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FC Help; Tying things together
Topic Started: Sep 3 2009, 01:59 PM (272 Views)
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Okay. This has been nagging at the back of my head for a while now. My main (and pretty much only) FC, Ryan, has a few thing about him. I've had these things official for a while now, but, looking back on it, I seems a little, well, scattered. I figured I should try and change (or at least better explain) why some of the things are, and try and give them some correlation to each other.


  • Pyrokinetic abilities

  • robotic right prosthetic arm that has the ability to basically transform into "anything" (Technopathy?)

  • Father that went missing, came back evil, and died a horrible death (which was partially/mostly Ryan's fault)

  • (undecided fact) Mother that also went missing

  • Lifelong Friendship with Jane (who is also his "mechanic")

  • "incredibly" Strong, agile, fast ( fast for normal people, but not Sonic fast) and overall well built, has a fighting style based off of a martial art combined with breakdancing moves (?)

  • Is best know for being quick to anger and could be considered very hotheaded and stubborn most of the time. But, deep down, he is very goal driven, has a strong sense of justice, and is loyal to his "true friends". He also loves to "crack jokes" and always tries to makes the best out of a bad situation. (which may be partially due to his loyalty to his friends)

And some other fun stuff:

  • Love for spicy food (to the point of occasionally drinking straight form a hot sauce bottle)

  • Love of Red Bull (or whatever similar drink on Mobius)

  • Incredible cooking skill (partly due to him having the ultimate kitchen utensil affixed his right shoulder) which is often disregarded due to him making it far too spicy.

  • Hate (not fear, hate) of swimming and ice.

  • Is agnostic
Edited by A Spades Ω, Sep 6 2009, 10:56 PM.
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First off, I'm not sure if this is the right section, but I'm sure a mod can move it if it's not. Now, the only thing I have a problem with is the ulimate kitchen utensil thing. That one, and the right arm, is the one I really think needs an explanation.
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Well, Miracle said I was to post it here, and I figured she'd be right about this sort of thing. As for the arm, I do agree it needs an explanation (I have a few ideas, but I need some help too) But this is more for helping me not only make things make sense, but make things make sense together.
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Well, if Mira said you should post it here, I'm sure she knows what she's talking about.

Think you could tell us these ideas you have?
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Not really. when I said I had ideas, I meant more like "thoughts that might evolve into something comprehensible". I'm more of a person that work with other's ideas, bouncing off of theirs and adding in my own. (i.e, I need to be enabled to making any of my own decisions. XD )
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Why not go with the basic explanation, at a young age, Ryan was in some sort of horrible accident (if you want you could also link this to his parents disapearence?)
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Yeah, but everyone gets in a horrible accident as a child that results in the loss of their parents. Too cliched (and I'm ashamed to admit that I've done it too... >_> ).

The arm needs to have a more clear-cut definition. How does it transform into so many forms? Is it comprised of nanites rather than solid metal? Liquid organic metal that changes form? Replicator blocks perhaps (SG-1 reference, whoo!)?

His pyrokinetic abilities may actually tap into his body's core temperature in order to operate, which would explain the addiction to spicy foods. Tabasco = gets hot = bigger fireworks. Thus, in cold environments, he would need to heat himself up to be able to use his powers.

That then leads to two more things; power control and power fuel.

Power Fuel: When he uses his powers, are they simply reliant on how hot Ryan is, or does it actually sap away at his body heat (using too much would cause him to be cold, even to the point of frostbite).

Power Control: If he doesn't fuel his powers with body heat, think about this; if his powers are reliant on how hot he is, and he generates an aura of fire about himself (or even something as little as a wall of fire or a fireball), that would heat him up even more, correct? Thus, a hotter aura is made, heating him up even further, and the cycle continues, increasing his power exponentially. Does this increase have a limit? If it increases too much, could he lose control of the power and do a Peter Petrelli (blow up and take out a city the size of New York)? At what point does it become too dangerous to use this rapid increase of power without causing collateral damage and melting the flesh of anyone nearby?

That's all I can think of off the top of my head right now.
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Sep 3 2009, 07:31 PM
Yeah, but everyone gets in a horrible accident as a child that results in the loss of their parents. Too cliched (and I'm ashamed to admit that I've done it too... >_> ).
Yeah, and not to say they both died (I'm actually stating to go back on the mother missing thing... maybe not. I have an idea.) But the father didn't die- he just went missing. (while it is assumed by all of the characters that he did die. Well, at least until he re-appears.) I just think the same think happening to both of them just makes it cliche-y-er.

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The arm needs to have a more clear-cut definition. How does it transform into so many forms? Is it comprised of nanites rather than solid metal? Liquid organic metal that changes form? Replicator blocks perhaps (SG-1 reference, whoo!)?

See, that's sort of why I created this thread. I need some ideas from others to bounce off of. Although I'm pretty sure that it wasn't originally part of the prosthetic's design (which was made, and is currently maintained by, someone of his age), I'm not sure how or why it does have that ability. In fact, all I know now is that I want it to be. XP

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Power Fuel: When he uses his powers, are they simply reliant on how hot Ryan is, or does it actually sap away at his body heat (using too much would cause him to be cold, even to the point of frostbite).

