The old portrayal of Knuckles

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The old portrayal of Knuckles; Was it better?
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 1 2011, 01:29 PM (1,109 Views)
742 mph	Apr 1 2011, 01:29 PM Post #1
Strange, isn't it? Posts: 249 Group: C Rank Guardian Member #11,677 Joined: December 21, 2010	I'm a relatively new fan, having only been actively playing Sonic games for about nine months, and I picked up S3&K for the first time around the same time as Sonic Adventure and other more recent games. The two games seemed to have characters that were very similar to their counterparts in the other game, except for one: Knuckles. Before the Sonic Adventure redesign, Knuckles still appeared somewhat headstrong and stubborn, but he didn't seem to me like the annoying, egotistical macho-man he is today. I personally think Knuckles' new incarnation is more annoyingly tough (or at least thinks he is) than he needs to be. I personally like Knuckles' previous form better, both during gameplay (he didn't scream "TAKE THIS!" in that rough, gritty voice before attacking like he does now) and as a character (his arrogance and tough-guy attitude really gets on my nerves.) So what do you think? Which incarnation of him suits your tastes better? or ?
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Phoenix-Saturn	Apr 1 2011, 01:37 PM Post #2
i just wwant to be beautiful for this one month Posts: 7,528 Group: A Rank Legend Member #10,191 Joined: July 27, 2009	Well, considering Knux didn't really have much of a personality other than "Mr. Chuckles" in S3 and K... I personally think he kinda became more and more guillible and stupid as time went by after Sonic X.
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Tammy	Apr 1 2011, 01:45 PM Post #3
Lava Reef Act 1 Posts: 2,605 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,015 Joined: May 29, 2009	Thing is, Knuckles hasn't been tricked by Eggman since Adventure 1, so I don't know why people are still calling him gullible. It even says in Zero Gravity's manual that Knuckles is no longer fooled by Eggy's tricks. And as for a macho tough guy, I don't think he's ever really played that up too much from what I remember. Can you give any examples, please?



742 mph	Apr 1 2011, 01:55 PM Post #4
Strange, isn't it? Posts: 249 Group: C Rank Guardian Member #11,677 Joined: December 21, 2010	Talon Apr 1 2011, 01:45 PM Thing is, Knuckles hasn't been tricked by Eggman since Adventure 1, so I don't know why people are still calling him gullible. It even says in Zero Gravity's manual that Knuckles is no longer fooled by Eggy's tricks. And as for a macho tough guy, I don't think he's ever really played that up too much from what I remember. Can you give any examples, please? I never called him gullible. As for when he was acting unnessecarily tough, just pick an episode of Sonic X. Any episode (with him in it.) He gets angry so darn easily. In the games, Knuckles would yell like a maniac when you were using his formation in Sonic Heroes ("SHAA! AARGH! TAKE THIS!") and his running sprites in Sonic Advance 1, 2, (and 3? I've never played it) look absolutely fuming with anger/insanity, to name a few examples. Plus, the deep, gritty voice implies the personality, even if you didn't know what he acts like. Edited by 742 mph, Apr 1 2011, 01:56 PM.
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Terios	Apr 1 2011, 02:08 PM Post #5
Angel Island Act 1 Posts: 31 Group: E Rank Adventurer Member #11,948 Joined: March 30, 2011	Honestly, since the beginning Knuckles was always fooled. After the whole little Chaos thing, in Sonic Adventure 1, I think he grew a pair, and decided to try not to put, too much trust into anybody, especially Robotnik after all the trick's he's pulled on him. I honestly like the new Knuckles better, as well, as he seem just a bit more bad@$$ than he was before, which I think Sonic Team, was always aiming at, but just couldn't execute very well. The older Knuckles personality, was just a little bland to me, but he's still one of my favorite characters either way.
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Sally Acorn	Apr 1 2011, 09:17 PM Post #6
Angel Island Act 1 Posts: 45 Group: E Rank Adventurer Member #10,057 Joined: June 13, 2009	I hate what Sega has done to Knuckles. They took his one of his character traits(being gullible)and overplayed it to the point where he comes across as being really really stupid especially in "Sonic X". Nowadays the Knuckles that appears in the "Archie Sonic" comics is the only verison of Knuckles that is not completely stupid.



