Christian School Suspends Teen. Sieg Heil or Hail Mary?

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Christian School Suspends Teen. Sieg Heil or Hail Mary?
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Cy-Fox	May 12 2009, 05:48 PM Post #1
We are still watching Posts: 3,486 Group: =SB= Kings Member #3,975 Joined: November 29, 2007 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Steam ID: cy-fox	Quote: Tyler Frost went against the school's code and attended Findlay HS prom It's a story that's making headlines across the country: Footloose in Findlay! A senior at Heritage Christian school is now officially suspended and banned from graduation after taking his girlfriend to Findlay high school's prom! This morning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost stood across the street from Heritage Christian school in Findlay speaking to the media about the consequences of attending Findlay high school's prom. The principal suspended Tyler through the end of the school year and is banning him from walking in his cap and gown, claiming he violated the student conduct code. Tyler Frost went against the school's code and attended Findlay HS prom It's a story that's making headlines across the country: Footloose in Findlay! A senior at Heritage Christian school is now officially suspended and banned from graduation after taking his girlfriend to Findlay high school's prom! This morning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost stood across the street from Heritage Christian school in Findlay speaking to the media about the consequences of attending Findlay high school's prom. The principal suspended Tyler through the end of the school year and is banning him from walking in his cap and gown, claiming he violated the student conduct code. Story continues below Advertisement Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. The principal was not willing to go on camera, but did post a question on the school's website, questioning Tyler's decision, asking "Should Christians place themselves at an event where young ladies will have low-cut dresses and be dancing in them?" Tyler's family is asking the school to have good faith in the student's values. His stepfather Stephan Johnson says, "If what they're teaching is right, they should have known he would make the right decisions." The principal told 13abc he is standing by his decision and will not reconsider. Even without the pomp and circumstance, Tyler and his girlfriend Becca say they'd do it all over again. Tyler will receive his diploma from Heritage Christian. Principal Tim England says he can take his final exams after the ceremony later this month. Today on Twitter, we asked "What do you think about the Heritage Christian senior who was suspended for attending the Findlay high school prom?" Cynthia Hampton wrote: If he gets suspended, let's take a look at the faculty and their after-hours examples. Darcy Smolenski responded: Yeah, that's a crock. But the reality is the kid and his parents probably signed a contract upon enrollment. Fine print's a killer. There are more of your answers at Twitter where we want to continue to hear from you on the prom controversy and other news-related topics. Religion extremism at its best. Now let's see here, this happened outside of school hours at grounds that are not owned by Heritage. Heritage loses automatically, the end. Sad that this happened at a place I know of well. But before I go, here's a couple videos to see: From your local friendly athiest/agnostic Cy-Fox



Lady BlizShadow	May 12 2009, 06:49 PM Post #2
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Darcy Smolenski Yeah, that's a crock. But the reality is the kid and his parents probably signed a contract upon enrollment. Fine print's a killer. I have an inkling that amidst the facepalm-worthy religion and theist bashing that is sure to ensue in this thread, this quote from the article will probably be the most intelligent statement present.
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RabidChoco	May 12 2009, 06:56 PM Post #3
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Sakura Courage Solo	May 12 2009, 10:02 PM Post #4
Hydrocity Act 2 Posts: 111 Group: B Rank Adventurer Member #9,890 Joined: April 6, 2009	All right, FIRSTLY, if they signed a contract upon enrollment then the guy SHOULD have abided by it. If you sign something, that's an agreement and commitment. Signing something you're not agreeing with or abiding by is a lie and a sin. However, the faculty and staff shouldn't have much say in what goes on in a student's life off campus. Now if he was drinking and drugging I could understand them suspending him or even expelling him, but all he did was go to a prom. Now this is also granted that if it was indeed a prom whereas the girls were half-dressed and such, then he indeed shouldn't've been there, but its not the school's place to tell him where he can go and what he can do when he's off campus. That's the parents' job. Now me? I actually used to go to a Christian School (What few years I wasn't homeschooled), but I followed the rules according to what contracts and papers were signed and such, followed the rules of my religion, etc. and I never got into trouble... except with the other students, but they usually started the fights and I'd have to kick their butts in self defense, but I digress... Condensed down, its not the school's business what he does off campus/outside of school hours (That's the parents' job), unless he signed a contract that made it their business. Now if that last part is true, then he put his own butt in a sling by breaking the contract he signed and should be by all means suspended.
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~~Venoma3d~~	May 12 2009, 10:28 PM Post #5
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,447 Group: Game Over :( Member #2,895 Joined: October 13, 2007	Lolwut ? I attend a Catholic/Christian school but a paper which prohibits dancing, rock music, holding ha-what is this ? A medieval church ? Seriously I'm surprised by this, what sort of morons take things to that extreme levels ? Sure we have to pray in the beginning of nearly all lessons but prohibiting rock music, dancing ? Sounds like a order of nuns/monks not a real school. But if he signed a contract that stated what he can and can't do inside or outside school, then he should have followed the rules, IT'S TEH LAW. The kid will learn to follow the rules. >:C