Again, not too sure. While the first option seems preferable, the second one seems more "realistic". I originally thought it as not only flame manipulation, but temperature manipulation also. Does/can metabolism have any sort of hand in this? (thus the Red Bullgeneric energy drink addiction/dependency?)

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Power Control: If he doesn't fuel his powers with body heat, think about this; if his powers are reliant on how hot he is, and he generates an aura of fire about himself (or even something as little as a wall of fire or a fireball), that would heat him up even more, correct? Thus, a hotter aura is made, heating him up even further, and the cycle continues, increasing his power exponentially. Does this increase have a limit? If it increases too much, could he lose control of the power and do a Peter Petrelli (blow up and take out a city the size of New York)? At what point does it become too dangerous to use this rapid increase of power without causing collateral damage and melting the flesh of anyone nearby?

That does make sense. As for the limit, I'm considering that he would, like you said, have some sort of power source, rather than just being able to infinitely heat his body. I'd say that his ability to heat himself is limited by the amount his body can take (He can withstand more heat than most, but he wouldn't survive, say, a lava-bath) but also how much "fuel" he has, which is, as you T.B.A as of now.

(P.S: I'm sorry if I didn't answer your question correctly/as good as possible, but, well, I'm not that good with this kind of thing. Haven't really been into this Role-playing/character creating thing that long.)



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See, that's sort of why I created this thread. I need some ideas from others to bounce off of. Although I'm pretty sure that it wasn't originally part of the prosthetic's design (which was made, and is currently maintained by, someone of his age), I'm not sure how or why it does have that ability. In fact, all I know now is that I want it to be. XP


Depending on the forms the arm can take, alwyas keep in mind that every part must have a place somewhere. This isn't the original series of Transformers; bits don't just magically vanish. XD

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Again, not too sure. While the first option seems preferable, the second one seems more "realistic". I originally thought it as not only flame manipulation, but temperature manipulation also. Does/can metabolism have any sort of hand in this? (thus the Red Bullgeneric energy drink addiction/dependency?)


The temperature manipulation would tie in well with the reliance on heat, I'm thinking... but using it on the self would be a limited process (otherwise we get the whole explosion of power thing happening again, LOL). As for metabolism... well, I'm afraid I don't have the answer for that; my knowledge of that sort of stuff is limited at best. ^_^;; Someone else might be able to answer that question for you, but as far as I know, energy drinks like Red Bull are designed to increase reaction and alertness rather than temperature.

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That does make sense. As for the limit, I'm considering that he would, like you said, have some sort of power source, rather than just being able to infinitely heat his body. I'd say that his ability to heat himself is limited by the amount his body can take (He can withstand more heat than most, but he wouldn't survive, say, a lava-bath) but also how much "fuel" he has, which is, as you T.B.A as of now.


Sounds good.

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(P.S: I'm sorry if I didn't answer your question correctly/as good as possible, but, well, I'm not that good with this kind of thing. Haven't really been into this Role-playing/character creating thing that long.)


No problem. That's why we're here to help. ;) Besides, what you've got so far is great; it just needs a lil' sharpening.
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Sep 3 2009, 09:01 PM
Depending on the forms the arm can take, always keep in mind that every part must have a place somewhere. This isn't the original series of Transformers; bits don't just magically vanish.

Yeah, I was actually thinking in the sense of the movieverse Transformers, where they have an exact placement at point A (Regular arm mode for Ryan, Vehicle mode for the transformer) And point B (arm=whatever TF='bot mode), but the stages taken to go from one to the other is undetermined. This would make all of the modes "bayformersish" besides the main arm mode, which would be much more smooth and streamline. After thinking about it, I think the answer to this ability might be Technopathy, but we arrive at another problem: tying it in with his pyrokinesis.

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The temperature manipulation would tie in well with the reliance on heat, I'm thinking... but using it on the self would be a limited process (otherwise we get the whole explosion of power thing happening again, LOL). As for metabolism... well, I'm afraid I don't have the answer for that; my knowledge of that sort of stuff is limited at best. ^_^;; Someone else might be able to answer that question for you, but as far as I know, energy drinks like Red Bull are designed to increase reaction and alertness rather than temperature.
Well, after thinking about it, I'm leaning more towards the second option you gave me; the one where he could heat him self using his initial power, which in turn would increase his pyrokinetic abilities, which could, in theory, make him infinitely more powerful, but, there needs to be a toll of some kind...

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No problem. That's why we're here to help. ;) Besides, what you've got so far is great; it just needs a lil' sharpening.
And that's why I'm here. XD

(P.S: I changed/am changing the first post a little, so check that while you check this one)
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Well, after thinking about it, I'm leaning more towards the second option you gave me; the one where he could heat him self using his initial power, which in turn would increase his pyrokinetic abilities, which could, in theory, make him infinitely more powerful, but, there needs to be a toll of some kind...
You yourself said he can only handle so much heat. Prolonged 'hyperheating' (shall we call it for now) would result in cooking himself to death (slowly at first, then more and more rapidly) and possibly eventuating in...

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Which could actually lead to a very interesting super form. XD

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