Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games

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Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
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Lady BlizShadow	Jan 22 2009, 04:57 PM Post #1
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	OVERVIEW Name: Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games Developer: Sega of Japan Publisher: SEGA (NA, EU), Nintendo (JP) Genre: Sports/Party Platform: Nintendo Wii and Nintendo DS Rating: ESRB: E (Mild cartoon violence) PEGI: 3+ Release Dates: NA: October 13, 2009 AUS: October 15, 2009 EU: October 16, 2009 Official Website: NA/EU Website JP Website GAMEPLAY PRESS RELEASE FEATURES Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games continues the tradition of its predecessor by allowing one to play as various Mario and Sonic characters in authentic Olympic events. However, the single and multiplayer modes as well as the game's additional features have been been given considerable depth. Click the spoiler tab for the complete list of features for each respective version. WII: Spoiler: click to toggle Quote: Plenty of events: Prepare to compete in the Olympic Winter Games with your friends and family! A variety of Dream Events offer surprising objects and new character-specific moves. Sharpen your team-playing skills with new simultaneous cooperative play and get your fill of head-to-head rivalry in the popular competitive events. Choose your favorite Mario and Sonic characters: Play as your favorite characters from the world of Mario and Sonic, including Luigi, Tails, Yoshi, Knuckles, Peach, and Amy, each with unique moves and stats. A few new faces, like Donkey Kong and Metal Sonic, have also been added to the mix! Play like the real thing: Simulate real-life movements using intuitive controls on the Wii remote/Nunchuk and Wii Balance Board. Skate, ski, and snowboard your way to glory, with single and multi-player (competitive and cooperative), offering fun for players of all ages and skill levels! Multiple Gameplay Modes: Compete in single events in the individual mode and team mode, or challenge your friends to an entire Olympic competition! A new Wii-exclusive "Festival Mode" also allows you to experience the full competitive Olympic campaign (single and multi-player). This includes new "Boss" competitions against unique Mario and Sonic characters. SHOPPING Play, Collect, and Shop-- Customize your Olympic Winter Games experience! As you play the Olympic Winter Games, you'll earn Star Tokens based on your performance. Visit the various sops at the village and purchase different items with the Star Tokens you accumulate: Boutique: Buy costumes for your Mii! Have fun customizing your Mii's clothing, gloves, shoes, and hats. Sports Shop: Equipment, including your skis, snowboard, and even bobsleigh, can be customized with character stickers. Music Shop: Check out and get some fun Mario and Sonic tunes! Library: Everything you wanted to know at your fingertips... here is your chance to find out more facts about the Olympic Winter Games! Secret Shop: This mysterious shop awaits your discovery! DS: Spoiler: click to toggle Quote: Plenty of events: Prepare to compete for gold in the Olympic Winter Games! Not only can you enjoy all of the Olympic Winter sports, but a variety of Dream Events offer new character-specific moves and surprising objects from the worlds of Mario and Sonic. Get your fill of head-to-head rivalry in competitive events, or sharpen your individual skills in single play. Choose your favorite Mario and Sonic characters: Play as your favorite characters from the world of Mario and Sonic, including Luigi, Tails, Yoshi, Knuckles, Peach, and Amy, each with unique movements and stats. A few new faces, like Donkey Kong and Metal Sonic, have also been added to the mix! Easy to use controls: With intuitive and easy to pick up and play controls, using the stylus buttons, or D-pad will become second nature as you compete for gold! Wi-Fi rankings and wireless functionalities add to the single and competitive multi-player fun! Also, you friends can download events from a single cartridge, so prepare to play with them anytime, anywhere! Multiple modes of play: Compete in single events in the individual mode and with your friends in multiplayer mode. Multi-Round Matches also add