Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 06:15 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 05:17 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 03:44 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 03:09 PM

People who use PC's know ways to prevent them from getting them in the first place.

My mom uses a PC

so does my grandma

nuff said

And your point is?

They have NO clue what they're doing

as do most people who own PCs.

Don't assume.

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.People who use PC's know ways to prevent them from getting them in the first place.

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 06:35 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 06:15 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 05:17 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 03:44 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 03:09 PM

People who use PC's know ways to prevent them from getting them in the first place.

My mom uses a PC

so does my grandma

nuff said

And your point is?

They have NO clue what they're doing

as do most people who own PCs.

Don't assume.

Oh, so you're saying that just because your mom and grandma don't know much about computers it automatically makes everyone else who uses a PC the same way? Also, you're one to talk about not making assumptions, what you just said is a huge assumption based on people you know personally.

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 10:35 AM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 06:35 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 06:15 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 05:17 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 03:44 PM

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And your point is?

They have NO clue what they're doing

as do most people who own PCs.

Don't assume.

Oh, so you're saying that just because your mom and grandma don't know much about computers it automatically makes everyone else who uses a PC the same way? Also, you're one to talk about not making assumptions, what you just said is a huge assumption based on people you know personally.

You're making more of a generalized assumption. I know three people that are good with computers, and one of them owns a Mac. And when I say good, I mean they're freakin' geniuses.

And I know a TON of people that own PCs, and most of them don't know CRAP when it comes to computers. Saying that most PC owners know what they're doing is absolutely ridiculous, because nearly everyone owns a PC, and not everyone knows what they're doing 80% of the time.

Kitsune Doll

Oct 19 2009, 10:54 AM

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 10:35 AM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 06:35 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 06:15 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 05:17 PM

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They have NO clue what they're doing

as do most people who own PCs.

Don't assume.

Oh, so you're saying that just because your mom and grandma don't know much about computers it automatically makes everyone else who uses a PC the same way? Also, you're one to talk about not making assumptions, what you just said is a huge assumption based on people you know personally.

You're making more of a generalized assumption. I know three people that are good with computers, and one of them owns a Mac. And when I say good, I mean they're freakin' geniuses.

And I know a TON of people that own PCs, and most of them don't know CRAP when it comes to computers. Saying that most PC owners know what they're doing is absolutely ridiculous, because nearly everyone owns a PC, and not everyone knows what they're doing 80% of the time.

That may be true, but its not like most PC users don't know ANYTHING about computers, saying that they don't know what they're doing would mean that they wouldn't even get anywhere on the computer...They must know SOMETHING about what they're doing, even if they're not computer geniuses. Most people at least know some computer basics, it's not like people are idiots who don't know how to do anything. So they DO know what they're doing with computers, even if some people are slightly computer illiterate. You should be more specific, if people didn't know what they were doing on a computer, they probably wouldn't have one. In fact, part of the main reason I can afford a customized $12,000 Toshiba P500 computer is BECAUSE I know what I'm doing on a computer, I wouldn't have received more scholarship money to get it if I didn't know what I was doing. And again, those are people you know personally, a small percent of billions of the U.S. population, so your assumption is no less general than mine.

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Linux. *Kills thread*

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 07:08 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 19 2009, 10:54 AM

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 10:35 AM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 06:35 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 18 2009, 06:15 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep

Oh, so you're saying that just because your mom and grandma don't know much about computers it automatically makes everyone else who uses a PC the same way? Also, you're one to talk about not making assumptions, what you just said is a huge assumption based on people you know personally.

You're making more of a generalized assumption. I know three people that are good with computers, and one of them owns a Mac. And when I say good, I mean they're freakin' geniuses.

And I know a TON of people that own PCs, and most of them don't know CRAP when it comes to computers. Saying that most PC owners know what they're doing is absolutely ridiculous, because nearly everyone owns a PC, and not everyone knows what they're doing 80% of the time.

