Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 11:57 AM

RaDaR125

Apr 24 2009, 12:49 PM

Chaos Factor

Apr 23 2009, 04:42 PM

Sonic Team REALIZED POTENTIALS in Sonic Unleashed? This statement itself is flawed. Unleashed offered no more than any other Sonic game. It was horrible as a Sonic game, I cannot believe it is given credit. Sonic Unleashed had LESS potential than Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and SatSR.

Ray, for the love of God, calm down. People are allowed their own opinions. *glares at Snooky* Same goes for you.

Ray, you can only comment on the Wii version, NOT THE HIGHER TIER VERSION. So by saying it was horrible as a Sonic game, you are only really criticising Dimps, who worked on the majority of the Wii version. So please, either play the 360/PS3 version ALL the way through or don't comment like this. Sonic Team's main focus was the 360 version, otherwise their launch trailer would've shown the Wii version. You can honestly say that this had less potential than this?!

For godness sake...

The werehog says enough.

RaDaR125

Apr 25 2009, 12:38 PM

Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 11:57 AM

RaDaR125

Apr 24 2009, 12:49 PM

Chaos Factor

Apr 23 2009, 04:42 PM

Sonic Team REALIZED POTENTIALS in Sonic Unleashed? This statement itself is flawed. Unleashed offered no more than any other Sonic game. It was horrible as a Sonic game, I cannot believe it is given credit. Sonic Unleashed had LESS potential than Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and SatSR.

Ray, for the love of God, calm down. People are allowed their own opinions. *glares at Snooky* Same goes for you.

Ray, you can only comment on the Wii version, NOT THE HIGHER TIER VERSION. So by saying it was horrible as a Sonic game, you are only really criticising Dimps, who worked on the majority of the Wii version. So please, either play the 360/PS3 version ALL the way through or don't comment like this. Sonic Team's main focus was the 360 version, otherwise their launch trailer would've shown the Wii version. You can honestly say that this had less potential than this?!

For godness sake...

The werehog says enough.

... Umm, no it doesn't. You wouldn't be complaining if the werehog played exactly the same as SA2 Sonic, would you? You cannot judge a game by only one of the mechanics.

Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 05:06 PM

RaDaR125

Apr 25 2009, 12:38 PM

Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 11:57 AM

RaDaR125

Apr 24 2009, 12:49 PM

Chaos Factor

Apr 23 2009, 04:42 PM

Sonic Team REALIZED POTENTIALS in Sonic Unleashed? This statement itself is flawed. Unleashed offered no more than any other Sonic game. It was horrible as a Sonic game, I cannot believe it is given credit. Sonic Unleashed had LESS potential than Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and SatSR.

Ray, for the love of God, calm down. People are allowed their own opinions. *glares at Snooky* Same goes for you.

Ray, you can only comment on the Wii version, NOT THE HIGHER TIER VERSION. So by saying it was horrible as a Sonic game, you are only really criticising Dimps, who worked on the majority of the Wii version. So please, either play the 360/PS3 version ALL the way through or don't comment like this. Sonic Team's main focus was the 360 version, otherwise their launch trailer would've shown the Wii version. You can honestly say that this had less potential than this?!

For godness sake...

The werehog says enough.

... Umm, no it doesn't. You wouldn't be complaining if the werehog played exactly the same as SA2 Sonic, would you? You cannot judge a game by only one of the mechanics.

True, you have a good point there. But the werehog changes the form of a mascoyt known for 15+ years. He doesn't belong to that form and should no way be regarded as Sonic. This is why the werehog says enough. Sonic Unleashed is not Sonic, it's werehog.

RaDaR125

Apr 26 2009, 02:32 AM

Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 05:06 PM

RaDaR125

Apr 25 2009, 12:38 PM

Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 11:57 AM

RaDaR125

Apr 24 2009, 12:49 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepthis had less potential than this?!

For godness sake...

The werehog says enough.

... Umm, no it doesn't. You wouldn't be complaining if the werehog played exactly the same as SA2 Sonic, would you? You cannot judge a game by only one of the mechanics.

True, you have a good point there. But the werehog changes the form of a mascoyt known for 15+ years. He doesn't belong to that form and should no way be regarded as Sonic. This is why the werehog says enough. Sonic Unleashed is not Sonic, it's werehog.

Ray, how on Earth is the werehog not Sonic? He still seems to keep all his emotions, thoughts AND personality. It's even arguable that his speed was kept, but transfered into agility. What he lacked in leg speed, he made up for in arm speed. It was an unorthodox form, but the only major change was his appearance. Heck, in some ways, he was the same speed as normal Sonic in Adventure.