variety to the fun! Also, the new DS-exclusive "Adventure Tours" offers you a mission-based story for a more in-depth and rich single-player experience. This promises you an exciting adventure filled with diverse missions, boss encounters, and a chance to save the 2010 Olympic Winter Games. ADVENTURE TOURS Looking for an exciting adventure filled with diverse missions, boss encounters and a chance to save the 2010 Olympic Winter Games? Developed exclusively for the Nintendo DS users, Adventure Tours allows you to experience a new in-depth story mode! The Adventure: Mario and Sonic have arrived at the Olympic Winter Games-- ready to start the competition. To their surprise, the now is gone! Bowser and Dr. Eggman have started on their evil plot to stop the Olympic Winter Games by capturing the snow spirits who make the snow fall. Luckily, there is still one area left with snow. You, as Mario or Sonic, must complete numerous missions and rescue the snow spirits to make sure the Olympic Winter games can continue! Along the way, you'll encounter characters that can help you collect information about new areas and find items during your adventure. At the end of the journey, you will all need to band together as a team to defeat the biggest boss of them all! EVENTS Like its predecessor, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games features a large selection of events that faithfully recreate the experience of the real Winter Olympics events alongside the Dream Events, a selection of more fantastical games that take place within well-known locales of the Mario and Sonic universes. Click the spoiler to see a list of both the main and Dream events. Spoiler: click to toggle OFFICIAL EVENTS Speed Skating (Wii): Find your rhythm and be the best! Skate around an icy track against an opponent. The key to win will be to maintain an even pace as you wave your arm and use the Wii Remote, moving similar to real speed skater. Be sure to sprint on the final straight-away towards the finish! Snowboard Half-Pipe (Wii): Ready to defy gravity? Get ready for some airtime on a snowboard in a half-pipe ramp and reach incredible heights with your Wii Remote/Nunchuk or Wii Balance Board! While in the air, perform a wide range of tricks to get the most points. Ice Hockey (Wii/DS): Pass, shoot, and score your way to victory! With your Wii Remote/Nunchuk in hand, help your team get the puck past the other team's goaltender and into the net, similar to soccer. By passing consecutively to teammates, charge-up the power in your puck for a better shot! Alpine Skiing (Wii/DS): Reach high speeds as you travel down a vertical drop down a snow-covered mountain and through a series of gates. Stay closer to the flags using the Wii Remote/Nunchuk or Wii Balance Board and you might accelerate faster and get a faster time! Activate your boost at the right time and speed past your opponents! Bobsleigh (Wii/DS): Jump into your bobsleigh at the precise time and shoot down an ice covered track! Whether in a single or multi-player mode, it is an incredibly fast descent. Use your Wii Remote or Wii Balance Board to steer down the sharp turns. Snowboard Cross (Wii/DS): Race against three others down slopes of rolling terrain and ramps! Use the button controls and D-pad to maneuver well. You'll have to drift through turns, ride in the slipstream of your opponents and get boosts in the jumps to see who's the fastest! Figure Skating Singles (Wii/DS): Prepare to step, jump, spin and perform combinations set to beautiful music! Agility, balance, and skill are all required as you gracefully dance with skates on ice. With Wii Remote in hand, scores are based on your overall technique and presentation. Skeleton (DS): Dive head first lying face-down on a sled into a tube of ice and reach incredible speeds! Use your stylus to steer smoothly through each turn and use your boost at the right time in straight-aways to keep your speed high. Curling Ski Jump Biathlon DREAM EVENTS Dream Ski Cross (Wii): Taking elements from the Mario universe, Item Boxes, Piranha Plants, Goombas, and other unique items await as you go head-to-head against three skiers. Use your Wii Balance Board or Wii Remote/Nunchuk like ski poles and race to the finish line! Dream Snowball Fight (Wii): Duck or get throwing! Similar to dodgeball, play tournament style as a team of four using your Wii