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PSP2: Next Generation Portable
Topic Started: Jan 26 2011, 11:20 PM (1,319 Views)
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It's going to be a pretty good bit thicker, of that I am certain..

and yes it is technology that has SORT of been done before. But just not this small, any time you have advanced tech crammed in a small device, it will come with a price.. and all of this power combined with touch screens and cameras and such.. I can't see the cheapest model being any less than $399 and that's a generous dumb down of what the price will likely be (probably $459 to $499). There's no way it will be on par with the 3DS as far as price is concerned because there just isn't that horsepower in the Nintendo handheld, and the PSP will likely be the more online functional machine which will drive its price up.

Codemasters is just saying what Sony gamers want to hear.. The Sony I know rarely sells products for a loss.. let alone a HUGE loss.


It is actually less thick than the original PSP and that is going by official specs. It's only longer and taller. All of this technology has been used in mobile devices in some form or another before.

As for the power of it, you do realize that many mobile devices already have better graphics in them than the 3DS? The 3DS is as powerful as a GameCube/PS2 if not slightly more but even that is behind current mobile technology. I'm not concerned because Sony is using off the shelf parts for it, they're just using another companies chips that are already in production.

Apparently you don't know Sony very well at all. Sony always takes a huge loss on their consoles. PS1, PS2, PS3 all took a loss. The PS3 took a $200+ dollar loss when it came out(it was $600 when it was over $800 to produce). PS1 took a big loss to make it $100 cheaper than the Saturn.

They will take a loss on it and it probably won't be as astronomically expensive as you claim. $400 is just not realistic. Realistically the low end model will be $250 to $300. You do realize that the original PSP was just as far ahead of its time in power when it came out and was only $250 right? In 2005 the PSP was a beast and had mind-blowing graphics for a handheld.

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The OLED and Flash-based storage is what sexes me up for this console. Touchscreen is good. They're going all out. That seems like it would cost like $1,000.00!


The only thing that concerns me is the OLED screen but I'm fairly certain that the iPod Touch uses that screen. Flash-based storage is pretty much the same thing the DS uses, but I'm sure this will have a much bigger storage capacity. I personally was hoping for a Mini Blu Ray or something.
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Well, Mini-Blu-Ray would be faster (but for Sony, easier to pirate things onto.), but I think Flash carts would be reliable. Still, Mini Blu-Ray would definitely seems HARD CORE, which is what Sony was trying to go for. What's wrong with OLED, Metallix?
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OLED is a great technology but it's still fairly new and OLED televisions are quite pricey. That's the only technology it uses that concerns me but if the iTouch uses it, then I can see prices driven down quickly since it's being used by many manufacturers.
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Nyeeeeh. I dunno about this, Davey. The touch screen thing is so-so for me (I use the buttons on the DS when I can usually) but it does seem to have some impressive features. The ablity to play PS3 games remotely seems awesome, although how they're going to make that work well is beyond me. Still, I'd totally be up for playing BlazBlue: Continuum Shift where ever I go.

At the end of the day, I'll be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes, but it's not on my "must have" list just yet.
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I agree with you Chaos. I prefer to have to use buttons the touch screen functionality does not interest me in the slightest so I will be happier if it has more "control" functions as well. It isn't on my "must have" list either but I will be watching it as I am intrigued by Sony's attempts to steal the market from Nintendo in the hand-held department.
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I agree with you Chaos. I prefer to have to use buttons the touch screen functionality does not interest me in the slightest so I will be happier if it has more "control" functions as well. It isn't on my "must have" list either but I will be watching it as I am intrigued by Sony's attempts to steal the market from Nintendo in the hand-held department.
That's what I like about it the use of motion controls/touch screen is optional, unlike the DS or 3DS that forces you to use it. In Uncharted you can use motion controls and touch screen/pad but you don't have to. You could just play the game completely with the joysticks and buttons. Personally it isn't on my "must have" list yet either, but neither is the 3DS.
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Actually... that comes down to the game in question with the DS. A lot of the earlier titles insisted on Stylus controls since the control method was new and that's what folks were buying one for. Nowdays, I've found very few games force you to use it and simply offer it as an alternative. Golden Sun: Dark Dawn was one such title. It was designed with Touch Screen control in mind, but it can be easily played with the buttons alone.

With the DSi there are a few things that demand Stylus control (Photo Viewer and the Music Player come to mind), but a lot of it works fine with just buttons.

But I suppose that's a discussion for another topic, hm? :P
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Actually... that comes down to the game in question with the DS. A lot of the earlier titles insisted on Stylus controls since the control method was new and that's what folks were buying one for. Nowdays, I've found very few games force you to use it and simply offer it as an alternative. Golden Sun: Dark Dawn was one such title. It was designed with Touch Screen control in mind, but it can be easily played with the buttons alone.

