 seconds for a platform to come down and carry me halfway or jumping over and over again just to land on some structure. Im speaking about the Sonic stages in SA2 mind you. I know that the mech stages had alot of platforming and whatnot. I still liked those stages though. And unlike most, I loved having Tails in a mech. :P
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DJGameFreakTheIguana Jun 10 2011, 08:36 PM Post #13
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I always thought about that too Leafy. Instead of just getting rid of all the aspects of the Adventure series, why not combine it with what they have going on now? The only thing that really irks me in the new titles is all the freakin' platforming. I can't stand it. I just need speed, speed, speed. And I think thats why Im so loyal to the Adventure series. Im not stopping and waiting 10 seconds for a platform to come down and carry me halfway or jumping over and over again just to land on some structure.
Another good point made. Every deels on what a sonic game needs to be then how the character should play like. Sonic's ablilty is speed, so why should he have to stop the wait for something? The heavy platforming gameplay would probably fit any character who's been playable in a sonic game, BUT sonic himself, and shadow for that matter. It' not like we're playing a game of mario or megaman, lol. Tails, he should play to his wiz kid character and start using different tech to beat badnicks, and Eggman should be playable again, or maybe some robot he made that doesn't betray him, but winds up becoming the final boss that Eggman pilots. :cool:
But we may not see anything like that happen, because people just aren't down for anything, not even certain spin-offs either. I had a guy post a screenshot of the scott pilgrim game and say it's the best game in the world, but post sonic's head over scott's and say worst game in the world. But then again, there is this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAHSZ8giqMs&playnext=1&list=PLD456602D9F8ABB09
and of course, sonic battle.

I could go on for day man.....

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Omega RKB Jun 11 2011, 06:34 AM Post #14
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All that was.
 The Adventure series was a brilliant series it is true, my favorite Sonic game of all time is Sonic Adventures infact... ...BUT, making Sonic Adventure 3 would be an absolutely terrible idea, the Adventure engine and game-play is good, but incredibly outdated, to create a new game with the same game-play and ideas would feel old and dull. The only thing that could really be taken from the Adventure series is the physics, how Sonic runs and how Tails flies, Sonics running felt fast, but actually wasn't that fast and was easy to control, just like in the classics. Tails flight felt realistic, gradually accelerating the longer you flew up, before stopping, then gradually accelerating downwards, like in the classics. And Knuckles ran pretty fast, but not as fast as Sonic, could glide for incredible lengths of time off of cliffs, but not off of flat ground, and climbed walls slowly, but not intolerably slowly... like in the classics.
The physics of the Adventure series were almost exactly like those of the MegaDrive games except with a 3rd dimension to travel left or right in, I believe this is one of the main reasons people loved the game so much, but the problem is, these gameplay mechanics are simple, and would feel old and outdated if they released them in a game now.
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Breezy Jun 11 2011, 07:39 AM Post #15
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 That made so such sense Omega. I never really thought about how outdated it would be if they went back to the old Adventure gameplay mechanics. Its kind of like, leaving the legends be and not trying to repeat what was already great. Cause as exciting as it would be, another Adventure installment would turn out horribly.
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