Remote/Nunchuck. You'll be able to hide behind brick barriers to get out of incoming snowballs, but beware Bullet Bill! With Mario World elements including Item Boxes and power-ups, this event truly heats up the competition! Dream Alpine (Wii): With giant loop-de-loops, ramp jumps, and giant rolling hears, ski against three other competitors through a fun-filled fantastical stage reminiscent of the Sonic world. Pass properly through the red and yellow flags and get ready to dash! Watch out though... Dr. Eggman's robot minions will surely try to get in your way! Extreme Snowboarding (DS): With four players in all, race down slopes of rolling terrain and increase your boost meter by performing tricks on the jumps! As you come across power-ups and obstacles from both the Mario and Sonic universes, use the button controls and D-pad to continue the fun and win the race! Ski Cross Racing (DS): With a mass start of four skiers, the stage is set for fast and exciting competition! The course, designed to test your stylus control skills, incorporates a variety of turns, as well as rolls, banks and ridges. To add to the fun, look out for Item Boxes, Rings, Piranha Plants, Goombas, and Boost Pads! Fever Hockey (DS): There's more to it this time than passing, shooting and scoring your way to victory... Aim at specific areas of the rink to release various items, including the Super Star, Chaos Emeralds and bombs, and increase the value of a goal. Using your stylus, make consecutive passes and you'll be able to perform a power shot! Dream Bobsleigh Dream Figure Skating ROSTER Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games features the entire cast from the original game as well as a number of newcomers from each franchise, each with their own strengths, weaknesses, and special maneuvers on both versions. Extra characters also appear in the form of boss or "rival" characters. Click the spoilers to see the entire roster: Team SONIC Spoiler: click to toggle Sonic The Hedgehog Spoiler: click to toggle Sonic the Hedgehog is the blue hedgehog that moves at Sonic speed who joins Mario as they go head-to-head at the Olympic Winter Games! Armed with his signature attitude and Spin Dash ability on the Wii and DS, and Jump Dash ability on the DS, Sonic brings a new level of competition to the Olympic Winter games as his team goes for gold in Vancouver! Miles "Tails" Prower Spoiler: click to toggle Miles "Tails" Prower is Sonic's best friend and always at his side. An ace pilot and mechanic, Tails returns to the Olympic Games with the Tailspin Flight ability on the Wii and DS to spin his tails like a helicopter and propel himself in the air, as well as the Propeller Dash ability on the DS. Knuckles The Echidna Spoiler: click to toggle Knuckles the Echidna has been friend and foe to Sonic for years. He has protected the Master Emerald on Angel Island, but now has his eye on a new prize: being #1 in the Olympic Winter Games! Powerful and determined, Knuckles will be going for gold with his new Screw Driver ability on the Wii and DS, and Spiral Uppercut ability on the DS. Amy Rose Spoiler: click to toggle Amy Rose is both graceful and powerful and a valuable member of Sonic's crew. While she tends to find herself following Sonic, Amy has come to the Olympic Winter Games to be a serious competitor! With the Pink Typhoon ability on the Wii and Ds, and the Rose Spin ability on the DS, Amy hopes to win over Sonic by bringing home the gold! Metal Sonic Spoiler: click to toggle Metal Sonic is new to the world of the Olympic Games. Modelled with extreme accuracy to Sonic by Dr. Eggman, Metal Sonic is one of our blue hero's earliest foes. At the Olympic Winter Games, Metal Sonic hopes to gain an advantage with his unique ability on the Wii and DS known as the Air Boost. Shadow The Hedgehog Spoiler: click to toggle Shadow the Hedgehog, in his black fur and red stripes, returns to test his skills in the Olympic Winter Games. With the ability to harness the power of the Chaos Emerald, Shadow can perform Chaos Boost on the Wii and DS, and Chaos Control on the DS. Silver The Hedgehog Spoiler: click to toggle Silver the Hedgehog is a new competitor from Team Sonic. Coming from the distant future with telekinetic abilities, Silver's signature moves are the Levitate ability on the Wii and DS and Teleport Dash ability on the DS. Expect the unexpected