Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii?

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Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii?; What's your favorite?
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infamousDee	Mar 19 2010, 09:42 AM Post #31
Flying Battery Act 2 Posts: 1,023 Group: B Rank Hero Member #9,807 Joined: March 1, 2009	Phoenix_Saturn Mar 18 2010, 11:37 AM danielwhite74 Mar 18 2010, 10:50 AM In my opinion, the Playstation 3 is far better value than the Xbox 360. I mean, it incorporates a Blu-Ray drive for crying out loud, and yet it is similarly priced to a mid-range standalone Blu-Ray player. That and the fact you won't be continuously shelling out cash in order to play online; an almost obligatory part of owning a games console nowadays. Technically, the 360 has an HD DVD player... (Completely useless unless you own them, of course) Just sayin'. That statement is completely false. A HD DVD drive was a heftily priced add-on. Not to mention the fact that, as Arkei pointed out, "HD DVD as a movie format is dead". Edited by infamousDee, Mar 20 2010, 09:42 AM.



Deleted User	Mar 19 2010, 01:20 PM Post #32
Deleted User	Like I said before, this is like saying that all consoles rip off the 2600 for being game consoles. Also, I don't know if you remember the huge war and everything, but HD-DVD as a movie format is dead.
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Lord Bowie	Mar 20 2010, 01:18 AM Post #33
What is the difference between a duck? Posts: 4,799 Group: Former Monarchs Member #7,312 Joined: April 10, 2008 Playstation Network ID: Allbowdown Xbox Live Gamertag: allbowdown	Nail Strafer Mar 17 2010, 05:52 PM Quote: The 360 is better designed, structurally, and the RROD problem is gone, Well, where did you hear this? Because every 360 I've owned has failed within two years. We'll see how this Elite does though. I got it three months ago. Quote: pair that with an industry best online service and controllers that you don't have to buy batteries for (there are rechargeable packs, Nail, that are more than worth their weight) I'll be honest with you...it just bugs me that you've got to spend money on batteries for both the Wii and the 360. Doesn't matter if they're disposable or rechargeable...it still bothers me. It's kind of like paying a tax to play your games, even though you already own them. I really like how you get a recharge cable with the PS3 straight out of the box. Oh, and the wi fi and the Blu Ray player? I actually use both of them quite frequently. They really are very handy. And personally I think the PS3 makes a much better DVD player than the 360 too. It bugs me MORE that you are forced to buy Wi-Fi and Blu-Ray with the PS3 (Driving up the price) and an Ethernet port add on for the Wii far more than rechargeable battery packs. And by structurally I mean in the looks department, the 360 is the easiest to look at of the 3, since the PS3 didn't get any prettier and the Wii is a white brick on a grey brick. As for the RROD, the problem was solved through a combination of the hardware (the smaller/cooler processing unit) and the NXE firmware, all which led to a cooler/increased performance. Your last 360 may have RRODed after the new hardware and updates were out but it was probably manufactured prior to said point. To my knowledge, the Elite is not going to RROD, especially at this point in time. As for DVD play, I use my 360 a bit for it but that's kinda what my original DVD player was/is for, so that's not a big sticking point for me. ^^; Tails Fanatic Even if the RROD is fixed in some systems, you also have the disk scratch issue and disk tray failures I hear so much about at places that a re repairing the machines. It sounds like people's disk trays mess up quite a bit on their machines. It doesn't hurt anymore, but my disk tray my 360 does get stuck from time to time and has to be told to eject twice before it comes out. That's going to happen to any console when you start moving it around with a disk spinning inside. Half the people who complain about that problem are probably in the middle of playing (insert game here) with their 360 in vertical positioning and decide "I think Imma set it sideways" SCREEEEEEEEEECCCCCHHHHHHHHHH.... Disk scratching is 99% user error, not console error. Otherwise everyone would be losing tons of games.[/quote]
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Lord Tails Fanatic	Mar 20 2010, 08:57 AM Post #34
Posts: 4,340 Group: Former Monarchs Member #4,694 Joined: December 31, 2007	You sound just like the company, yes moving the console can scratch it, but what do you do when you aren't moving it, have it on a level surface and it is still doing it huh =P There are a LARGE number of people that have disk tray problems now. Go look around the internet for disk scratches and 360. There is an entire website that sell disk scratch repair items and all the people complaining about it. So before you say that I am moving the console around, go do the research. I'd say yes there is a high error of user error like you said, but the number I would put around 75% or something like that. Disk tray errors are a much bigger problem than you realize.
