Compensation

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Compensation; 08 - Arooga, Arrooogaa out 24/11/10!
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Lord Master of Darkness™	Dec 30 2009, 07:36 PM Post #1
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	And so after my dabblings with G-Mod, hand-drawn, etc... I finally return to my roots and present a brand new dawn. 01 - Fresh Meat 02 - New And Improved 03 - Requiem 04 - NeedleDoctor 05 - It Starts With 06 - OMG TEH HAXORD 07 - Facepalm doesn't cover it 08 - Arooga, Arrooogaa Now why another new comic, when I've already started a few good(apparently so, from the feedback I've been given) comics? Namely Sonic Horizons, Perfect Take-Off and A Quartz Adventure? Quite simply, loss of data. I got a shiny new computer and wasn't able to back up all the templates, or the custom sprites I'd made up for various comics. Perfect Take-Off and AQA are pretty much dead in the water and unless I get an IDE cable, SH is staying dead too. So welcome then, to Compensation. What does the title mean? Will it be revealed during the course of the topic? Where did the cool custom sprites come from? Why is Knuckles so stubborn? Why can't the blue blue outrun a blody ECHIDNA?? And when does part 9 come out? Watch this space for more, feedback is always welcome. I am now accepting applications for cameo appearances in this comic - that is, brief, one-off appearances. Please private message me for more details if you're interested.
	Click to go to my YouTube channel - now over 1,200 subscribers! The Gaming MoD - a blog about gaming, by the Master of Darkness. Other links! Great comics currently in existence on SB(and my own, of course): \|Compensation\|~~Bar'd~~\|~~Park And Ride~~\|~~Sonic: Quest for the Chaos Energy~~\| Want your comic here? Make it a good one then! Where to find me on the net: \|~~Bleached Horizons~~\|~~Pitwall F1~~\|DevART\|


Gallant Vision	Dec 30 2009, 09:59 PM Post #2
Sky Sanctuary Zone Posts: 6,835 Group: B Rank Legend Member #9,330 Joined: September 4, 2008	Sweet! A Honey the Cat sprite!
	I have an interest in spriting. If anyone has a request, don't hesitate to ask. Deep stuff below: Spoiler: click to toggle The world. Filled with millions of differences. But despite the fact, we all are brothers and sisters, Inhabiting and living under the same sky. But despite this, we war and kill our siblings over trivial things, Staining the earth on which we all walk, With the blood of our brothers, With the blood of our sisters. The sky under which we go through our lives weeps, For the clouds surely know of the atrocities we commit. We slay, maim, gouge, and destroy our siblings, In the name of things which ought not be fought for. Approach a member of the family not, With the tainted lash of hatred, But with the pure flower of love. ======================================= The sword. A weapon who's blade is stained red With the blood of its countless victims. Were it alive, what would such a being feel? Would it live only to fight, And fight only to live? Would it be controlled By those with the skill to do so? I believe that it would cry For each person it has ever brought harm to, Its tears as red as the blood it has spilled.


VaughnWG	Dec 31 2009, 06:25 AM Post #3
Hydrocity Act 1 Posts: 76 Group: C Rank Adventurer Member #10,341 Joined: September 10, 2009	Nicely done, keep it up ^^
	"Everything that ever was, shall never be..."