when this time-travelling hedgehog takes on the Olympic Winter Games. Blaze The Cat Spoiler: click to toggle Blaze the Cat is a Princess from another dimension and defender of the Sol Emeralds. Blaze is a veteran to the Olympic Games and returns with her flaming hot Quick Tornado ability on the Wii and DS, and Quick Slide ability on the DS. Dr. Eggman Vector The Crocodile Rouge The Bat (Rival) Eggman Nega (Rival) Jet The Hawk (Rival) Team MARIO Spoiler: click to toggle Mario Spoiler: click to toggle Mario is the world's most famous plumber who has travelled from the Mushroom Kingdom to meet Sonic ni Vancouver and compete in the Olympic Winter Games. Amogst a number of his abilities, Mario brings from him his unique Spin on the Wii and DS and the Spinning Jump and Fire Fash on the DS, and is expected to show an outstanding performance in every event as an all-around player! Luigi Spoiler: click to toggle Luigi is the taller and younger twin brother of Mario. He has been on many adventures with Mario and now comes to Vancouver to compete in the ultimate winter competition. Using the Luigi Rocket technique on the Wii and DS or Green Fire Dash on the DS, he brings a unique advantage that he hopes will propel him to the top. Yoshi Spoiler: click to toggle Yoshi is Mario's friend living on Yoshi Island and usually accompanies Mario and Luigi on their adventures. Yoshi will put forward great effort in the Olympic Winter Games with his Flutter Jump ability on the Wii and DS and Thrash Dash ability on the DS. Peach Spoiler: click to toggle Peach is a princess in the Mushroom Kingdom. Although kidnapped many times by Bowser, Peach is going toe-to-toe with the other competitors in the Olympic Winter Games. Bimble and graceful, she has the unique Mid-Air Float ability on the Wii and DS, and the Princess Dash ability on the DS that allows her to join in the competition with a graceful technique. Donkey Kong Spoiler: click to toggle Donkey Kong is a new addition to Team Mario. With both strength and agility, this powerful competitor cannot wait to try his unique skills in this winter wonderland of Vancouver and Whistler. Donkey Kong comes ready for the challenge with his Spinning Kong ability on the DS and the Hand Slap Dash on the Wii and DS. Bowser Spoiler: click to toggle Bowser is Mario's arch-enemy and leader of the koopa race trying to take over the Mushroom Kingdom at every opportunity. Large and strong, this towering competitor has the Spinning Shell ability on the Wii and DS and Flame Dash ability on the DS. The snow will not slow down this member of Team Mario. You can be sure Bowser believes the gold medal has his name on it! Bowser Jr. Spoiler: click to toggle Bowser Jr. is a new addition to the Olympic Winter Games bringing with him his Back Spin Shell ability on the DS. Bowser Jr. is the son of Bowser, but don't let that fool you, he's aiming for first place and will do what it takes to get there! Daisy Spoiler: click to toggle Daisy is the princess of Sarasaland. While a bit of a tomboy, Daisy and Peach are great friends because they can relate to one another as they share the same regal status. she is also good friends with Mario and Luigi. Watch out for her flower power-- she uses her Flower Trampoline technique on the Wii and DS, and Flower Dash technique on the DS to give her an edge when competing! Wario Waluigi King Boo (Rival) Bullet Bill (Rival) Dry Bowser (Rival) REVIEWS Nintendo Power: 7/10 (Wii), 8/10 (DS) Official Nintendo Magazine: 9/10 (Wii), 9.1/10 (DS) Nintendo Life: 9/10 (Wii) Eurogamer: 8/10 (Wii) IGN: 6.5/10 (Wii) GameDaily: 6/10 (Wii) Aggregate Score: Wii: 7.6/10 DS: 9.1/10 Consensus: N/A Awards: IGN.com's Best of E3 2009: Best DS Sports Game MEDIA Screenshots Wii DS Videos: Spoiler: click to toggle Teaser Trailer Official E3 Trailer Trailer #2 Community Interview Wii Snow Sports Wii Ice Sports DS Snow Sports DS Ice Sports Wii Dream Events DS Dream Events French Boss Trailer Airport Commercial (DS Version) Magazine Scans: Nintendo Acci�n Leak ONM, Feb. Preview: 0/0.5/1/2/3/4/5\| Mar. Preview Games Master's Preview\| May: ~~0 (low quality)~~/1/2/3/4/5/6 Dandy Extreme preview Nintendo Power Reviews: Wii Review/DS Review Official Art Logo Boxart: US Wii\|CAN ver. US DS\|CAN ver. Wallpaper: Wallpaper 1: 800x600/ 1024x768/ 1280X720 Wallpaper 2: 800x600/ 1024x768/ 1280x720 Wallpaper 3: 800x600/ 