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Neo Metallix	Mar 20 2010, 11:40 AM Post #35
~Doomsday Overlord~ Posts: 15,568 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: Doc_Of_D Game Currently Playing: Tales of Xillia	Bowie It bugs me MORE that you are forced to buy Wi-Fi and Blu-Ray with the PS3 (Driving up the price) and an Ethernet port add on for the Wii far more than rechargeable battery packs. Um a PS3 is the same price as a comparable 360 now, in case you haven't noticed. Except the 250 gig in which the PS3 is $50 cheaper($250 as opposed to $300 for the Super Elite). Last gen people were saying Xbox was better because it had everything built in(Ethernet, 4 controller ports, HDD, etc) and now that the 360 is like the PS2, in which you had to buy everything separately, it's better. It shouldn't bug anyone who is buying a console now that they are the same price, and the standard HDD adds a big advantage over consoles without a standard HDD for game development. As far as RROD, I'm sure Microsoft remedied most of it, but just a month ago I saw a new 360 in their display that had it. The one with the Jasper chip that everyone claims does not have RROD anymore. The PS3 isn't immune from problems either, but Microsoft really screwed up by rushing hardware just to get out the earliest. Edited by Neo Metallix, Mar 20 2010, 12:00 PM.
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Phoenix-Saturn	Mar 20 2010, 06:03 PM Post #36
i just wwant to be beautiful for this one month Posts: 7,528 Group: A Rank Legend Member #10,191 Joined: July 27, 2009	^ Not in Canada. The 360 is at least 100$ more expensive in all models than the PS3. Not that that's saying much, they're both 200$ more expensive than in the US.
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Sonic CD	Mar 20 2010, 08:41 PM Post #37
Trouble keeps you runnin' faster Posts: 968 Group: C Rank Hero Member #5,434 Joined: January 27, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: FadeToPuppets	I've had my 360 for almost a year now and I have had no problems what so ever. Knock on wood.
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Lord Bowie	Mar 21 2010, 12:42 AM Post #38
What is the difference between a duck? Posts: 4,799 Group: Former Monarchs Member #7,312 Joined: April 10, 2008 Playstation Network ID: Allbowdown Xbox Live Gamertag: allbowdown	Neo Metallix Mar 20 2010, 11:40 AM Bowie It bugs me MORE that you are forced to buy Wi-Fi and Blu-Ray with the PS3 (Driving up the price) and an Ethernet port add on for the Wii far more than rechargeable battery packs. Um a PS3 is the same price as a comparable 360 now, in case you haven't noticed. Except the 250 gig in which the PS3 is $50 cheaper($250 as opposed to $300 for the Super Elite). Last gen people were saying Xbox was better because it had everything built in(Ethernet, 4 controller ports, HDD, etc) and now that the 360 is like the PS2, in which you had to buy everything separately, it's better. It shouldn't bug anyone who is buying a console now that they are the same price, and the standard HDD adds a big advantage over consoles without a standard HDD for game development. As far as RROD, I'm sure Microsoft remedied most of it, but just a month ago I saw a new 360 in their display that had it. The one with the Jasper chip that everyone claims does not have RROD anymore. The PS3 isn't immune from problems either, but Microsoft really screwed up by rushing hardware just to get out the earliest. The Super Elite is just a bundled Elite, not a whole new system, so it isn't comparable to the PS3s price. Take off the one extra wireless controller and you've already made up the $50 difference. Follow that up with the game and it's $60 under. It only drops lower beyond that. But essentially the base unit prices are comparable, it's all coming down to who gives more for the money and a gamers preferences. The Blu-Ray is an undeniable draw but I personally don't care for it since I don't personally have any desire to watch films in High Definition if I can pay far less per disc to see them in standard def. Besides, being a self-proclaimed casual editing mastermind, I can upconvert my own DVDs through Sony Vegas and other means to achieve the Matroska Blu-Ray Movie format and emulate it on my computer and it's HDTV monitor. So I have even less use for the extra price add ons. ^^; DVD is still the dominant format for movies and data at this point in time for the public and it will be for