Lord Tora Unlimited Crusader	May 12 2009, 11:19 PM Post #6
【The Knight of Tigers 】 Posts: 5,462 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,733 Joined: March 17, 2008 Gender: Male Country: Australia 3DS Friend Code: 0404-6433-6113 Steam ID: crusaderandtimothy	Fine print is for losers of the Lawful alignment. What kind of religion prohibits such petty - LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN'T HEAR ME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD THERE - P-E-T-Y-Y- "That's P-E-T-T-Y, TUC." ... P-E-T-T-Y behaviours such as dancing. Rock music, yeah, kinda understandable. Kissing and hand-holding... nnnnng, alright, if you're gonna be mega-prudes about it... BUT DANCING? Everyone dances, you half-baked, broom-up-the-ass, PINGAS-headed whackjobs! takes a breath and continues Now, I'm not fan of religion, yeah? But I take most of it's idiocies in my stride. THIS, however, just takes the biscuit and eats it under my nose. Seriously, this is the most callous and immoral disrespect of human freedom I've ever seen in this modern day and age short of actual slavery. CHAOTIC GOOD TUC DOES NOT APPROVE OF THIS CRAP AND NEITHER DOES THE KING.
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~~Eprahim~~	May 13 2009, 04:09 AM Post #7
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,075 Group: Game Over :( Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007	... no. Now, apart from the fact that I keep to make ALL you guys know that nowhere in the article is spoken about a contract and that stuff, but just "Student's code" (And that is a tad different), I can simply say that religion itself is created as a matter of rules that must be followed throughout the promise of a fake salvation. Guess what. Upon looking religio up in the Latin dictionary (It's not religo, as many may think. That means "untie") it comes up that the first definition is nothing else than "respect, fear of the gods, superstition." And the rest is silence.



Gallant Vision	May 13 2009, 06:20 AM Post #8
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Lord Tails Fanatic	May 13 2009, 09:51 AM Post #9
Posts: 4,340 Group: Former Monarchs Member #4,694 Joined: December 31, 2007	Things like this are sorta why I don't trust many Christians and they have to gain my trust before I become friends with them. Schools like this want you to think just like them or you are bad. That's why religion I somethings thing is just contradicting itself, since they always say we are suppose to love everyone, but that's only if you think like I do. If your different your evil and going to hell. Some of the meanest people I've ever met were Christians. I have nothing against religion as a whole, because I do believe. I just don't like a large majority of the followers since they interpret the Bible WAY WAY wrong. I would have read the school conduct or contract before hand, and if I saw that, I would have throw the book back at the principal and rushed out of there. It's a stupid school.
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Sakura Courage Solo	May 13 2009, 09:52 AM Post #10
Hydrocity Act 2 Posts: 111 Group: B Rank Adventurer Member #9,890 Joined: April 6, 2009	Actually Edgeworth? There's no matter of rules that have to be followed for one to have salvation other than actually getting saved by praying the sinner's prayer, asking Christ to forgive your sins and belieiving the five articles of the Christian Faith (I.E. The virgin birth, death, burial, resurrection, etc.), and that salvation is eternal once one is saved. Now I know you're gonna throw at me, "You said earlier you follow the rules of your religion!". Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with my salvation. That's serving God. Just because my sins are forgiven doesn't mean I don't sin sometimes. We all do. Its just that they're forgiven. Thinking that you need to follow a set of rules perfectly to keep your salvation is not what the Bible says. "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Okay, sorry. I know I got off on a bit of a religious rant there, but I just wanted to clear things up a bit. n.n; Oh, and one last thing TUC. Its not as much the dancing as what was going on at the dance. I.E. half dressed girls and such. I have a lot of Christian friends who play Dance Dance Revolution and such and think nothing of it. I in fact LOVE DDR. And rock music isn't bad as long as its not profane and doesn't give bad ideas if you know what I'm getting at. (Sorry I didn't word that better. Allergy meds have me a little lightheaded today.) Okay, I'm shutting up now.
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Gale	May 13 2009, 11:03 AM Post #11
<3 Posts: 1,779 Group: S Rank Hero Member #3,090 Joined: October 23, 2007 Gender: Female	Sakura Courage Solo May 13 2009, 09:52 AM Actually Edgeworth? There's no matter of rules that have to be followed for one to have salvation other than actually getting saved by praying the sinner's prayer, asking Christ to forgive your sins and belieiving the five articles of the Christian Faith (I.E. The virgin birth, death, burial, resurrection, etc.), and that salvation is eternal once one is saved. Now I know you're gonna throw at me, "You said earlier you follow the rules of your religion!". Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with my salvation. That's serving God. Just because my sins are forgiven doesn't mean I don't sin sometimes. We all do. Its just that they're forgiven. Thinking that you need to follow a set of rules perfectly to keep your salvation is not what the Bible says. "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Okay, sorry. I know I got off on a bit of a religious rant there, but I just wanted to clear things up a bit. n.n; Sakura, that was a brilliant post, but I have to comment on this one last bit... Quote: Oh, and one last thing TUC. Its not as much the dancing as what was going on at the dance. I.E. half dressed girls and such. I have a lot of Christian friends who play Dance Dance Revolution and such and think nothing of it. I in fact LOVE DDR. And rock music isn't bad as long as its not profane and doesn't give bad ideas if you know what I'm getting at. (Sorry I didn't word that better. Allergy meds have me a little lightheaded today.) Okay, I'm shutting up now. TUC wasn't really commenting on the incident as a whole, but rather this bit of the article: Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing.