With the DSi there are a few things that demand Stylus control (Photo Viewer and the Music Player come to mind), but a lot of it works fine with just buttons.

But I suppose that's a discussion for another topic, hm? :P
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Yeah, touch screens for games isn't really necessary. I'm not even sure I've played a game that actually improved the experience, except for angry birds.
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Too many portables coming out, i got got an iPhone 4
I do like the 3DS games......but Uncharted=BUY
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Yeah, see, Sony didn't go all out on the NGP and make it horrendously expensive. They admit to having to remove features to keep the cost down.

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Sony's NGP is a feature packed handheld with a high-quality screen and numerous control methods, but Sony says it has had to cut out a number of "cool" elements in order to ensure the final product is affordable.

Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studios, told Edge: "I can't talk about a definitive price at this stage. But since the very beginning we had a target in mind. So, when considering various features, we always had our price range in mind.

"There were elements that we found pretty cool, but had to set aside to remain on target. It's a big lesson we learnt from the PS3. There's no point putting everything you want into a device and doing the math later. We always had the price and consumer in mind. We had to sell something that people could buy."

Yoshida also acknowledged that Sony "can't sell the NGP for the same price as a PSP".





Edge also had some Praise for the handheld.
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Respected gaming bible Edge has published its hands-on Sony NGP impressions - and it has tall praise for the PSP successor.

"Based on our hands-on time with the device following the presentation in Tokyo, we can confirm that Sony's 'Next Generation Portable' feels considerably larger than previous PSP models," the mag writes, adding that the lack in pocket friendliness is a "fair trade-off for the spectacular five-inch OLED display".

"Despite the larger dimensions, the handheld console is actually thinner than a PSP," it adds. "It's hard to believe such power is contained in such a slim form factor, especially without giving off any heat."

Edge goes on to call the NGP's 'Super Oval' shape "very comfortable", "robust" and "high quality".

The biggest praise however is aimed at the NGP's dual thumbsticks: "The analogue sticks are the best ever implemented in a portable device, giving the feel of using a genuine DualShock controller, with all the granularity of input you'd expect," it gushes.

Edge's comments echo those of Epic man Cliff Bleszinski, who had similar praise for the PSP successor's thumbsticks.





It also looks like the PSP won't be going anywhere just because the new handheld is launching...
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Sony isn't interested in ditching older hardware simply because updated versions arrive.

Lest we forget, the PS2 was going strong until just last year, which means it continued on for four years (so far) beyond the launch of the PS3. Therefore, you shouldn't expect the PSP to disappear when the new portable - currently dubbed the Next Generation Portable - hits store shelves. President of Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studios Shuhei Yoshida told Edge that the NGP and PSP will coexist in the market. He says it just wouldn't make any sort of business sense to kill off the original PSP because currently, Sony is "struggling" to meet rising consumer demand.

"The NGP features everything Sony can and wants to do today. It's a platform looking forward with great ambition. It can't replace a platform that has already been on sale for seven years now. In terms of pricing, we can't sell the NGP for the same price as a PSP. The PSP has become very affordable and popular, especially with younger generations.

I think the NGP needs time to mature and get adopted by users. So, for the time being, both platforms will coexist."

Makes perfect sense to us. The PSP might be a gateway to the NGP for later adopters, anyway. For our part, we're just psyched to see that new handheld; it looks to be a beast of a device, and it's all sorts of cutting-edge. Leave it to Sony.
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And here's a good size comparison. It's not TOO much bigger than the original 1000k PSP and about as thin as a PSP 3000k.

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I'll buy an NGP in a heartbeat if it releases with PSTwo Classics.
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Hmm...

It looks kinda cool if ya ask me. But there are no games on that confirmed list htat catch my interest. I'll wait and see what comes out when I can actually afford a new console to decide whether I'll be getting this or a 3DS.
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I'll buy an NGP in a heartbeat if it releases with PSTwo Classics.
That's kind of funny there are rumors that PS2 classics will be available for download sometime in the future on PSN. I don't know if it's true but it would be awesome. I'd prefer the disc version to play on my PS3 but for handheld you obviously need a digital form.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289103/news/psp-getting-ps2-classics-download-service/

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It looks kinda cool if ya ask me. But there are no games on that confirmed list htat catch my interest. I'll wait and see what comes out when I can actually afford a new console to decide whether I'll be getting this or a 3DS.


As far as new games go, Little Deviants looks pretty awesome. Pretty unique way to control the game. I think they both have a quality line up, however the 3DS is comprised of a lot of ports of old games.....
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