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What are your opinions on software piracy?
Topic Started: Oct 30 2008, 10:53 AM (245 Views)
Eprahim	Oct 30 2008, 10:53 AM Post #1
GENTLEMEN. Posts: 3,538 Group: E-Rank Legend Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: ZZzzZZZzz Playstation Network ID: No PS3 for me. Xbox Live Gamertag: Eprahim Wii Friend Code: Who has one? Blog ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH	Well, I just wanted to make a topic like this. Now, we all know about companies and rights associations talking about Software Piracy. Personally, I have a very... twisted view on the situation. For example, I keep my XBOX 360 by my dad, so I can play it only by him. I happen to have TES IV: Oblivion on it. I couldn't play it during days of the week. I didn't, but I think I had the right to download the PC version on my mum's computer. Also, at my advice, piracy is not "anti-capitalism". It's capitalism, in the purest form. Many game companies give demos of their games to us, and almost all times they contain the only good level in all the game. With downloaded files it's you who decides, since you actually have the whole game upon you. I don't know you guys, but when I download a videogame and don't get bored of it, I uninstall the game and buy it in the shop. That's because the actual videogame company has earned my money. With movies... eh... there are only three cases in which I download movies: 1) I am extremely pissed off at one of the guys who made the actual movie. 2) I don't have time in this period to go at the cinema. 3) I can't find it anywhere. If it's the third case, do I have the right to download it? Discuss.
	Spoiler: click to toggle BOB PAGE Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. WALTON SIMONS I take it he was agreeable? BOB PAGE He didn't really have a choice. WALTON SIMONS Has he been infected? BOB PAGE Oh yes, most certainly. When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic. WALTON SIMONS This plague -- the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it. BOB PAGE Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them. WALTON SIMONS I've received reports of armed attacks on shipments. There's not enough vaccine to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate. BOB PAGE Of course they're desperate. They can smell their death, and the sound they'll make rattling their cage will serve as a warning to the rest. WALTON SIMONS Mmm. I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think -- intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris. BOB PAGE A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago. We are the future. WALTON SIMONS We have other problems. BOB PAGE UNATCO? WALTON SIMONS Formed by executive order after the terrorist strike on the Statue. I have someone in place, though. I'm more concerned about Savage -- he's relocated to Vandenberg. BOB PAGE Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience. And their... ethical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they refuse to consider. WALTON SIMONS The augmentation project? BOB PAGE Among other things -- but I must admit that I have been somewhat disappointed in the performance of the primary unit. WALTON SIMONS The secondary unit should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on his progress. If necessary, the primary will be terminated. BOB PAGE We've had to endure much, you and I, but soon there will be order again, a new age. Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings. Gods.


cap	Oct 30 2008, 11:14 AM Post #2
Wired to the moon Posts: 1,961 Group: =SB= GFX Army Member #5,164 Joined: January 17, 2008 Gender: Male	cough Pretends Ephy didn't offer him a link to spore torrent Copyright, illegal downloads. It's all definitely wrong, and we know it. It costs the fat cat's millions, out of the billions they keep for themselves. People are fined and even jailed for such acts. Its as bad a sealing from a shop. End off Now if you don't mind, I'm off to play my N64 emulator, whilst downloading music of limewire and youtube.
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Eprahim	Oct 30 2008, 11:24 AM Post #3
GENTLEMEN. Posts: 3,538 Group: E-Rank Legend Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: ZZzzZZZzz Playstation Network ID: No PS3 for me. Xbox Live Gamertag: Eprahim Wii Friend Code: Who has one? Blog ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH	... Spore was annoying as hell. If I bought it, I would be so pissed off.
	Spoiler: click to toggle BOB PAGE Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. WALTON SIMONS I take it he was agreeable? BOB PAGE He didn't really have a choice. WALTON SIMONS Has he been infected? BOB PAGE Oh yes, most certainly. When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic. WALTON SIMONS This plague -- the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it. BOB PAGE Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them. WALTON SIMONS I've received reports of armed attacks on shipments. There's not enough vaccine to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate. BOB PAGE Of course they're desperate. They can smell their death, and the sound they'll make rattling their cage will serve as a warning to the rest. WALTON SIMONS Mmm. I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think -- intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris. BOB PAGE A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago. We are the future. WALTON SIMONS We have other problems. BOB PAGE UNATCO? WALTON SIMONS Formed by executive order after the terrorist strike on the Statue. I have someone in place, though. I'm more concerned about Savage -- he's relocated to Vandenberg. BOB PAGE Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience. And their... ethical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they refuse to consider. WALTON SIMONS The augmentation project? BOB PAGE Among other things -- but I must admit that I have been somewhat disappointed in the performance of the primary unit. WALTON SIMONS The secondary unit should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on his progress. If necessary, the primary will be terminated. BOB PAGE We've had to endure much, you and I, but soon there will be order again, a new age. Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings. Gods.