quite some time since as long as the Blu-Ray stays so pricey, it will only see lethargic increases over the years, not denying it's sky high potential, but today is not it's day. And I'm a guy who typically focuses on the here and now and waits for the future to get cheaper for me to get involved (as I've done with the PS3) before making a shiny purchase. P.S. How can you tell it was a Jasper Unit that was RRODing. Typically businesses buy old, refurbished consoles to keep prices trimmed. It's not like "XBOX 360 JASPER" is painted right on the front of the console. There are still technical difficulties as with all the systems sure, but the Jasper and NXE essentially make the console RROD proof as that error was caused by expanding and contracting the circuitry within the console via heat/cool down until parts would sever. @TF no way is there a 25% disk drive failure rate that would be an absurd statistic, that would be unheard of. The highest I'd place a disk scratching error on fault of the hardware exclusively 5-7%. The error is FAR more often than not caused by either moving the console with the game operating, inserting the disk wrong, OR inserting a game at one point and then switching console positions (typically from horizontal to vertical) between sessions which has a chance of throwing the disk off alignment as it tries to rest into a new spot rather than being inserted properly when the consoles positioning is shifted.
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HollyYoshi	Mar 21 2010, 05:51 AM Post #39
I object to your claims Posts: 15,025 Group: =SB= Queens Member #9,640 Joined: January 9, 2009 Gender: Female Country: United States of America 3DS Friend Code: 1891-1489-0768 Nintendo ID: Agent_Blaire Game Currently Playing: Yoshi's Island	Minus Human Mar 20 2010, 08:41 PM I've had my 360 for almost a year now and I have had no problems what so ever. Knock on wood. Huh, I think we've had ours for three years and guess what? No problems.



Neo Metallix	Mar 21 2010, 10:44 AM Post #40
~Doomsday Overlord~ Posts: 15,568 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Playstation Network ID: Doc_Of_D Game Currently Playing: Tales of Xillia	Bowie But essentially the base unit prices are comparable, it's all coming down to who gives more for the money and a gamers preferences. Sure, but there's no denying that the PS3 is a better value than the 360 hardware wise. Preference does not effect what kind of a value you're getting with your hardware and your original argument was that it annoyed you paying for more when that simply is no longer the case as it's the same price. Why are we discussing this anyway? This is about preferences and Nail's preferences are to not pay more for accessories. It does not need to be refuted, but what you originally said is incorrect. Bowie P.S. How can you tell it was a Jasper Unit that was RRODing. Typically businesses buy old, refurbished consoles to keep prices trimmed. It's not like "XBOX 360 JASPER" is painted right on the front of the console. There are still technical difficulties as with all the systems sure, but the Jasper and NXE essentially make the console RROD proof as that error was caused by expanding and contracting the circuitry within the console via heat/cool down until parts would sever. That's just what they told me at Gamestop. My friend pointed it out and laughed and started talking to the employees about it and they told me it was only 6 months old. Jasper 360s were being sold since fall 2008. Even if it wasn't a Jasper, it's still reinforces a bad image on their product and I wouldn't trust anything Microsoft says, because they only admitted to it due to a widespread problem. I'm sure they got rid of their astronomical failure rate, but the whole "RROD proof" is just B.S. No console is immune from failure, even the Wii. Edited by Neo Metallix, Mar 21 2010, 11:07 AM.
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Lord Tails Fanatic	Mar 22 2010, 05:30 AM Post #41
Posts: 4,340 Group: Former Monarchs Member #4,694 Joined: December 31, 2007	Well, maybe my stat is a little high, but still, the hardware is to blame alot of the time as well. Microsoft doesn't give a crap though on this issue. They KNOW the hardware occasionally tilts the disks and scratches them, but its their policy to lie and say its your fault and that you moved the console while it was playing, not true! They do know the problem, but they aren't allowed to tell you what it is.
