Sonic Adventure 2

Jan 17 2010, 02:06 PM

Just hear me out. I firmly believe every game is rated by biased thought. That's just how they are. But do you think Sonic Team has caused the downfall rating for their games? I'll explain why...

Ever since Sega left the console business, they've been overhyping Sonic in many of his "main" games. Every trailer we see of a new game is out like a year before they show anything else. Fans talk and mingle and want to know more for so long. And the trailers look astounding, like the best game ever.

Simply, it's all advertising. It's Sonic Team's way of saying that their game will be the "next big thing". Other games have done this too, but not as badly as Sonic Team has done it to Sonic. They make him look like a king before the game even comes out.

Then, when the game comes out, it may not be bad. However, it isn't as good as the trailer shows it, so it gets hate from fans. They wanted more because the trailers were superficial. But the game never lived up to the hype it received. And this is why many of the low ratings were received.

Just look at some of the games over-hyped:
*Sonic Unleashed
*Sonic 06 (waaaaaaaaaay overhyped)
*Shadow the Hedgehog

Now look at the "outsider" games:
*Sonic Rush series
*Sonic Chronicles
*Sonic storybook series

Simply put, the games that were overhyped received bad ratings because the games were not as good as the trailers made them to be. The ones that were not hyped received fine ratings.

I expect much the same for Needlemouse. A 2D game in a 3D world could be good, but being overhyped, Sonic Team will see failure in ratings yet again.

The game won't be as good as Sonic Team is trying to make it look like. This will set the anger in fans and cause it to get bad ratings (no matter the outcome). Unless the game is perfect, of course. But this is a milestone that is tough to achieve.

Sonic Team put all these bad ratings upon itself. It overhyped its games through commercializing and that's why it's seen failures. It's not the fans, it's not always the games, it's Sega. They don't know when to stop advertising Sonic. They push it too far so that the fans think the games will be God-like.

VladDrakken(DAK)

Jan 17 2010, 09:07 PM

You do know that those outsiders games, the storybook and chronicle games STILL got bad ratings right?

Master of Darkness

Jan 17 2010, 09:09 PM

VladDrakken(DAK)

Jan 17 2010, 09:07 PM

You do know that those outsiders games, the storybook and chronicle games STILL got bad ratings right?

Again, screw reviews. I played Chronicles to death. I thought the idea of an RPG Sonic was kick-ass.


But then, I guess not all Sonic fans are as open-mined, eh?

VladDrakken(DAK)

Jan 17 2010, 09:10 PM

Master of Darkness

Jan 17 2010, 09:09 PM

VladDrakken(DAK)

Jan 17 2010, 09:07 PM

You do know that those outsiders games, the storybook and chronicle games STILL got bad ratings right?

Again, screw reviews. I played Chronicles to death. I thought the idea of an RPG Sonic was kick-ass.


But then, I guess not all Sonic fans are as open-mined, eh?

I didn't say it sucked, I liked it and love to see a sequel(Though I wonder if that will happen considering its been two years, and no word on it).

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Ever since Sega left the console business, they've been overhyping Sonic in many of his "main" games. Every trailer we see of a new game is out like a year before they show anything else. Fans talk and mingle and want to know more for so long. And the trailers look astounding, like the best game ever.

Quote:

 

Simply, it's all advertising. It's Sonic Team's way of saying that their game will be the "next big thing". Other games have done this too, but not as badly as Sonic Team has done it to Sonic. They make him look like a king before the game even comes out.

Quote:

 

Then, when the game comes out, it may not be bad. However, it isn't as good as the trailer shows it, so it gets hate from fans. They wanted more because the trailers were superficial. But the game never lived up to the hype it received. And this is why many of the low ratings were received.

Just look at some of the games over-hyped:
*Sonic Unleashed
*Sonic 06 (waaaaaaaaaay overhyped)
*Shadow the Hedgehog

Now look at the "outsider" games:
*Sonic Rush series
*Sonic Chronicles
*Sonic storybook series

Simply put, the games that were overhyped received bad ratings because the games were not as good as the trailers made them to be. The ones that were not hyped received fine ratings.

