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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 27 2011, 07:51 PM (1,237 Views) | |
| SXR123 | Jan 27 2011, 07:51 PM Post #1 |
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I've had something similar to this awhile back, it was a question asking if Sega should make movies instead of games. Well I'm bringing it back up... in a way... So my question stands, instead of a new sonic game, should they make a movie instead? I mean after seeing that "night of the werehog" movie they do animation that rivals that of pixar, and they're good at animated movies! so again, instead of a new game why not a new movie? |
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| SirDoodlesAlot | Jan 27 2011, 08:27 PM Post #2 |
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It depends, do you mean instead of the next game a movie or drop games and make movies? |
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| SXR123 | Jan 27 2011, 08:28 PM Post #3 |
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my first question was to just drop games all together and make movies, but then I decided just once, instead of a game why not a movie? I mean the first movie was definitely successful, and night of the werehog was just epic, even for 11 minutes, it was just expertly animated. |
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| SirDoodlesAlot | Jan 27 2011, 08:33 PM Post #4 |
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Well i have never had any problems with any Sonic games. But i have always wanted to see another movie. But i would be sad if they stopped with the games because they are now getting better and better. |
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| SXR123 | Jan 27 2011, 08:43 PM Post #5 |
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well like I said, not just dropping the games all together, just taking a break from one and making a full length feature film that goes in theaters instead of just online. Not just one that'll advertise a new game. |
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| SirDoodlesAlot | Jan 27 2011, 08:45 PM Post #6 |
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That would be amazing. |
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| Havoc The Tenrec | Jan 27 2011, 09:06 PM Post #7 |
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For me it's kind of "Do not want" and "Want". I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be handled the right way...but part of me would like to see it anyway. Though, if it turned into a flop...which it probably would, it would kind of put a longer nail in Sonic's current coffin. Edited by Havoc The Tenrec, Jan 27 2011, 09:23 PM.
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| Lady BlizShadow | Jan 27 2011, 09:19 PM Post #8 |
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For Sega themselves to completely forgo a game and to make a movie would probably not be the best strategy. For one, there's the costs involved-- Professional 3D feature-length films of Pixar and Dreamworks caliber will easily run you into the hundreds of millions of dollars, not including the marketing campaigns behind them. Games don't have such budgets-- GTA4 seems to be the exception, but it only caps out at $100 million from what I've read. Sonic games for various reasons have decidedly lower budgets; I think Unleashed in all of its glory was only a $10 million affair. Part of the reason animation is so expensive is the time invested in the actual production. Excluding the possibility of your pre-production being blessed with the Disney Privilege of having years and years of time to develop, the actual animation process is still more laborious and heavily specialized between large groups of people. This is due partly to the fact that theatrical animation is all about acting and natural performances whereas game animation is more reactionary, brief, and unnatural-- It has to be in response to your button mashing. Game animation also has the advantage of needing comparatively little rendering due to the fact that it runs in real time. However, it took years and the creation of new rendering and rigging systems for film companies just to to be able to animate hair properly. Good animation doesn't simply come about on a whim. Then there's current trends. In short, no one likes movies based on games because the majority of them have been decidedly awful. Our current savior is Prince of Persia, and that only got a resounding "okay" from critical outlets. Couple that with the fact that the Sonic series still has a pretty mediocre reputation even after his stellar time last year, then it's only inevitable that the effort be considered an odorous one by distributors. When that happens, you get some no-name distributor that doesn't market the film well and it's Advent Children all over again, which means a ton of money lost because you decided to invest in a $200+ million affair instead of maybe a $10 million one that you can not only distribute yourself, but also guarantee to see healthy returns on because you already have a large base of Sonic nuts that will buy any game you put out. In short, Sega themselves should stick to making games right now. If they wanted to see a Sonic film though, they'd do better to give the rights to a good animation company instead of taking on the whole endeavor themselves. |
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| Havoc The Tenrec | Jan 27 2011, 09:34 PM Post #9 |
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The marketing for that did suck. But the movie was aimed at people who've already played through the 1997 game,I don't see how much it would appeal to anyone else. I'm sure they knew that , so doing a lot of marketing would'nt have helped much more for their case. They really should've just retold the original story and sent it to theaters. Edited by Havoc The Tenrec, Jan 27 2011, 09:35 PM.