Dregan	Dec 31 2009, 12:32 PM Post #4
The True Awsomifier Posts: 587 Group: A Rank Knight Member #4,223 Joined: December 11, 2007	Nice job. Can't really give too much in the way of feedback yet other than a few pointers. For example, in panel 5 I didn't realise that it was Shadow talking with the white speech bubbles (It was only the last panel which made me realise). As Bean and Bark were relaying information to Shadow, and as white is closer to Bark than Shadow in terms of colour, I assumed it was Bark speaking. Shadow making the statement seems odd, as he's the one who's after infomation, him suddenly telling Bean and Bark about what he saw on Myspace, Facebook and Twitter about her just seems odd and out of place in the conversation... Also, I personally don't like the way you blurred the later panels... I guess you're trying to make it seem less pixelated, although it kind of fails in that regard... you can still see it's pixelly... it's just pixelly AND blurry now. Anyways, I should be interested to see more from you. I'll be watching.
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Lord Master of Darkness™	Dec 31 2009, 08:55 PM Post #5
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	Dregan Dec 31 2009, 12:32 PM Nice job. Can't really give too much in the way of feedback yet other than a few pointers. For example, in panel 5 I didn't realise that it was Shadow talking with the white speech bubbles (It was only the last panel which made me realise). As Bean and Bark were relaying information to Shadow, and as white is closer to Bark than Shadow in terms of colour, I assumed it was Bark speaking. Shadow making the statement seems odd, as he's the one who's after infomation, him suddenly telling Bean and Bark about what he saw on Myspace, Facebook and Twitter about her just seems odd and out of place in the conversation... Also, I personally don't like the way you blurred the later panels... I guess you're trying to make it seem less pixelated, although it kind of fails in that regard... you can still see it's pixelly... it's just pixelly AND blurry now. Anyways, I should be interested to see more from you. I'll be watching. Thanks for the kind words, and now I'll attempt to answer your comments. Firstly, it is the intention for that panel to be grey, not white - if it's wrong have a play with your monitor? and it was 6, not 5, hehe. I'm hoping to make Bean and Bark a Jay and Silent Bob pairing, so Bark will not say much if anything, and will communicate via body language. Shadow already has some information, he just needed to know her current whereabouts to be able to pursue her. Which is what he was acquiring from Bean ^^ And with regards to the pixelating, the intention was to zoom in to emphasise Honey as the target. The blurring wasn't intentional, it's an unfortunate by-product of scaling the background and sprite up. I use Photoshop CS2, and any tips you have - if you are willing to part with them - would be most appreciated as this is a problem that's plagued me for years. Many thanks for the feedback. Note to others: THIS IS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITIQUE <3
	Click to go to my YouTube channel - now over 1,200 subscribers! The Gaming MoD - a blog about gaming, by the Master of Darkness. Other links! Great comics currently in existence on SB(and my own, of course): \|Compensation\|~~Bar'd~~\|~~Park And Ride~~\|~~Sonic: Quest for the Chaos Energy~~\| Want your comic here? Make it a good one then! Where to find me on the net: \|~~Bleached Horizons~~\|~~Pitwall F1~~\|DevART\|


Gale	Jan 4 2010, 09:17 AM Post #6
<3 Posts: 1,779 Group: S Rank Hero Member #3,090 Joined: October 23, 2007 Gender: Female	Quote: Firstly, it is the intention for that panel to be grey, not white - if it's wrong have a play with your monitor? I don't believe there's any error with Dregan's monitor as far as I am aware - however, the speech bubble is slightly translucent and it's also light enough to be mistaken as being white. If I were you, I would have made it darker (perhaps with lighter text if necessary) or red. I was also confused as to who was speaking in those panels. Quote: Shadow already has some information, he just needed to know her current whereabouts to be able to pursue her. Which is what he was acquiring from Bean ^^ That may be the case, but it seemed out of place in the conversation to me, too. Quote: I'm hoping to make Bean and Bark a Jay and Silent Bob pairing, so Bark will not say much if anything, and will communicate via body language. With regards to this, I have to admit that I wasn't paying any attention to Bark. Might I suggest that you draw some more attention to his actions, in future? Quote: And with regards to the pixelating, the intention was to zoom in to emphasise Honey as the target. The blurring wasn't intentional, it's an unfortunate by-product of scaling the background and sprite up. I use Photoshop CS2, and any tips you have - if you are willing to part with them - would be most appreciated as this is a problem that's plagued me for years. Hit Ctrl+K (or go to Edit... Preferences > General) and select "Nearest Neighbour" as your Image Interpolation. Alternatively, resize in MS Paint. Remember only to scale in multiples of 100% unless you're reducing the size. ;P



Lord Master of Darkness™	Jan 6 2010, 04:04 AM Post #7
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	That worked a treat Gale, thank you thank you thank you! Everyone else pay heed - blunt but it's constructive. THIS BOARD NEEDS MOAR, DARN IT. I have taken everyone's comments on board. Some I have worked on, and others I have blatantly ignored in the interests of general confusion ^^ Anybody spots the obvious error and they automatically win a cookie <3 by the time I'd seen it, it was too late so the error has remained <3
	Click to go to my YouTube channel - now over 1,200 subscribers! The Gaming MoD - a blog about gaming, by the Master of Darkness. Other links! Great comics currently in existence on SB(and my own, of course): \|Compensation\|~~Bar'd~~\|~~Park And Ride~~\|~~Sonic: Quest for the Chaos Energy~~\| Want your comic here? Make it a good one then! Where to find me on the net: \|~~Bleached Horizons~~\|~~Pitwall F1~~\|DevART\|