That may be true, but its not like most PC users don't know ANYTHING about computers, saying that they don't know what they're doing would mean that they wouldn't even get anywhere on the computer...They must know SOMETHING about what they're doing, even if they're not computer geniuses. Most people at least know some computer basics, it's not like people are idiots who don't know how to do anything. So they DO know what they're doing with computers, even if some people are slightly computer illiterate. You should be more specific, if people didn't know what they were doing on a computer, they probably wouldn't have one. In fact, part of the main reason I can afford a customized $12,000 Toshiba P500 computer is BECAUSE I know what I'm doing on a computer, I wouldn't have received more scholarship money to get it if I didn't know what I was doing. And again, those are people you know personally, a small percent of billions of the U.S. population, so your assumption is no less general than mine.

Anyone that can afford a computer probably does own a computer. Haven't you ever seen TV ads for websites? That's because most people can access the internet in some way. Plus, most people that own computers have PCs. These people can range from the very young to the very old, and saying that a majority of them even know what right-clicking is (I literally just had to explain this to my mom, and trust me, basically all of her friends are just like this, as well as my friend's parents and their friends and so on) is a vast overstatement.

Also, not everyone owns a $12,000 computer. They're making computers more and more accessible and affordable every day.

Minato Arisato

Oct 18 2009, 03:17 PM

From the perspective of a future professional PC technician/network administrator who's in college, the PC is the superior platform and the numbers speak for themselves:



A mere 6.5% in September. Psh.

SOTI

Oct 19 2009, 08:09 AM

Macs are nothing now, they're just horribly-designed pieces of shit with OS X, which is only licensed on Apple hardware. Now that they use Intel-based processors, they can use Windows and Linux now.
But hey, PCs are superior, but I do hate how OEMs love to bloat up factory installs. I like clean installs from my own discs.

Kitsune Doll

Oct 19 2009, 09:27 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 07:08 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 19 2009, 10:54 AM

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 10:35 AM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 18 2009, 06:35 PM

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You're making more of a generalized assumption. I know three people that are good with computers, and one of them owns a Mac. And when I say good, I mean they're freakin' geniuses.

And I know a TON of people that own PCs, and most of them don't know CRAP when it comes to computers. Saying that most PC owners know what they're doing is absolutely ridiculous, because nearly everyone owns a PC, and not everyone knows what they're doing 80% of the time.

That may be true, but its not like most PC users don't know ANYTHING about computers, saying that they don't know what they're doing would mean that they wouldn't even get anywhere on the computer...They must know SOMETHING about what they're doing, even if they're not computer geniuses. Most people at least know some computer basics, it's not like people are idiots who don't know how to do anything. So they DO know what they're doing with computers, even if some people are slightly computer illiterate. You should be more specific, if people didn't know what they were doing on a computer, they probably wouldn't have one. In fact, part of the main reason I can afford a customized $12,000 Toshiba P500 computer is BECAUSE I know what I'm doing on a computer, I wouldn't have received more scholarship money to get it if I didn't know what I was doing. And again, those are people you know personally, a small percent of billions of the U.S. population, so your assumption is no less general than mine.

Anyone that can afford a computer probably does own a computer. Haven't you ever seen TV ads for websites? That's because most people can access the internet in some way. Plus, most people that own computers have PCs. These people can range from the very young to the very old, and saying that a majority of them even know what right-clicking is (I literally just had to explain this to my mom, and trust me, basically all of her friends are just like this, as well as my friend's parents and their friends and so on) is a vast overstatement.

Also, not everyone owns a $12,000 computer. They're making computers more and more accessible and affordable every day.

Again, you can't accurately say anything about the vast majority if you're only basing your experience on people you know. For all you know, the people are just a little behind where you live and they're an exception to how most people know their way around a computer in this day and age. Also, I'm not saying that everyone has a $1200 computer, I'm saying that I have it partly because of my knowledge of computers. What's ridiculous is how you keep referring to everyone who owns a PC as someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Just because all the people YOU know who own PC's aren't computer literate doesn't automatically make "most" people who use a PC that way. You couldn't possibly know enough people for an accurate representation of the country's population...Therefore, it's most people YOU know, not most people in general. Think about it, most professional computer programmers use PC's, we wouldn't have some of the advancements in computer technology we have today if "most" people who use PC's don't know about computers. You're making it sound like you're saying that only idiots who don't know the difference between a kilogram and a kilobyte use PC's, which is far from the truth.

