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| Topic Started: Mar 14 2010, 03:22 PM (1,596 Views) | |
| Sonic CD | Mar 14 2010, 03:22 PM Post #1 |
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Well, with that Sonic Adventure available on Xbox Live picture and the release of Sonic 4 in the summer.. do you think they will continue the Adventure series? I mean think about it. Maybe instead of making new series' they will just continue the old ones? |
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| The Original Eevee | Mar 14 2010, 03:34 PM Post #2 |
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Here we go again. Why do people want to see a Sonic Adventure 3, do they think just because its shares a name with the 'better' titles in the 3D range that it will instantly be good? As far as I'm concerned the game could be called Sonic and the Pickle Jar of Power, as long as it plays well what difference does the title make? |
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| Sonic CD | Mar 14 2010, 04:21 PM Post #3 |
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Whoa, hold on Who said I wanted to see it? I just asked if it was a possibility. |
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| VladDrakken(DAK) | Mar 14 2010, 05:06 PM Post #4 |
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The Adventure games was the first sonic games I owned and actually played. So if you guys can be happy with Super Sonic finally being playable on normal levels, I think we have the right to be happy about that. By the way, whats this thing about Sonic Adventures being available on Xbox live? |
              
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| Phoenix-Saturn | Mar 14 2010, 05:52 PM Post #5 |
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Technically, Sonic World Adventure (Unleashed) was SA3. I'd be more accurate to name it SA4. |
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| Sonic CD | Mar 14 2010, 05:57 PM Post #6 |
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http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/01/gam_sonicxblalisting_580.jpg and Phoenix_Saturn, Sonic 06 is not worthy enough to be called SA3. I'm just sayin' Edited by Sonic CD, Mar 14 2010, 05:58 PM.
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| Badx | Mar 14 2010, 05:57 PM Post #7 |
The airbrush is my bitch
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Yeah, this is kinda completely totallly different. Super Sonic in the regular stages is an old feature that got dropped and is now returning for Sonic the Hedgehog. This is just a title that was tacked on to two games. You could argue that people jizzed their pants over it being called Sonic 4 but otherwise doesn't really apply. |
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| Zak | Mar 14 2010, 08:22 PM Post #8 |
Not just "that kid from brawl"
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First of all let me just point out Pheonix said Unleashed was basicly SA3, not Sonic '06. But Sonic '06 is a great example of what Eevee said. Sonic '06 was as close as were going to get to SA3. It pretty much was SA3. You say now not worthy as if haveing the title Sonic Adventure measn beig epic win. Sonic Adventure basically meant the game had multiple story lines that all converged into one at the end. It that sense, Sonic '06 is worthy of the title Sonic Adventure. Just because it's sonic adventure dosen't automaticaly mean it's going to be good. That's like saying "Well, Mario Bros. Was a really good game, so any other game by the name of Mario is automaticly a good game." Sonic '06 was Sonic Adventure 3 basically. And it sucked. So even if SEGA decided to make Sonic Adventure 3, it could still suck as much, if not more than '06 First of all let me just point out Pheonix said Unleashed was basicly SA3, not Sonic '06. But Sonic '06 is a great example of what Eevee said. Sonic '06 was as close as were going to get to SA3. It pretty much was SA3. You say it's not worthy as if haveing the title Sonic Adventure means beig epic win. Sonic Adventure basically meant the game had multiple story lines that all converged into one at the end. It that sense, Sonic '06 is worthy of the title Sonic Adventure. Just because it's sonic adventure dosen't automaticaly mean it's going to be good. That's like saying "Well, Mario Bros. Was a really good game, so any other game by the name of Mario is automaticly a good game." Sonic '06 was Sonic Adventure 3 basically. And it sucked. So even if SEGA decided to make Sonic Adventure 3, it could still suck as much, if not more than '06 Edited by Zak, Mar 14 2010, 08:24 PM.
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oh gods, I'm doing this again... >_> This is why I hate personality quizzes.  | |
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| VladDrakken(DAK) | Mar 14 2010, 09:28 PM Post #9 |
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Where the hell is that? I went onto xbox live looking for it, but couldn't find it. |
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Mar 15 2010, 08:11 AM Post #10 |
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Technically Sonic Crackers was Sonic 4, and they named this new game coming out Sonic 4. So a Sonic Adventure 3 is possible. In any case, Unleashed is too different and not worthy of an SA3 title in my eyes. Besides, you could argue Sonic 06, Shadow, and Heroes were also SA3. But in reality, Sonic Adventure 2 has no "real" sequel. If we had an SA3 (which I think we should) it would have to be similarly structured to the last two Adventure games. More characters than just Sonic, emeralds in the main game, full 3D levels, a map or free-roam world, etc. To make this game possible some things would have to put into account: 1. No Shadow- he died in SA2, for consistency, don't put him in the game 2. No forms like Excalibur or the werehog, just keep Super Sonic 3. Make Knuckles have a notable presence (emerald hunting back if necessary) 4. Tails with no robot Fixing these problems and allowing various other Sonic characters to play as will make the game worthy of a sequel to SA2, because we all know there is no true sequel. Oh, and it would have to be just as good as SA2. Remember, Sonic started to die after SA2... Edited by Sonic Adventure 2, Mar 15 2010, 08:12 AM.
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| VladDrakken(DAK) | Mar 15 2010, 09:21 AM Post #11 |
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 Wouldn't that be contradictory since Sonic Heroes took place after SA2(And even some of the characters make points about the first Sonic Adventures games) and showed Shadow was alive and has been to this day? |
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| The Original Eevee | Mar 15 2010, 11:24 AM Post #12 |
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People, We already have far too many topics on the whole 'Is Shadow dead' subject, please don't turn this into another one. |
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Mar 15 2010, 11:48 AM Post #13 |
Who I'll be, nobody knows!