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| SXR123 | Jan 27 2011, 09:38 PM Post #10 |
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wow... long reply... well if you've ever seen night of the werehog I'm sure you'd say differently about the animation part, sure it costs a truckload of money to produce but if they can get a script, a good one, maybe JUST MAYBE it might help put sonic on top of the video game character movie bests. Like sonic the hedgehog, sure it wasn't a movie that rocked the world with it's awesomeness but it was still a good one, and if they can come up with a script like that a story that isn't mediocre and actually had time put into it sonic might just have a hit on his hands, then they can go back to making games. Sure, movies are a risky buisness, but risks are something you'll have to take in order to be successful, and I say if there's even the slightest chance for a great sonic movie, like night of the werehog (still can't get over that epic animation) then they should go for it. If not, continue with the games. |
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| Lady BlizShadow | Jan 27 2011, 10:04 PM Post #11 |
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It's not uncommon for films to be marketed in a way that is inconsistent with their actual content for that very reason. The Road is a very notable example, featuring footage specifically filmed for its trailers to make it seem like yet another action-adventure post-apocalyptic film, when really all it was was some guy wandering around deserted landscapes with his kid. At the end of the day, marketing is just there to plant butts in seats and make the fat cats happy, and probably more than it is to tell the public what the actual film is about. @ X TH: I've seen Night of the Werehog many, many, many times and I'm even a bit knowledgeable of its actual production processes. However, NotW was a promotional 11-minute short whose finances were probably included in Unleashed's entire marketing budget as a whole, it was distributed on the Internet, on XBL, and in a few Japanese theaters, and its animation wasn't exactly Pixar's level. The OVA's worse-- Two low-budget 30 minute shorts spliced together and distributed on VHS and DVD with absolutely no real marketing whatsoever. Neither example's an apples-to-apples comparison as to what an actual feature-length film intended for a competitive, wide international release would require from Sega. Also, being successful in Hollywood isn't based entirely on quality. Hollywood is a cutthroat business where companies will kill their own films, not a fantasy land where every Picasso of script-writing gets the respect he deserves. You need money and you need a distributor that has faith in your material. Without that, it is exceedingly difficult to get anything off the ground regardless of any actual quality. If Sega could manage Hollywood successfully simply on the merit of their work, then that's an unusual success story, yet one I would be behind. But considering film expenses easily surpass those of most games as well as the fact that video game films and the Sonic franchise aren't exactly en vogue right now, Sega would be financially smart to simply make Colors 2 and call it a day. |
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| milenko | Jan 28 2011, 02:19 AM Post #12 |
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i for once think it would be nice to see another sonic movie |
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| Lord Eileanach | Jan 28 2011, 08:27 AM Post #13 |
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I would love to see a new Sonic film as long as it is done well and not made too childish. I know little kiddies like Sonic but so do older folk sheesh give us a bit of story to grapple with. I don't think it would be a good idea for SEGA to drop making games though, I think they should stick to the game making and have a decent director/film company who like Sonic make the film. |
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| D-Metal X | Jan 28 2011, 03:54 PM Post #14 |
TIME TO REALLY EXPLODE!
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I guess 3D animation has come a long way, but I always preferred Sonic in traditional animation. It just seems like a 2D medium is better suited for a dynamic, fluid series like Sonic. And I'm saying this with little to no knowledge of animation. *waits for head to get bitten off* =P It would also be more economically feasible to make a 2D movie, I would guess. But with the costs of marketing, eh. I have no idea, really. =P But the brand name of Sonic combo'd with such a movie likely being good for kids could earn some decent revenue, IMO. But in the end, SEGA shouldn't make it. Give it to another company and oversee them, I'd say. On the other hand, I'd say SEGA should stick with short 3D vignettes, like Night of the Werehog. I didn't care for it, but I can certainly acknowledge that it was animated quite nicely. Did SEGA even make it? I dunno. Anyway, the point of my rambling is that I'd much rather see a 2D movie about Sonic than 3D. =P Edited by D-Metal X, Jan 28 2011, 03:56 PM.
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Jan 28 2011, 06:34 PM Post #15 |
I object to your claims
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The OVA wasn't even that succesful to begin with. I liked it, but I found it decidedly average overall. The Night of the Werehog was a hell of a lot better, but still, it was just an 11 minute promotional film. *shrugs* Wouldn't mind seeing a traditionally-animated Sonic movie though. |
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