1024x768/ 1280x720 Original Post Spoiler: click to toggle This GoNintendo blog entry was posted yesterday which shows the above magazine scan of a silhouetted Mario and Sonic grasping hands. The text, translated by TSSZ, reads "Who are these two and why do they come to see each other? Find out all the details on the mystery game in the next magazine. But before that, here are some clues: Games, Olympics, Cold, Its winter�". This is one of the rare GoNintendo blogs I've personally seen not full of a bunch of unsupported speculation (Remember Sega vs. Capcom?) not only because of the scan, but because IGN have also gotten ahold of the rumor and said that it's basically in the works after confirming it "independently". After the ridiculous success of the first, it's not hard to imagine that this is definitely the real deal. As such, this soon-to-be official topic will remain open for the inevitable. If the inevitable somehow turns out to be false, to the Rumors topic you shall go! Edited by BlizShadow, Dec 2 2009, 11:45 AM.
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Neo Metallix	Jan 24 2009, 02:03 PM Post #16
~Doomsday Overlord~ Posts: 15,568 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: Doc_Of_D Game Currently Playing: Tales of Xillia	BlizShadow Jan 24 2009, 09:02 AM Congrats to the few of you for holding the series to the canon standards of the two franchises when you very well know it isn't, and excusing Brawl because of its genre is just illogical when it does the exact same thing this series is doing-- crossing franchises and skewing the characters' abilities. If this and biased stereotypes against party games are the most people can find to fault the series on instead of actual gameplay issues, then it's easy to assume there isn't actually anything wrong with the first title and you're just emanating nerd rage. xP So far I haven't played a good game that mixes franchises and my main problem with the game was the horrible controls. Gameplay? Well it's just standard Olympic stuff, nothing special.
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Fenroar	Jan 24 2009, 04:02 PM Post #17
Perfectionist Posts: 3,036 Group: E Rank Legend Member #9,478 Joined: November 2, 2008 Gender: Male 3DS Friend Code: 1504-6189-5960	Sigh, guys, stop speaking for the majority. Quote: The first was a complete and utter bust What? Uh, no it didn't. It got mixed/average reviews, meaning it's not bad, and it sold well. The last Mario & Sonic game is fun to play with friends. But boring to play alone. I'll probably rent this when I invite friends over.



Beta_Ray_Banhammer	Jan 24 2009, 06:03 PM Post #18
Whitebeard Posts: 1,265 Group: A Rank Hero Member #6,471 Joined: March 5, 2008	Five bucks says the next game is Mario & Sonic at the Special Olympics.



Lord Bowie	Jan 24 2009, 11:15 PM Post #19
What is the difference between a duck? Posts: 4,799 Group: Former Monarchs Member #7,312 Joined: April 10, 2008 Playstation Network ID: Allbowdown Xbox Live Gamertag: allbowdown	I will correct myself.. to me the first was a COMPLETE AND UTTER BUST. I just couldn't stand it personally. Assume that what I generally say is from the viewpoint of my opinion because I don't try and make my opinions fact.. though I can misword things, I'm only human after all.
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VlaDDrakkeN	Jan 25 2009, 12:07 AM Post #20
The Jester Posts: 1,902 Group: S Rank Hero Member #6,850 Joined: March 22, 2008 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: VlaDDrakkeN Game Currently Playing: My New Computer	Neo Metallix is right, thats the only main reason I didnt really play the game. I sure HOPE they improve the graphics...but at least this time i have hope a certain "bat" girl will appear Crosses fingers
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Lord Master of Darkness�	Jan 25 2009, 12:07 AM Post #21
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	I quite liked the DS version. I never played the Wii version so can't comment on it, but on the DS it was made of win. I think "bad controls!" is being confused for "OMG not a joypad so I'll flail my arms around wildly and hope that'll do!" Wii encourages thinking outside the box does it not? Every experience I've had with the console has been an utter joy and I doubt that the game on Wii sucks as badly as many of you are making out.
