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Twilight; Anybody Read?
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 17 2008, 01:54 PM (1,113 Views)
~~Eprahim~~	Nov 25 2008, 07:35 AM Post #31
Lava Reef Act 2 Posts: 4,075 Group: Game Over :( Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007	Yvette Nov 25 2008, 07:25 AM Miracle Nov 25 2008, 05:54 AM Eprahim Nov 25 2008, 05:06 AM Yvette Nov 24 2008, 07:39 PM Eragon is written terribly, but has a relatively strong plot with admirable characters. I hate it anyway. Twilight is at least written decently (although it's not exactly going to become a classic), but the plot it... empty, dead, meaningless, uninspiring. In short, it's stupid. These books have replaced Eragon as my least favorite popular children's series. On the bright side, authors like these encourage me as a writer. Clearly, idiots can publish books if they fill up enough pages. Perhaps because Paolini wrote it when he was... 16? D: I read Eragon and Eldest, and I must say I didn't hate it. (Perhaps because I was 12 years old. XD) Or at least, just Eragon. He was 16? Ineteresting. Though I don't think that will change Yvette's opinion since, from what I've heard, he's 16 too. Eragon was written amazingly for what it was--a 16 year old's fanfic. It's certainly better than anything I, or anyone else I've met online, can do, and deserves some admiration. However, it is not a good book when compared objectively to the world of young-adult fiction it is expected to compete with. Of course, it HAS competed admirably, but this is largely, in my opinion, mostly because it is written to a teenage audience that cares little about the style of the prose, because it has a decent plot, and because a 16 year old wrote it. That is not to say, of course, that 16 year olds can't compete duly with adult authors (although I would never be so pretentious as to delude myself into thinking that I could). The Outsiders, for instance, was written by a 15 year old, but I consider it to be among the classics of children's literature. Quoted for truth.