Quote:

 

I expect much the same for Needlemouse. A 2D game in a 3D world could be good, but being overhyped, Sonic Team will see failure in ratings yet again.

Quote:

 

The game won't be as good as Sonic Team is trying to make it look like. This will set the anger in fans and cause it to get bad ratings (no matter the outcome). Unless the game is perfect, of course. But this is a milestone that is tough to achieve.

Quote:

 

Sonic Team put all these bad ratings upon itself. It overhyped its games through commercializing and that's why it's seen failures. It's not the fans, it's not always the games, it's Sega. They don't know when to stop advertising Sonic. They push it too far so that the fans think the games will be God-like.

BlizShadow

Jan 17 2010, 08:50 PM

First no "true" Adventure 3, then no classic elements, then Yuji Naka leaving, and now marketing-- You deduce the real reason for Sonic's downfall every other month, don't you?

Anyways, Sonic is not in a unique position. Not only is his level of hype nowhere near other contenders (Halo, GTA, Bayonetta, Galaxy, etc.), but 99.9% of games out there that receive significant marketing do not live up to their hype anyways. That's the nature of the game. You know who wants a marketing team that makes a company's product look like anything less than the best? No one who wants a business, that's who.

Regardless, hype is ultimately insignificant; It's a completely different process in regards to the game development, and thus if Sega sent their marketers on permanent holiday yet were still releasing the same games in the same shape they were in, it wouldn't really change their reception. Sonic '06 will always be a broken piece of shit regardless of whether or not anyone playing had even seen a trailer for it.

That is the reason the franchise isn't soaring. The games themselves aren't excellent. They range from average to horrible. Gamers don't like average or horrible games. Simple as.

Gold

Jan 18 2010, 01:33 PM

Personally I love every game Sega has created. From the Sonic series to Billy Hatcher to (dare I say it) Bayonetta. In my eyes (and in some fans eyes), as a company they are doing great. I personally loved the Werehog. It was a little bit of a change of pace. But that change made it all the more reason to play (Plus Unleashed final boss{on 360 and ps3} is a real pain. I still have trouble beating it) i enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog because it was different and it kept one of my favorite characters alive. '06 is not all that bad (IMO). I rather liked the game aside from the many problems with it. And canon wise '06 never really happened due to the ending. I have given up on the reviews. They are worthless and untrue. GI gave darksiders a bad rep just because of the similarities it shares with other games. And that's all I have to say on the subject.

Gold

Jan 18 2010, 01:33 PM

Personally I love every game Sega has created. From the Sonic series to Billy Hatcher to (dare I say it) Bayonetta. In my eyes (and in some fans eyes), as a company they are doing great. I personally loved the Werehog. It was a little bit of a change of pace. But that change made it all the more reason to play (Plus Unleashed final boss{on 360 and ps3} is a real pain. I still have trouble beating it) i enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog because it was different and it kept one of my favorite characters alive. '06 is not all that bad (IMO). I rather liked the game aside from the many problems with it. And canon wise '06 never really happened due to the ending. I have given up on the reviews. They are worthless and untrue. GI gave darksiders a bad rep just because of the similarities it shares with other games. And that's all I have to say on the subject.

Neo Metallix

Jan 24 2010, 06:19 PM

Gold

Jan 18 2010, 01:33 PM

Personally I love every game Sega has created. From the Sonic series to Billy Hatcher to (dare I say it) Bayonetta. In my eyes (and in some fans eyes), as a company they are doing great. I personally loved the Werehog. It was a little bit of a change of pace. But that change made it all the more reason to play (Plus Unleashed final boss{on 360 and ps3} is a real pain. I still have trouble beating it) i enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog because it was different and it kept one of my favorite characters alive. '06 is not all that bad (IMO). I rather liked the game aside from the many problems with it. And canon wise '06 never really happened due to the ending. I have given up on the reviews. They are worthless and untrue. GI gave darksiders a bad rep just because of the similarities it shares with other games. And that's all I have to say on the subject.

Sega did not create Bayonetta, they only published it. Anyway I don't think it's marketing and hype that ruined its reviews. Look at GTA4, that was the worst in the series and it got rated almost higher than any other game!