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Lord Bowie	Mar 23 2010, 12:23 AM Post #42
What is the difference between a duck? Posts: 4,799 Group: Former Monarchs Member #7,312 Joined: April 10, 2008 Playstation Network ID: Allbowdown Xbox Live Gamertag: allbowdown	@Neo- I never said the 360 was failure proof, the key word is "essentially" nothing is ever going to be 100%. The chance of it being a Jasper were slim, you can't know what you have based on when you bought it, as the systems were inter-distributed for a little while as the shelves couldn't just be vacated of old units. And we're discussing this since you brought it up. Also I can't seem to remember what I said was incorrect. I just state the industry as it is and as it stands. Ultimately in the home stretch it's coming down to a gamer simply taking sides on what they want to buy. I don't know a ton of people super interested in the Blu Ray, its an undoubtedly nice perk but my crowd tends to buy game consoles with games as the main focus. It's some sort of semi-casual/hardcore label you what you will type of gamer approach.. but the hardcore base is most likely entrenched at this point. The roundups at this point are the family crowds and the casual or cheap gamers. The Wii is going to continue to eat up the family base as hard as either the PS3 or 360 push for it, and the rest will have to choose between liking star power on the 360 or the PS3 more often than not. The broader appeal will favor the PS3 as it is more multipurpose with Blu-Ray and Wi-Fi, the 360 will take what it can of the family base and use it's Juggernaut online service and power titles to try and lure "on the fence" buyers. From a family standpoint the 360 is probably more appealing than the PS3 which is dubbed more hardcore/violent.. but it doesn't make sense trying to tap a market that Nintendo has a stranglehold on simply on the virtue of being the Disney of gaming. But being middle of the road can be good or bad depending. @TF- A lot less often than a lot. The hardware doesn't tilt itself, there are, far more often than not, contributing factors beyond the hardware's control. Some people set systems in the area of pumped up sub-woofers or primary speakers of surround sound systems, cranked noise causes reverberation which shakes surfaces which, in turn, shakes the system. The location of the system is too hot, think of a summer day in a winter-fitted house (north US as an example) the heat combined with the heat in the consoles motors expand the air which lift the disk and drop it intermittently. It's not policy to say you're in the wrong, it's statistic. But typically a company can know by HOW a disk is scratched if it is a console error or that of outside influence, with which the company is not liable. If they had a true problem with the system it would be fixed, just like any other company. They want to make sales just like football teams want to win games, they put the best possible product on the field/market to compete. You can't pull the "Juggernaut Company is Evil" card because Nintendo and Sony are juggernauts as well, to say Microsoft is different just because they're Microsoft (a.k.a. NOT Japanese) makes no sense at all.
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Lord Tails Fanatic	Mar 23 2010, 07:28 AM Post #43
Posts: 4,340 Group: Former Monarchs Member #4,694 Joined: December 31, 2007	I'm not saying that Microsoft is bad just because they are not Japanese. I'm not that shallow at all. However, When my PS2 and Gamecube had problems in the past, Nintendo and Sony were quick to help me. I sent the consoles to them and happily fixed them. When it comes to Microsoft, they have so many more rules and seem more apt to blame the user rather than themselves. Their system just spins those disks WAAAAAY to fast for one. Have you ever heard how fast one of those things get going in there? Stick in a copy of Sonic Unleased and listen to that thing about to take off in there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems read there for the issue on disk scratching. Yes, sometimes it is caused by movement, I knew that all along, but this was a different problem I am speaking of.
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Deleted User	Mar 23 2010, 07:37 AM Post #44
Deleted User	Actually, Sony's customer service is crap now.
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Lord Tails Fanatic	Mar 23 2010, 04:47 PM Post #45
Posts: 4,340 Group: Former Monarchs Member #4,694 Joined: December 31, 2007	And how do you know that it is now? Give an example, don't just say it sucks without proof.
	I'm a gamer and always will be a gamer. If you don't believe me. I have 430 Video Games and 19 Consoles. I doubt you could beat that unless you are a gamer as well! =P So, let's see if you can outdo "The Jet Gamer"


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