Kitsune Doll

 

People who use PC's know ways to prevent them from getting them in the first place.

Minato Arisato

Oct 19 2009, 08:36 PM

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Linux. *Kills thread*

Reminds me, you have a choice between Windows, Linux, or even something like DOS and OS/2 if you can hack it. Macs is all just Mac OS X, and maybe Windows if you're lucky. And on the same tangent, you can't get Mac OS X for PC. Ugh.

Rhapsody~

Oct 20 2009, 04:34 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 19 2009, 09:27 PM

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 07:08 PM

Kitsune Doll

Oct 19 2009, 10:54 AM

Rhapsody~

Oct 19 2009, 10:35 AM

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That may be true, but its not like most PC users don't know ANYTHING about computers, saying that they don't know what they're doing would mean that they wouldn't even get anywhere on the computer...They must know SOMETHING about what they're doing, even if they're not computer geniuses. Most people at least know some computer basics, it's not like people are idiots who don't know how to do anything. So they DO know what they're doing with computers, even if some people are slightly computer illiterate. You should be more specific, if people didn't know what they were doing on a computer, they probably wouldn't have one. In fact, part of the main reason I can afford a customized $12,000 Toshiba P500 computer is BECAUSE I know what I'm doing on a computer, I wouldn't have received more scholarship money to get it if I didn't know what I was doing. And again, those are people you know personally, a small percent of billions of the U.S. population, so your assumption is no less general than mine.

Anyone that can afford a computer probably does own a computer. Haven't you ever seen TV ads for websites? That's because most people can access the internet in some way. Plus, most people that own computers have PCs. These people can range from the very young to the very old, and saying that a majority of them even know what right-clicking is (I literally just had to explain this to my mom, and trust me, basically all of her friends are just like this, as well as my friend's parents and their friends and so on) is a vast overstatement.

Also, not everyone owns a $12,000 computer. They're making computers more and more accessible and affordable every day.

Again, you can't accurately say anything about the vast majority if you're only basing your experience on people you know. For all you know, the people are just a little behind where you live and they're an exception to how most people know their way around a computer in this day and age. Also, I'm not saying that everyone has a $1200 computer, I'm saying that I have it partly because of my knowledge of computers. What's ridiculous is how you keep referring to everyone who owns a PC as someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Just because all the people YOU know who own PC's aren't computer literate doesn't automatically make "most" people who use a PC that way. You couldn't possibly know enough people for an accurate representation of the country's population...Therefore, it's most people YOU know, not most people in general. Think about it, most professional computer programmers use PC's, we wouldn't have some of the advancements in computer technology we have today if "most" people who use PC's don't know about computers. You're making it sound like you're saying that only idiots who don't know the difference between a kilogram and a kilobyte use PC's, which is far from the truth.

You do realize that for those 8/10 doctors prefer blah blah blah thing, that's considered nation-wide? That these 10 doctors reflect the rest of the nation? And for national surveys, not EVERYONE in America is surveyed? That's because a group of people necessarily can reflect the opinion/skill/whatever the hell else of the rest of the nation. It's just scaled down. >____>

And I'm not saying that every computer idiot owns a PC. I'm saying that not every PC owner is the genius you're saying they are.

Also, I don't really care if you're good with computers or if you own a $12,000 PC because that's entirely irrelevant to the argument.

I'm also not saying that the ONLY computer idiots that actually own computers have PCs for god-knows-what reason, I'm disputing your argument that PCs are only for the computer savvy.

Kitsune Doll

 

People who use PC's know ways to prevent them from getting them in the first place.

Which is why I said, in the first place, that not everyone that owns a PC knows exactly what they're doing 100% of the time.