Royal Conquest	Nov 25 2008, 02:34 PM Post #32
CANADIAN EH Posts: 6,543 Group: B Rank Legend Member #1,702 Joined: July 16, 2007	Eprahim Nov 25 2008, 07:35 AM Yvette Nov 25 2008, 07:25 AM Miracle Nov 25 2008, 05:54 AM Eprahim Nov 25 2008, 05:06 AM Yvette Nov 24 2008, 07:39 PM Eragon is written terribly, but has a relatively strong plot with admirable characters. I hate it anyway. Twilight is at least written decently (although it's not exactly going to become a classic), but the plot it... empty, dead, meaningless, uninspiring. In short, it's stupid. These books have replaced Eragon as my least favorite popular children's series. On the bright side, authors like these encourage me as a writer. Clearly, idiots can publish books if they fill up enough pages. Perhaps because Paolini wrote it when he was... 16? D: I read Eragon and Eldest, and I must say I didn't hate it. (Perhaps because I was 12 years old. XD) Or at least, just Eragon. He was 16? Ineteresting. Though I don't think that will change Yvette's opinion since, from what I've heard, he's 16 too. Eragon was written amazingly for what it was--a 16 year old's fanfic. It's certainly better than anything I, or anyone else I've met online, can do, and deserves some admiration. However, it is not a good book when compared objectively to the world of young-adult fiction it is expected to compete with. Of course, it HAS competed admirably, but this is largely, in my opinion, mostly because it is written to a teenage audience that cares little about the style of the prose, because it has a decent plot, and because a 16 year old wrote it. That is not to say, of course, that 16 year olds can't compete duly with adult authors (although I would never be so pretentious as to delude myself into thinking that I could). The Outsiders, for instance, was written by a 15 year old, but I consider it to be among the classics of children's literature. Quoted for truth. I'm agreeing on that one. XP You can actually see the writing get better as you read through the series however. Paolini's writing is getting better as he writes more. I really enjoyed Brisingr. Yes, the Outsiders is a great book. =3
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Lady BlizShadow	Nov 25 2008, 03:04 PM Post #33
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Yvette, I must say that you are much too forgiving when it comes to literary abortion that is Eragon especially considering you're falling into the trap of thinking that a 15 (not 16) year old wrote it when a 15 year old started it. Paolini was in his early twenties when he actually finished the thing. That's was some five, six, seven years he had to produce something more worthwhile than what actually exists, so not even his age is an excuse for credit. I'm also surprised that you could call the plot relatively strong as your thoughts on Twilight describe exactly what I feel the plot to Eragon is-- empty, dead, meaningless, and uninspiring. Really, all I can give him credit for is that he did manage to publish what is essentially a long fanfic. Now what are we talking about? Oh yes. Twilight. I admittedly did not know about this series until I saw the TV spots for the movie, and even then I didn't know it was based upon a book series. However, those spots turned me off immediately; The movie has that ugly, nouveau, young teeny-bopper, tame horror feel to it that I just utterly despise. So imagine how even more distant I was to it when I heard that it was based off of a controversial book series that appealed best to a bunch of squealing fangirls who lavish their attention on a walking Gary Stu and would give the movie the time of day over something that is actually critically more worthwhile like Bolt. No thank you. I just can't bring myself to indulge in such a media mockery. I'm much at home with my Richard Adams and my Brian Jacques. xP
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Lady Miracle	Nov 25 2008, 03:34 PM Post #34
[insert something cheerful here] Posts: 8,037 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,289 Joined: August 20, 2008	I have to agree, I don't get that whole fangirl bussiness. Edward's a fictional character, yet you see girls saying, "Edward is so cute! Edward is so sweet! Edward is so romantic!". I haven't read the story, but I know I would never do something like that. It sounds so... ridiculous and weird. I checked a link someone left here. There was a link to an article that I decided to read and I was utterly shocked to read it. Someone decided to go buy the fourth book in the series on the same day they were arriving. The fangirls were literally nuts.
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Lady BlizShadow	Nov 25 2008, 03:44 PM Post #35
I still can't use this. Posts: 6,546 Group: Former Monarchs Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008	Seeing as how I'm a part of the Shadow fandom and see stuff like that first hand and am also very interested in characters as a whole, I understand the whole range of feelings one can get from a character. But some of these fans have taken it too far, stepping into the line of immature admiration to something scary as in wanting to marry this Edward fellow; completely irrational. But those extremists are not my beef with the whole of Edward fanbase. If the criticisms I've heard are any indication, he is written so horribly you have to wonder how any rational teenager could care for him to any degree in the first place. That's what annoys me about the fanbase-- they like a cesspool of a character, one arguably worse than the hedgehog I mentioned above. It saddens me.
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Lady Miracle	Nov 25 2008, 03:59 PM Post #36
[insert something cheerful here] Posts: 8,037 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,289 Joined: August 20, 2008	Yes, I had read the criticism. As for the fandom, I understand normal fandom, like yours for Shadow. But you said yourself, Bliz. Some of these girls seem to expect to marry him. I also heard my friend telling my cousin how at the beginning of the story, Edward is described as "perfect", or so she said it. She then said that she was a fangirl of him but now she hated him. I don't really know...
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Cy-Fox	Nov 28 2008, 04:25 PM Post #37
We are still watching Posts: 3,486 Group: =SB= Kings Member #3,975 Joined: November 29, 2007 Gender: Male Country: United States of America Steam ID: cy-fox	Seeing the trailer and the coverage of the fangirls, I'm quite glad that I have access to "Hot Fuzz". PC Nick Angel > Edward Cullen for the simple fact that Nick Angel (Simon Pegg) shot a doctor and told him to deal with it, and he can leap over garden fences like he's got a built in Turbo Boost module from the Knight Industries Two Thousand.