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Lord Bowie	Jan 25 2009, 01:48 AM Post #22
What is the difference between a duck? Posts: 4,799 Group: Former Monarchs Member #7,312 Joined: April 10, 2008 Playstation Network ID: Allbowdown Xbox Live Gamertag: allbowdown	Master of Darkness Jan 25 2009, 12:07 AM I quite liked the DS version. I never played the Wii version so can't comment on it, but on the DS it was made of win. I think "bad controls!" is being confused for "OMG not a joypad so I'll flail my arms around wildly and hope that'll do!" Wii encourages thinking outside the box does it not? Every experience I've had with the console has been an utter joy and I doubt that the game on Wii sucks as badly as many of you are making out. The motion sensitivity on the Wii is both it's gift and it's curse. Some games pull it off wonderfully well and on others, most agree that the controls were messed up. Then there's Brawl which doesn't take advantage of the innovation. ^^ When it comes to the Olympic Games saga, the game has decent controls.. nothing really to bash about that for me except for them being neutral (not too good or too bad.. solid-esque I would suppose.) But for me the gameplay content and the concept just never won me over and I never enjoyed the game. However I know all games and all their elements are subject to interpretation since everyone has their opinions. The Wii game isn't horrible, but to me it is a far cry from the sales figures and publicity it got and will be getting again. I myself have no comment on the DS version since I haven't played it.. nor do I own a DS. =P Seriously, I can't wait until they announce a Curling gametype.. I can just see it coming.
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~~Sonic Adventure 2~~	Jan 25 2009, 08:09 AM Post #23
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,442 Group: Continue? Member #4,279 Joined: December 13, 2007	BlizShadow Jan 24 2009, 09:02 AM Congrats to the few of you for holding the series to the canon standards of the two franchises when you very well know it isn't, and excusing Brawl because of its genre is just illogical when it does the exact same thing this series is doing-- crossing franchises and skewing the characters' abilities. If this and biased stereotypes against party games are the most people can find to fault the series on instead of actual gameplay issues, then it's easy to assume there isn't actually anything wrong with the first title and you're just emanating nerd rage. xP But Brawl brings in many franchises into a fighting game, something that has been done several times (Marvel vs Capcom). This game is just a bad mix with boring gymnast stuff (no offense). I'd play Mario Galaxy before playing this game, now that's saying something. And the physics are wrong if Bowser can outrun Sonic. Horrible...



Lady BlizShadow	Jan 25 2009, 08:46 AM Post #24
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Brawl being a fighting game doesn't change the fact that both it and M&S are crossovers that don't reflect the characters' true abilities.
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Lord Master of Darkness�	Jan 25 2009, 10:48 AM Post #25
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	BlizShadow Jan 25 2009, 08:46 AM Brawl being a fighting game doesn't change the fact that both it and M&S are crossovers that don't reflect the characters' true abilities. Have fun convincing the stubborn, undereducated one that his opinions are mis-informed
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~~Sonic Adventure 2~~	Jan 25 2009, 11:49 AM Post #26
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,442 Group: Continue? Member #4,279 Joined: December 13, 2007	BlizShadow Jan 25 2009, 08:46 AM Brawl being a fighting game doesn't change the fact that both it and M&S are crossovers that don't reflect the characters' true abilities. Well it does help that Brawl is ACTUALLY A WORTHY GAME!