Venoma3d	Oct 30 2008, 11:49 AM Post #4
BOOM,Headshot. Posts: 3,316 Group: =SB= Governors Member #2,895 Joined: October 13, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: Coup Playstation Network ID: Nope, no luck. Xbox Live Gamertag: Venoma3d Wii Friend Code: Too long to remember	I do it because I can, it's easy and there's no consequences. I only buy the game if I support the company. I'm buying fallout tommorow knowing that I could easly download it right now. ROCK ON BETHSEDA! BLIZZARD AND SEGA! Occasionaly Valve. >>; Yeah the rest I just download when it comes to consoles I have to buy teh Games ;_;
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sMy PANCAKES	Oct 30 2008, 11:56 AM Post #5
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BlizShadow	Oct 30 2008, 12:16 PM Post #6
No. 1 Werehog Supporter! Posts: 2,262 Group: =SB= Queens Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008 Gender: Female Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: Chillin'	I think it's safe to say nearly everyone here has pirated something. It has a low risk factor and is just so convenient, especially when you have no income nor transportation of your own. Sure, 9 times out of 10 the quality sucks nickels but hey, you get what you pay for. xP But in regards to the morality of it, there's two sides to the issue. While piracy does hurt the industry because a Youtube download theoretically equates to one less CD sold, it is not necessarily killing it. And some of the prices of software are ridiculous anyways, forcing people to use an alternative if they want or even need to use the software in question. If industries are that intent on trying to regulate piracy, the easiest thing to do would probably not drop the book on the practice altogether (not that you could), but use it to their advantage as is slowly becoming the case with the numerous and relatively cheap download services available. Sometimes, they're even free as is IMDb's new movie function. Overall, it's somewhat of a grey area, hence why I've not lost any sleep over the numerous soundtracks I've obtained.
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cap	Oct 30 2008, 12:51 PM Post #7
Wired to the moon Posts: 1,961 Group: =SB= GFX Army Member #5,164 Joined: January 17, 2008 Gender: Male	Photoshop CS3 = �300, or well over $600 That, I can understand. I'm looking to take up a job in an area that involves using photoshop all the time. Now, �300 is pretty god damn unreasonable. How much does it cost adobe to make each disk. Oh so little. Now I'd like to ask, if they lowered the price, would they really suffer. No, cause they already make millions. I'm sure they could do with a few million less.
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Arkei	Oct 30 2008, 03:10 PM Post #8
SECRET TIME TRAVELING NAZI MUSLIM Posts: 1,684 Group: S-Rank Hero Member #166 Joined: August 7, 2006 Gender: Male Favorite System: Playstation 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic 3 & Knuckles Current Mood: bored Playstation Network ID: YOURMOMLOLOOLOL Xbox Live Gamertag: Dun have a 360 Wii Friend Code: Dun have a Wii	Honestly I'm 100 percent guilty of this, but not exactly in a bad way. I have at least 10 gigabytes of emulators and roms, but they're all really old, and I really don't see the harm in downloading roms for systems that aren't even made anymore.



Nail Strafer	Oct 30 2008, 04:47 PM Post #9
Silver Posts: 354 Group: E-Rank Soldier Member #8,106 Joined: May 5, 2008	Quote: Honestly I'm 100 percent guilty of this, but not exactly in a bad way. I have at least 10 gigabytes of emulators and roms, but they're all really old, and I really don't see the harm in downloading roms for systems that aren't even made anymore. Well, someone could argue you're stealing revenue from Nintendo and other participating companies by downloading ROMs online, instead of buying them on Virtual Console on the Wii. That's assuming you could get some of the games you downloaded illegally. Anyway, I used to download old Nintendo and Super Nintendo ROMs myself. But I don't need to anymore. It's not because I use Virtual Console. I have a chain of game stores near here called Game X Change that always keeps a big stock of NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. titles on hand. It's pretty cool. I can buy actual NES cartridges for less than what it would cost on Virtual Console. On top of that I absolutely hate using a keyboard instead of a proper controller and my TV. The only games I still emulate are old arcade games. Good arcades are already hard to find, let alone a specific arcade game you want to play (unless that happens to be a Time Crisis title). Quote: That, I can understand. I'm looking to take up a job in an area that involves using photoshop all the time. Now, �300 is pretty god damn unreasonable. How much does it cost adobe to make each disk. Oh so little. Now I'd like to ask, if they lowered the price, would they really suffer. No, cause they already make millions. I'm sure they could do with a few million less. Manufacturing the physical discs isn't where the big costs come from. With a product like a computer program, most of the money is tied up in paying the programmers who develop the software. Also, there's the money needed to market the software, the money needed to ship it to stores, the money for the stores' rent and its employees...I could go on and on for a while. This is also why brand new video games are $50-60, even though the actual discs probably cost next to nothing. Edited by Nail Strafer, Oct 30 2008, 04:54 PM.