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If I may be allowed to chime in, word is that Unleashed is considered the closest thing to SA3 in Japan because of the title change to Sonic World Adventure. This is made easier to assume as Sonic Team outright admitted that the game was going to be SA3 before its retooling. Sonic 06, meanwhile, apparently retains a stance similar to Heroes or Shadow-- It's a 3D Sonic game, but nowhere close to sitting comfortably in the Adventure line even if it could. Quality is irrelevant in this issue-- Naming your game Adventure, or even using similar story and gameplay mechanics, doesn't mean it'll automatically be awesome. The original Sonic Adventure was such a horrific mess and barely qualified as a game that Sonic Team had to fix it up and release it twice in the Japanese market as Sonic Adventure International. The western markets got the International version, hence why many folks mistakenly think Sonic Team somehow got it perfectly right the first try despite the fact that the game did absolutely nothing for Sonic's reputation in the east. Anyways, I say all this to say, why does anyone care about Sonic Adventure 3 anymore? We should care about quality Sonic games, and the Adventure series, whatever you personally consider it, is simply not immune from egregious problems. |
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| Phoenix-Saturn | Mar 15 2010, 12:04 PM Post #14 |
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Sonic Crackers was a beta engine for Knux Chaotix, not Sonic 4.
Completely irrelevant to your above point.
But Heroes, Shadow, and 06 were not stated as "Adventure". Unleashed was, thus making it a closer sequel. Kind of.
1. Shadow is shown to be alive in Heroes, so unless you have an inbetweenqual then that doesn't work. 2. Total Disagreement. Plain and simple. 3. He's supposed to be guarding a giant green gem in the sky. Don't shoehorn in characters for no reason other than appealing to a fanbase. It's... just no. 4. What's wrong with a robot? Granted, I'd like to see Tails as playable without, but what's wrong with a robot for some stages?
Hmm... Except for no 1, all of that was in 06... And the only reason mediocre games started to come out after SA2 is because SEGA tried to play up to fanbases and failed. Blame the fans for wanting something more classic (Heroes) then more mature (Shadow) and then more classic RIGHT THEN AND THERE (06). |
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Mar 15 2010, 12:13 PM Post #15 |
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Well, Shadow is alive. The NEW Shadow. The old cool Shadow is long dead. And I'm just going to ignore the last poster because they obviously just want to disagree with me in every way. I will say one thing though: whether you accept that Sonic Crackers was Sonic 4 at one point or not, it was given the name Sonic 4 nonetheless, even if it became the prototype for Knuckles Chaotix. Therefore, naming does not really matter. Unleashed does not deserve the name Adventure in it, in my opinion. This is the only place where naming matters: when one game completely throws off the style of the series. Sonic was the only character in it, unlike the other games which actually had more, and working together to satisfy a goal. However, I do agree that the names don't really matter in any way. I just hope for a game close to SA2 that could be worthy of the title SA3. I don't want a game called anything close to SA3 if it does not deserve the title. SA2 is a masterpiece. Let's not ruin it with a horrible sequel. Edited by Sonic Adventure 2, Mar 15 2010, 12:15 PM.
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Mar 15 2010, 12:18 PM Post #16 |
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Who I'll be, nobody knows!
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You can't really pin the blame for the series' rockiness on just one factor like fanservice, especially if that one factor isn't the elephant in the room that is Sonic Team's arguable design and coding abilities. It's been a multitude of factors-- Gameplay-centric problems, Sega's bankruptcy, corporate meddling, timetable issues, the misrepresentation or compromise of fan demand, ignorance, entitlement, and specificity issues, lack of public confidence and subsequent high expectations, even the unorthodox "Sonic" gameplay itself. One could probably go on forever, so it's a little unfair to just blame the fans and call it a day even if some of them are unreasonable. |
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Mar 15 2010, 12:24 PM Post #17 |
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Sonic Team has just failed completely after they lost the console race in terms of Sonic games. The fan base should receive no criticism. The reason the fan base attacks Sonic Team is because they fail. Right now Sonic Team is pathetic (no offense)- they can't even produce Sonic 4, which is supposed to be the next game added to their original classics. That's just lame. They have to call Dimps to do it. Sonic Team is virtually dead at this point. THIS is why fans like me bash the games. It's not that hard to make a video game, but Sonic Team finds every way to make their newer Sonic games fail. Notice the newer great games: Rush, Rush Adventure, and Chronicles (actually not sure about this one, thought they made it) were all made by Dimps. Not Sonic Team. Sonic Team has failed and harmed Sega's mascot more than they've helped it in the past few years. Dimps has done a better job. Edited by Sonic Adventure 2, Mar 15 2010, 12:27 PM.
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| The Original Eevee | Mar 15 2010, 12:26 PM Post #18 |
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#133 Eievui
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And your basing that statement on what exactly? |
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Mar 15 2010, 12:30 PM Post #19 |
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How can you even go about basing my statement on anything? Look at Mario, comes out with 8 games a year, all boring, yet all glitch-free and lovely to the fan-base. Now there's Sonic. One game that is conveyed in epicness, but fails, and the fan-base complains. It's simple. Look at the logic in it. Sonic Team is at their own faults for Sonic's destruction. If they made more games like SA2, or the classics (which they now depend on Dimps to do), they'd be successful. Edited by Sonic Adventure 2, Mar 15 2010, 12:31 PM.
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| The Original Eevee | Mar 15 2010, 12:33 PM Post #20 |
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#133 Eievui
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You said that it's not that hard to make a video game, have you ever tryed to make a video game yourself, its alot harder than it looks thats for sure. |
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