SuperShadowgal	May 13 2009, 11:04 AM Post #12
The Female Ultimate Life Form! Posts: 3,112 Group: E Rank Legend Member #59 Joined: April 29, 2006	Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. Huh what? What sort of strange backwards school is this. Those are some pretty harsh rules. Extreme religious standards at their best... Edited by SuperShadowgal, May 13 2009, 11:05 AM.
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~~Eprahim~~	May 13 2009, 11:05 AM Post #13
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,075 Group: Game Over :( Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007	Cross examination time. <3 Quote: Actually Edgeworth? There's no matter of rules that have to be followed for one to have salvation other than actually getting saved by praying the sinner's prayer, asking Christ to forgive your sins and belieiving the five articles of the Christian Faith (I.E. The virgin birth, death, burial, resurrection, etc.), and that salvation is eternal once one is saved. I'm gonna go with the most classical one. Ten commandments. It's not just praying. There are some actual rules made to obey and to keep society at a "normal" level, offering hell as a punishment. The research of man over death... that's the main weapon of religion. Quote: Now I know you're gonna throw at me, "You said earlier you follow the rules of your religion!". Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with my salvation. That's serving God. Just because my sins are forgiven doesn't mean I don't sin sometimes. We all do. Its just that they're forgiven. Thinking that you need to follow a set of rules perfectly to keep your salvation is not what the Bible says. Yes, it has. To serve god there are rules you are keen to follow. Also, it may not be the Bible (source of so many contradictions my fudgeing head hurts), but what about Christian culture? Try and deny it. Quote: "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." So if Hitler before dying prayed God he went to heaven? Smooth logic there, pal.



Gale	May 13 2009, 11:05 AM Post #14
<3 Posts: 1,779 Group: S Rank Hero Member #3,090 Joined: October 23, 2007 Gender: Female	SuperShadowgal May 13 2009, 11:04 AM Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. Quote: Each student pledges to abide by the code that prohibits dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing. Huh what? What sort of strange backwards school is this. Extreme religious standards at their best... It's not even religious extremism, it's utter tripe. There's nothing in the bible against dancing, any sort of music, kissing or hand holding.



Fwiss	May 13 2009, 01:06 PM Post #15
Sandopolis Act 1 Posts: 1,567 Group: S Rank Hero Member #9,080 Joined: June 18, 2008 Gender: Male Steam ID: fwiss1174	I'm a christian, but NOT an extremist. I strongly believe we should not force our own religion on people. Luckily, I attend a public school. I understand belief in a unprovable thing is ignorant, but the way I do my religion, I make sure not to hurt anybody. The extremists are what give any religion a bad name . I actually have an extremist friend, and its a miracle we get along. What really angers me is people who believe that America is based on Christianity. Example of Christian extremists: Adolf Hitler The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. George Bush "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
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