Neo Metallix	Nov 28 2008, 05:02 PM Post #38
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Gale	Nov 28 2008, 05:10 PM Post #39
<3 Posts: 1,779 Group: S Rank Hero Member #3,090 Joined: October 23, 2007 Gender: Female	Twilight: First time I ever enjoyed the movie more than the book.



Royal Conquest	Nov 28 2008, 05:11 PM Post #40
CANADIAN EH Posts: 6,543 Group: B Rank Legend Member #1,702 Joined: July 16, 2007	Quote: Seeing as how I'm a part of the Shadow fandom and see stuff like that first hand and am also very interested in characters as a whole, I understand the whole range of feelings one can get from a character. But some of these fans have taken it too far, stepping into the line of immature admiration to something scary as in wanting to marry this Edward fellow; completely irrational. But those extremists are not my beef with the whole of Edward fanbase. If the criticisms I've heard are any indication, he is written so horribly you have to wonder how any rational teenager could care for him to any degree in the first place. That's what annoys me about the fanbase-- they like a cesspool of a character, one arguably worse than the hedgehog I mentioned above. It saddens me. Ah yes. The fan base. There was something on Much about it. I've never seen so many screaming girls at once... O__o Kinda sad that everyone is freaking out over him and how amazing he is, because it's a book... It's okay to admire a character, but the obsession with him is retarded. Everyone of my female chums are obsessing over it, and it's to a point of being frightening. xD I can't even state my opinion on the book because I'm afraid a swarm of angry young girls will show up, and kill me. Edited by Royal Conquest, Nov 28 2008, 05:37 PM.
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Lady Miracle	Nov 28 2008, 05:38 PM Post #41
[insert something cheerful here] Posts: 8,037 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,289 Joined: August 20, 2008	Gale Nov 28 2008, 05:10 PM Twilight: First time I ever enjoyed the movie more than the book. My cousin saw the movie. She said she liked the book more... Heh. Kinda ironic. @Seb: LOL.
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Rpg Exposition	Nov 28 2008, 08:59 PM Post #42
Caek is epic, Eh? Posts: 1,084 Group: A Rank Hero Member #9,087 Joined: June 21, 2008	Ehh, im good im tired of my friends talking about it so much. The movie seems okay from what my friend says, i guess. Edited by Rpg Exposition, Nov 28 2008, 09:22 PM.



Lord Tails Fanatic	Nov 28 2008, 09:05 PM Post #43
Posts: 4,340 Group: Former Monarchs Member #4,694 Joined: December 31, 2007	Please stay on the topic of Twilight ONLY, and keep down it down here. I can understand criticism, but don't go overboard here ok.
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Lady Miracle	Nov 29 2008, 10:36 AM Post #44
[insert something cheerful here] Posts: 8,037 Group: Former Monarchs Member #9,289 Joined: August 20, 2008	Well, yesterday I went to Borders for the first time... Like I said, I've only pretty much read books from school. I bought a book I've been wanitng for about, uh... Three years, more or less. It's simple and easy to read, but I like it and that's enough for me. Though I wouldn't mind reading more complex and longer stuff. Anyway, I went in and guess what was displayed at the very entrance. The Twilight series and posters from the movie. All four books in both English and Spanish. The display was being overcrowded by many people and behind it was a display of another Stephenie Meyer book - The Host, or as the Spanish ones read, El Huesped. Though that 'Host' one called my attention by the cover and sound, I didn't look at it any further. My mom told me that we were only going in for the book I had been asking for a long time and that book only. As for the movie, I think I've almost convinced her to take me to see it. If not, I'll just see if I can go with my friends since it's kinda sad to go alone to see a movie on the big screen.
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ExTengoku	Dec 22 2008, 09:42 AM Post #45
Skype ID: mipnxx Posts: 1,935 Group: S Rank Hero Member #2,154 Joined: August 27, 2007	Tails fanatic: Thanks. ~~No one im ny school likes eragon.~~ I probably like Twilight Cuz the only other series in the past 3 years I've read is Series of Unfortunate Events.



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