Dregan	Jan 6 2010, 05:47 AM Post #8
The True Awsomifier Posts: 587 Group: A Rank Knight Member #4,223 Joined: December 11, 2007	Hm, good, though there's still a few bits and pieces which bother me. For a start, there's Robotnik's speech bubb;ed in the first panel. Whilst the white central bit looks fine, the black outline looks really rugged and choppy... If you're doing a spikey speech bubble like that, you can afford to straighten it out by maybe using the line tool to outline the spikes and make it more jaggedy. On the subject of Robotnik's speech, I have to say, I'm not a fan of the font used... Whilst it's nice and fancy when it's big, when used normally it just seems a bit squashed and irritating to read... it also has the disadvantage that it doesn't appear to have capital letters, something I at first thought to be sloppy grammar in the first panel, till I realised he continued not to use them... On the note of grammar, couple of mistakes in panel 2. 'How'd we get here so quickly...?' despite being rhetorical, still needs a '?' at the end. Also 'sup has an apostrophe at the front I believe. Panels 3 and 7 seem to have some resizing issues. You seem to've resized to 150%, which is a general no-no as it makes your characters look all weird and blocky due to pixel sizes not matching. It's best to always resize in the hundreds (so 200%, 300%, 400% etc. etc.) to avoid this problem. Talking about resizing, Tails looks kind of bizarre in the final panel... How much him and his tails seem to have been resized in comparison to each other looks kind of odd, both of them holding different levelsof pixel quality because of it... My last problem would be a small one to do with the way the page is written. It starts off with Robotnik going 'I hate that hedgehog!' which is all well and good, and clarifies to us the audience that he's most probably referring to Sonic. However, Bean isn't listening at that point, the only bit said after he starts listening is 'Oh, I would pay handsomely for a hint of how to get him right where I want him!'. 'Him' could really be anyone... well, obviously Bean could probably assume that it was Sonic being referred to, what with it being Robotnik speaking and all, and it's really not that big of a deal, but it just bothered me slightly reading it...
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Lord Master of Darkness™	Jan 6 2010, 07:41 AM Post #9
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	The mighty Dregan speaks again! I'm not worthy that said, let's have a go. The speech bubble was the obvious error - you win a cookie! The lack of capital letters is mostly to do with the font used, I tried and eventually figured screw it - that'll do. I tend to spend the first few parts of any comic just experimenting and seeing how it all glues together. Hence now trying different fonts for each character. Grammar - I'm English and I also have a fairly unique style of typing.. that said, Bean's remark isn't a question, more a statement. And the sup? Pfft, to be honest I'll disregard that as I raped it from an American's dictionary, and their Enlgish MUST be right On a serious note I've never really known it to be wrong and I don't feel greatly like changing it; I'm not a grammar nazi and don't feel like being zealous with my writing. So while your concerns are noted, I don't think they're that big an issue for me to address them Resizing issues... look blocky... to be honest, I don't see what looks odd or off. I like the blocks, they're pixels! All sprites and backgrounds were scaled up to the same level on each individual panel, and to my eye they match... this is something I'll look into though. Tails... man, you're good that was two sprites slapped together to make a new one. You must have really sat down and looked at this when reading nicely spotted. I will concur that there are some very subtle differences, but nothing that really detracts from the enjoyment of the page I hope. And you're concerned with Bean? Go read the last couple of Archie comics he was in and read that again - the guy's a grade A nutter you think he'll zig instead of zag? Hell no, he'll bounce off the ceiling and run across the table before bungee jumping into a warm pot of peanut butter and jelly, as opposed to zagging. He could arguably have been listening all the time, or just massively jumping to conclusions - the guy is seriously barmy like that. But again, thank you for the comments ^^ I've not really tried to make a comic for a long time so please keep it coming. Your feedback makes me appreciate all the more just how much effort you put into your own comic. Thinking of which, Uncle MoD highly recommends y'all go read it if you haven't already so go and do so already if you haven't - click on this link to begin!
	Click to go to my YouTube channel - now over 1,200 subscribers! The Gaming MoD - a blog about gaming, by the Master of Darkness. Other links! Great comics currently in existence on SB(and my own, of course): \|Compensation\|~~Bar'd~~\|~~Park And Ride~~\|~~Sonic: Quest for the Chaos Energy~~\| Want your comic here? Make it a good one then! Where to find me on the net: \|~~Bleached Horizons~~\|~~Pitwall F1~~\|DevART\|