Chaos Factor

Apr 25 2009, 05:06 PM

True, you have a good point there. But the werehog changes the form of a mascoyt known for 15+ years. He doesn't belong to that form and should no way be regarded as Sonic. This is why the werehog says enough. Sonic Unleashed is not Sonic, it's werehog.

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I don't see how discussing the Werehog is off-topic. It pertains to whether or not Sonic Unleashed was the turning point of the franchise...which I seriously don't think it was.

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Bliz, you can go on for miles about how the Werehog is representative of Sonic's hidden emotion, the polar opposite of his persona that has all this irony and poetry and whatnot involved, but the simple fact is that people did not like it. It was to Unleashed as the music was to Rush, as the repetitive questing was to Black Knight. It's the worst aspect of the game: whether or not you think so, consensus reality beats all your debates without lifting a finger, I'm sorry to say.

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Thus, no matter how much effort one puts into making it seem as though the Werehog concept in Sonic is the equivalent of Newspeak in 1984 in terms of significance, it will never stop being a bad idea and the blow that killed an otherwise good game. Unleashed might've been the turning point, but it didn't happen, obviously, because Sega is still saying "This next game will be the one that brings Sonic back to his glory days."

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Do not use this topic as a ground to state your raging hate or, if you're one of the other seven fans the Werehog has, your undying admiration of the character. This is for the purpose of discussing the character's depth, not whether or not you think he is actually a good or bad one.

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Fast and fun. Until the sun goes down and it gets hairy and ham-fisted. {Incidentally, this reviewer gave Unleashed the third-highest grade it received on Metacritic.}

Sonic Unleashed is both one of the best Sonic games we've ever played and one of the dullest. If you can put up with the werehog levels you'll love it. {Fourth highest.}

To be quite frank, Sonic Unleashed is half great game, and half unnecessarily unleashed. The Sonic levels are extremely fun and bring back the memories of yesteryear, and the night-time levels will leave players wondering why Sonic Team continues to torture their fans by continuing to add pointless things to prolong good gameplay. {Fifth highest.}

The real problem is the werehog stages. Luckily, those levels aren't bad, they're just kinda there. About all they succeed in doing is slowing down the action between the stages that you want to play.

Sonic Unleashed takes two steps forward with some of the best speed levels in recent memory, and one step back by tacking on yet another failed experiment with the Werehog.

Sonic Unleashed has some stellar moments that remind me of better Sonic games from days gone by, but players will have to slog through the repetitive night stages to reach them.

The faster Sonic levels are a real treat, and Sonic Unleashed has many high points to balance out the lows. The real bummer is not so much the concept of the werehog sections as it is how these portions of the game painfully drag the rest of the game down.

Even if you have to endure a few too many boring werehog fights, it's still worth playing through this adventure just to see Sonic sprint again.

Sonic Unleashed is certainly a step forward for the Sonic franchise, with great graphics, intuitive controls, a fairly grabbing premise and great level design. Unfortunately, it’s marred by the concept of the Werehog. Sonic simply need to continue this trend of returning to it’s grass roots and before long we’ll be getting 9 and 10/10 Sonic games again.

Sonic Unleashed is incomplete for a game that would be "Sonic's return to the great shape". Of course, even with failures, it can be enjoyed by the most patient people, and by the ones who don't care about the Werehog. But they should have changed the game's name from "Sonic Unleashed" to "Sonic Unfinished".

The best praise that can be given to Sonic Unleashed is to call it a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, the game is heavily weighted towards its werewolf stages.

Sonic Unleashed proves that Sonic Team are back on track with Sonic in some respects, but there's still a way to go before they get it right - trimming the unnecessary night-style stages away, or evening the mix of gameplay, would be a great start.

You can't help but love the daytime levels, but as soon as night hits the game, you will be desperate to turn off your console.

Even if you can get over the sheer stupidity of making Sonic a big, brawny “Werehog”, and even if the janky, overly finicky platforming doesn’t put you off, answer me this: who the hell wants to brawl in a Sonic game?

A game full of duality. The Hedgehog levels are a lot of fun, and the controls accentuate that. On the flip-side, the Werehog levels are riddled with frustratingly boring combat and gameplay. It never helps that the game can't let go of its ridiculously dumb story.

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Again, the Werehog's quality is synonymous with Unleashed's quality, which determines whether or not Unleashed is the series' turning point.

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Is it against the rules for a thread to progress onto scrutinizing a single relevant argument?

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And usually when someone says "[link] I win ^^" it drives me to click on that link and then, if necessary, argue against them. I'm fairly sure I'm not the only one.

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Ad populum is only a fallacy when you're talking about a philosophical concept, or scientific fact.

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You need to stop pretending that gaming is an exact science and using Latin to deter people from arguing against you while you wax poetic about something that isn't even relevant to whether or not the concept in question is actually good.