Neo Metallix	Apr 2 2011, 07:03 AM Post #7
~Doomsday Overlord~ Posts: 15,568 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: Doc_Of_D Game Currently Playing: Tales of Xillia	I preferred his older image in S3&K. He was the anti-hero and seemed more bad. In newer games I don't see him as much different than Tails, as in being Sonic's friend. Shadow kind of took over Knuckle's old personality but even his persona is changed from what it originally was in Sonic Adventure 2.
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Lord Eileanach	Apr 2 2011, 09:33 AM Post #8
. . . Posts: 2,778 Group: Former Monarchs Member #10,054 Joined: June 13, 2009 Gender: Male Country: Brazil Steam ID: Eileanach	Hmm, Knuckles to me seemed like he was the strong, stoic, silent type when I first met him in Sonic 3 and Knuckles. He did fall for Robotnik's tricks but I guess we have to assume Robotnik was charismatic enough to sway Knuckles so let's face it I am sure a charismatic person could sway us to believe something about someone we've never met before. Knuckles isn't as gullible any more, for sure, but his personality has indeed changed like Metallix said Shadow has kind of taken Knuckles old personality over and Knuckles is left as a friend and rival, although he doesn't really do a lot as far as "rivalry" is concerned. I did prefer the older style Knuckles as he did have a bit of oomf to his character and was more interesting, now he comes across as a bit of a nut really he blows his stack far too easily and just "hangs around" like a bit of a spare wheel.
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Lady BlizShadow	Apr 2 2011, 10:59 AM Post #9
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	I didn't grow up with S&K in my house, so my limited exposure to Knuckles in S3 made me consider him nothing short of an idiotic a-hole. Thanks for impeding my progress throughout your island while Eggman proceeds to continue taking over. I was glad when he got his comeuppance in Launch Base, because then I could do my job without worrying about some jerk activating a damn trap door. It was only until SA1 rolled around and they gave everyone more distinguishing personalities that Knuckles came on my radar, and that I could slightly understand his motivation for being a jerk. But that plot thread was pretty much dropped after that. Knuckles hasn't been tricked since, so what does it matter? As a result, they've relied on other traits, extending his trusting nature into a general ignorance of higher concepts, but not at the expense of his sixth senses or topographical expertise, and keeping up his general annoyance of Sonic. Frankly, I like him better this way; He has a more layered personality, and I have facepalmed far less at Knuckles in recent games than I did during his classic period. I'm not even getting into Sonic X. It's not canon to the games and everyone was Flanderized anyways, not just Knuckles.
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Leafy	Apr 2 2011, 11:42 AM Post #10
Ahh, spring~ Posts: 199 Group: E Rank Guardian Member #11,512 Joined: October 20, 2010	Whenever one of these "Knuckles r stoopid noaw" topics come up, I always wait for BlizShadow to put a word in. She always is able to explain Knuckles best. Knuckles in 3&K struck me as an annoying, not-to-bright pest. He beat Sonic up, stole the emeralds, and then kept dropping him in pits or sending him flying all over the place for a couple zones for no apparent reason at all. That, to me, is the essence of an unlikeable character. I do like how Knuckles is portrayed now; he's not very street smart, but wise in other ways. However, in certain titles (namely Sonic 06/Heroes), he comes across more as Sonic's sidekick as opposed to a friendly rival, but that hasn't been seen as a problem within recent games.
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Phoenix-Saturn	Apr 2 2011, 12:54 PM Post #11
i just wwant to be beautiful for this one month Posts: 7,528 Group: A Rank Legend Member #10,191 Joined: July 27, 2009	Personally, I just think Knux is just not very in touch with people. Which is understandable since he spend however many years on an island by himself. Thus his trusting nature. He didn't strike me as stupid in Sonic Adventure or Adventure 2, and like in Sonic X, everyone was flanderized in Heroes, so I don't count it for characterization.
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snow toilet	Apr 2 2011, 01:46 PM Post #12
Huffing Kitty Litty Posts: 796 Group: E Rank Hero Member #11,631 Joined: December 7, 2010 Gender: Male Playstation Network ID: SnowToilet Nintendo ID: MegaVectorman Game Currently Playing: Parasite Eve	i prefer the new style. he seems more tough and has more attitude to the way he moves. since he just seemed like an anti hero in s3&k and more of a prominent hero in chaotix there wasnt too much that could describe his image. SA kind of did that for me. ever since then ive seen knuckles as less of an anti hero and more of a tough guy.



Breezy	Apr 2 2011, 04:39 PM Post #13
We all make choices. But in the end, our choices make us Posts: 2,868 Group: E Rank Legend Member #10,732 Joined: February 3, 2010 Game Currently Playing: The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap	clears throat Since this topic is about one of, if not, ,my favorite character I suppose I should put my two cents in. First off, I do not consider anything from Sonic X canon. So the Knuckles in that anime just doesn't sway my opinion. I just consider it a....bad, bad alternate universe. There really isn't much I can say to defend him, considering how they make him look now in recent games. Im a hardcore Adventure series fan and Knuckles at the time seemed (beside him being gullible), level headed and wise. He had a purpose and even though he wasn't too sure of the past behind this powerful gem he was destined to protect, he was going to fulfill his duty to the end. Who knows who is the one that protects the Master Emerald now that Knuckles seems to be tagging along so much more in Sonic's adventures.
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742 mph	Apr 2 2011, 05:23 PM Post #14
Strange, isn't it? Posts: 249 Group: C Rank Guardian Member #11,677 Joined: December 21, 2010	Leafy Apr 2 2011, 11:42 AM Whenever one of these "Knuckles r stoopid noaw" topics come up, I always wait for BlizShadow to put a word in. She always is able to explain Knuckles best. Knuckles in 3&K struck me as an annoying, not-to-bright pest. He beat Sonic up, stole the emeralds, and then kept dropping him in pits or sending him flying all over the place for a couple zones for no apparent reason at all. That, to me, is the essence of an unlikeable character. I do like how Knuckles is portrayed now; he's not very street smart, but wise in other ways. However, in certain titles (namely Sonic 06/Heroes), he comes across more as Sonic's sidekick as opposed to a friendly rival, but that hasn't been seen as a problem within recent games. You're implying that I'm a noob now? Really, I have my reasons why I liked Knuckles better back then, and if you don't agree with them, don't call me a noob/troll/whatever term you prefer like that.
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Rene	Apr 2 2011, 09:39 PM Post #15
Marble Garden Act 1 Posts: 136 Group: B Rank Adventurer Member #11,562 Joined: November 14, 2010	Ah, old time Knuckles... I loved him. Annoying pest, indeed, but a charming annoying pest to me. It's a thin line to balance on, I'll admit. I kind of see myself in that Knuckles, especially with that chuckle of his (today, unlike Sonic he doesn't chuckle) whenever he lured Sonic and Tails into a trap. That's just adorable <3 However, I like his recent portrayal as well. I think his old portrayal works poorly with dialogue, so it's a change they made neither for the better nor the worse, but for the necessity, I think. I fail to see how a trickster could be handled by Sega and still not actually be a villain.



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