Timothy Ulysses, Crusader	Oct 30 2008, 11:36 PM Post #10
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Cy-Fox	Oct 31 2008, 03:31 AM Post #11
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DragonFlame	Oct 31 2008, 03:34 AM Post #12
The Bringer of Flames Posts: 12,012 Group: X-Rank Mythical Legend Member #348 Joined: December 9, 2006 Gender: Male Favorite System: Xbox 360 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic & Knuckles	Your not the only one Arkei downloading tons of roms. I have that as well way back ago. And of course I am downloading music, but that's been uploaded by other people and I don't take that as a serious note of piracy. Anyway I know some of my friends carried out downloading games, while I have always been a trustworthy buyer even if it have cost me almost my whole lifesaving ones. Still I am not innocent ether.
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Nail Strafer	Oct 31 2008, 04:15 AM Post #13
Silver Posts: 354 Group: E-Rank Soldier Member #8,106 Joined: May 5, 2008	Quote: What's the point of keeping an old console if you can sell it and use the money to buy a new one? All you have to do is download an emulator if you really liked the older games and BAM! Everyone wins. That would be the collector's value. Being able to hold the physical game in my hands gives me a great sense of pride, because of this. And it's very easy to satisfy your nostalgia if it ever strikes, not to mention much more satisfying than just playing it on an emulator. And there actually is someone who loses from this arrangement...you. The guy or store who purchases your games/consoles gets it for pennies on the dollar of what it was originally worth. The only exceptions are when what you're selling is pretty new, or if it's a rare collector's item. This is why I rarely sell any game I buy, unless I absolutely hate it and want it out of the house as soon as possible. For example, my copy of Final Fight 3 on the SNES is definitely not worth the $15 I paid for it at Game X Change. It's worth a lot more to me than that. Even if I could sell it back to that store for the same amount of money, I absolutely would not. For years I kicked myself for not buying it when it was new, and when I tried it on emulator it just wasn't the same. I worked way too hard to find that thing, and I can make an extra $15 anyway just by staying at work an extra 40 minutes. Edited by Nail Strafer, Oct 31 2008, 05:07 AM.



Eprahim	Oct 31 2008, 05:00 AM Post #14
GENTLEMEN. Posts: 3,538 Group: E-Rank Legend Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: ZZzzZZZzz Playstation Network ID: No PS3 for me. Xbox Live Gamertag: Eprahim Wii Friend Code: Who has one? Blog ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH	Arkei Oct 30 2008, 03:10 PM Honestly I'm 100 percent guilty of this, but not exactly in a bad way. I have at least 10 gigabytes of emulators and roms, but they're all really old, and I really don't see the harm in downloading roms for systems that aren't even made anymore. I gotta agree with that. I support downloading ROMs for consoles that have been discontinued. Quote: What can I say? My alignment is Chaotic Good. HA HA TIMOTHY IS SHADOW.
	Spoiler: click to toggle BOB PAGE Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. WALTON SIMONS I take it he was agreeable? BOB PAGE He didn't really have a choice. WALTON SIMONS Has he been infected? BOB PAGE Oh yes, most certainly. When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic. WALTON SIMONS This plague -- the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it. BOB PAGE Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them. WALTON SIMONS I've received reports of armed attacks on shipments. There's not enough vaccine to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate. BOB PAGE Of course they're desperate. They can smell their death, and the sound they'll make rattling their cage will serve as a warning to the rest. WALTON SIMONS Mmm. I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think -- intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris. BOB PAGE A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago. We are the future. WALTON SIMONS We have other problems. BOB PAGE UNATCO? WALTON SIMONS Formed by executive order after the terrorist strike on the Statue. I have someone in place, though. I'm more concerned about Savage -- he's relocated to Vandenberg. BOB PAGE Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience. And their... ethical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they refuse to consider. WALTON SIMONS The augmentation project? BOB PAGE Among other things -- but I must admit that I have been somewhat disappointed in the performance of the primary unit. WALTON SIMONS The secondary unit should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on his progress. If necessary, the primary will be terminated. BOB PAGE We've had to endure much, you and I, but soon there will be order again, a new age. Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings. Gods.