Lady BlizShadow	Jan 25 2009, 02:07 PM Post #27
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Do you really not understand how irrelevant every single rebuttal you've thought up is? I'll repeat this one more time before I just completely give up on this endeavor-- Brawl and M&S are both crossovers that skew each character's abilities for the sake of fairness. The quality nor the genre of the games doesn't change this fact at all; Nothing changes this fact. They are both doing the same thing. So to excuse one game for misrepresenting a character's abilities while condemning another on the same notion is completely illogical. *Do you understand any of this?*
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~~Sonic Adventure 2~~	Jan 25 2009, 03:02 PM Post #28
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,442 Group: Continue? Member #4,279 Joined: December 13, 2007	BlizShadow Jan 25 2009, 02:07 PM Do you really not understand how irrelevant every single rebuttal you've thought up is? I'll repeat this one more time before I just completely give up on this endeavor-- Brawl and M&S are both crossovers that skew each character's abilities for the sake of fairness. The quality nor the genre of the games doesn't change this fact at all; Nothing changes this fact. They are both doing the same thing. So to excuse one game for misrepresenting a character's abilities while condemning another on the same notion is completely illogical. *Do you understand any of this?* I understand it, but it is still not a Sonic game, either one. Brawl is it's own game. Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games is just nothing good at all... never played it, never intend too. Not only do I dislike the Mario/Sonic togetherness, the game looks mega boring.



cap	Jan 26 2009, 02:40 PM Post #29
Wired to the moon Posts: 2,049 Group: C Rank Adventurer Member #5,164 Joined: January 17, 2008	Ray Jan 25 2009, 08:09 AM BlizShadow Jan 24 2009, 09:02 AM Congrats to the few of you for holding the series to the canon standards of the two franchises when you very well know it isn't, and excusing Brawl because of its genre is just illogical when it does the exact same thing this series is doing-- crossing franchises and skewing the characters' abilities. If this and biased stereotypes against party games are the most people can find to fault the series on instead of actual gameplay issues, then it's easy to assume there isn't actually anything wrong with the first title and you're just emanating nerd rage. xP But Brawl brings in many franchises into a fighting game, something that has been done several times (Marvel vs Capcom). This game is just a bad mix with boring gymnast stuff (no offense). I'd play Mario Galaxy before playing this game, now that's saying something. And the physics are wrong if Bowser can outrun Sonic. Horrible... Gawd, your right. They should've totally made the game so that sonic and shadow win every single race, thus defeating the point of even having a competition. The results of the race should just be fixed so that, the winner of the race, is the one who selects to play as sonic the fastest. facepalm Honestly. Also, the stuff, about "not a sonic game" Well his names on it. He's on the front cover. Hes playable. It may not be a traditional sonic game, but if it were, we'd all be complaining about how we don't need another game identical to unleashed to 06. But I will admit this. Sega are milking Sonic like an obese cow. Sega don't care about the quality of their games anymore. What they care about is, making fancy trailers, getting people to buy the games, even if they're crap. So really, don't expect to see through the roof ratings for M&S winter olymipics. Expect Sega to make a game, simply because the first Mario and Sonic sold like crazy. Edited by cap, Jan 26 2009, 02:44 PM.
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Neo Metallix	Jan 26 2009, 09:02 PM Post #30
~Doomsday Overlord~ Posts: 15,568 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: Doc_Of_D Game Currently Playing: Tales of Xillia	Master of Darkness Jan 25 2009, 12:07 AM I quite liked the DS version. I never played the Wii version so can't comment on it, but on the DS it was made of win. I think "bad controls!" is being confused for "OMG not a joypad so I'll flail my arms around wildly and hope that'll do!" Wii encourages thinking outside the box does it not? Every experience I've had with the console has been an utter joy and I doubt that the game on Wii sucks as badly as many of you are making out. That's where many people go wrong with the Wii... Moving your controller to control something does not require you think anymore out the box than a game pad.. It's just a different way to control what's going on in the screen. It's like saying the Eyetoy required you to think outside the box, no it just makes you use different controls. Just because it's a motion controller, doesn't mean they get it right all the time. There are many games with bad controls on the Wii like there are many games on any other system with bad controls. Maybe I'm biased because I will never touch a sports game(I prefer to play them in real life), but I've always steered clear of Olympic games and the only reason this game sold is because of brand recognition. Edited by Neo Metallix, Jan 26 2009, 09:03 PM.
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