Dregan	Jan 6 2010, 07:54 AM Post #10
The True Awsomifier Posts: 587 Group: A Rank Knight Member #4,223 Joined: December 11, 2007	Thanks for the advertisment. ^^ In response to a couple of things though, the use of the word 'How' at the start of 'How'd we get here so quickly...' makes it a question... it may be rhetorical (aka, one with no expected answer), and as a rhetorical question, could also count as a statement, however a '?' on the end is still correct grammar. To open any statement with a word of question ('How', 'What', 'Why', etc. etc.) makes it either a normal question or rhetorical one, both of which require a '?'. And I am something of a grammar nazi at times, and this is one of those things which I seem to see too many people do, so nyeeeeh. XP Also, on the 'worried about Bean' thing, it's less 'worried about Bean' and more 'How the hell does he know what Robotnik is referring to if he only heard that last bit?' Anyway, I should probably stop complaining now. Other than remembering one thing I forgot to mention before. Panel 1, the spikey speech bubble somewhat overlapping Robotniks face, generally not one of the things you should do. ^^; Anyway, now I'll stop complaining fur reelz. Thanks for listening. Edit: Oh, right, and I forgot also to clarify one thing. When I was referring to the 150% resizing as 'blocky' I could probably've used a better word since, yes, they are pixels. I'll say more 'distorted'. Half the pixels are stretched out to twice the size, whilst have are stretched to 100%. It makes the pixelation more obvious, and takes some smoothness away from the sprite. Edited by Dregan, Jan 6 2010, 07:58 AM.
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Lord Master of Darkness™	Jan 8 2010, 10:15 AM Post #11
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	Number 3 for y'all. Again, no questions are being answered and I suppose at some point I should write a rough script, or at least figure out a general direction lol.
	Click to go to my YouTube channel - now over 1,200 subscribers! The Gaming MoD - a blog about gaming, by the Master of Darkness. Other links! Great comics currently in existence on SB(and my own, of course): \|Compensation\|~~Bar'd~~\|~~Park And Ride~~\|~~Sonic: Quest for the Chaos Energy~~\| Want your comic here? Make it a good one then! Where to find me on the net: \|~~Bleached Horizons~~\|~~Pitwall F1~~\|DevART\|


Gallant Vision	Jan 8 2010, 10:30 AM Post #12
Sky Sanctuary Zone Posts: 6,835 Group: B Rank Legend Member #9,330 Joined: September 4, 2008	Nice. Liking the dark turn that the story is taking.
	I have an interest in spriting. If anyone has a request, don't hesitate to ask. Deep stuff below: Spoiler: click to toggle The world. Filled with millions of differences. But despite the fact, we all are brothers and sisters, Inhabiting and living under the same sky. But despite this, we war and kill our siblings over trivial things, Staining the earth on which we all walk, With the blood of our brothers, With the blood of our sisters. The sky under which we go through our lives weeps, For the clouds surely know of the atrocities we commit. We slay, maim, gouge, and destroy our siblings, In the name of things which ought not be fought for. Approach a member of the family not, With the tainted lash of hatred, But with the pure flower of love. ======================================= The sword. A weapon who's blade is stained red With the blood of its countless victims. Were it alive, what would such a being feel? Would it live only to fight, And fight only to live? Would it be controlled By those with the skill to do so? I believe that it would cry For each person it has ever brought harm to, Its tears as red as the blood it has spilled.


Dregan	Jan 8 2010, 04:56 PM Post #13
The True Awsomifier Posts: 587 Group: A Rank Knight Member #4,223 Joined: December 11, 2007	HOLYCRAPFLOATINGMETALARMSFROMABSOLOUTELYNOWHERE. That is all.
	Dregan has SPRITES! Dregan has COMICS! Dregan has BRAAAAARGH!!!


Lord Master of Darkness™	Jan 15 2010, 12:42 PM Post #14
Posts: 6,570 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,063 Joined: February 19, 2008 Xbox Live Gamertag: The Stig Pwnz Steam ID: mod1982	Hopefully this is just going to start driving some of you insane with confusion. I guess from #5, I should actually begin getting on with some of the plot
	Click to go to my YouTube channel - now over 1,200 subscribers! The Gaming MoD - a blog about gaming, by the Master of Darkness. Other links! Great comics currently in existence on SB(and my own, of course): \|Compensation\|~~Bar'd~~\|~~Park And Ride~~\|~~Sonic: Quest for the Chaos Energy~~\| Want your comic here? Make it a good one then! Where to find me on the net: \|~~Bleached Horizons~~\|~~Pitwall F1~~\|DevART\|


Gallant Vision	Jan 15 2010, 04:02 PM Post #15
Sky Sanctuary Zone Posts: 6,835 Group: B Rank Legend Member #9,330 Joined: September 4, 2008	Vacation Indian giver!
	I have an interest in spriting. If anyone has a request, don't hesitate to ask. Deep stuff below: Spoiler: click to toggle The world. Filled with millions of differences. But despite the fact, we all are brothers and sisters, Inhabiting and living under the same sky. But despite this, we war and kill our siblings over trivial things, Staining the earth on which we all walk, With the blood of our brothers, With the blood of our sisters. The sky under which we go through our lives weeps, For the clouds surely know of the atrocities we commit. We slay, maim, gouge, and destroy our siblings, In the name of things which ought not be fought for. Approach a member of the family not, With the tainted lash of hatred, But with the pure flower of love. ======================================= The sword. A weapon who's blade is stained red With the blood of its countless victims. Were it alive, what would such a being feel? Would it live only to fight, And fight only to live? Would it be controlled By those with the skill to do so? I believe that it would cry For each person it has ever brought harm to, Its tears as red as the blood it has spilled.


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