Nail Strafer	Oct 31 2008, 05:11 AM Post #15
Silver Posts: 354 Group: E-Rank Soldier Member #8,106 Joined: May 5, 2008	Quote: I gotta agree with that. I support downloading ROMs for consoles that have been discontinued. But what about ROMs you can purchase on Virtual Console? Or the old arcade and console games you can get on Xbox Arcade? The "I can't buy it anyway because the game/console was discontinued long ago" argument doesn't really hold up in this case. I feel like I'm being a wet blanket here, but it could be a good issue to discuss in a topic like this. Edited by Nail Strafer, Oct 31 2008, 05:19 AM.



Eprahim	Oct 31 2008, 01:39 PM Post #16
GENTLEMEN. Posts: 3,538 Group: E-Rank Legend Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: ZZzzZZZzz Playstation Network ID: No PS3 for me. Xbox Live Gamertag: Eprahim Wii Friend Code: Who has one? Blog ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH	Nail Strafer Oct 31 2008, 05:11 AM Quote: I gotta agree with that. I support downloading ROMs for consoles that have been discontinued. But what about ROMs you can purchase on Virtual Console? Or the old arcade and console games you can get on Xbox Arcade? The "I can't buy it anyway because the game/console was discontinued long ago" argument doesn't really hold up in this case. I feel like I'm being a wet blanket here, but it could be a good issue to discuss in a topic like this. Why should I buy something from the company who didn't make it?
	Spoiler: click to toggle BOB PAGE Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. WALTON SIMONS I take it he was agreeable? BOB PAGE He didn't really have a choice. WALTON SIMONS Has he been infected? BOB PAGE Oh yes, most certainly. When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic. WALTON SIMONS This plague -- the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it. BOB PAGE Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them. WALTON SIMONS I've received reports of armed attacks on shipments. There's not enough vaccine to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate. BOB PAGE Of course they're desperate. They can smell their death, and the sound they'll make rattling their cage will serve as a warning to the rest. WALTON SIMONS Mmm. I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think -- intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris. BOB PAGE A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago. We are the future. WALTON SIMONS We have other problems. BOB PAGE UNATCO? WALTON SIMONS Formed by executive order after the terrorist strike on the Statue. I have someone in place, though. I'm more concerned about Savage -- he's relocated to Vandenberg. BOB PAGE Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience. And their... ethical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they refuse to consider. WALTON SIMONS The augmentation project? BOB PAGE Among other things -- but I must admit that I have been somewhat disappointed in the performance of the primary unit. WALTON SIMONS The secondary unit should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on his progress. If necessary, the primary will be terminated. BOB PAGE We've had to endure much, you and I, but soon there will be order again, a new age. Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings. Gods.


Nail Strafer	Oct 31 2008, 02:19 PM Post #17
Silver Posts: 354 Group: E-Rank Soldier Member #8,106 Joined: May 5, 2008	Quote: Why should I buy something from the company who didn't make it? Nintendo ROMs on Virtual Console, anyone? Also, I bet Nintendo handed out checks to third parties, for the right to post third party ROMs on Virtual Console. So, Nintendo would be looking to collect on those who steal profits by downloading the ROM for free elsewhere. Or maybe Third Party gets a little bit of the profits for every ROM download on Virtual Console of their games, so they'd be interested in making sure their game is not distributed through illegal channels too...especially considering they hold the copyright and all. My point is, these companies are trying to make money off their old games again. I'm okay with downloading a ROM if the game in question is rather old and the company's basically abandoned it. But Virtual Console games don't fit the latter any longer. Now they're trying to turn a profit again. It's why I would object to downloading games I could pay for on Virtual Console. Edited by Nail Strafer, Oct 31 2008, 02:51 PM.



Eprahim	Nov 1 2008, 01:09 AM Post #18
GENTLEMEN. Posts: 3,538 Group: E-Rank Legend Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: ZZzzZZZzz Playstation Network ID: No PS3 for me. Xbox Live Gamertag: Eprahim Wii Friend Code: Who has one? Blog ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH	Nail Strafer Oct 31 2008, 02:19 PM Quote: Why should I buy something from the company who didn't make it? Nintendo ROMs on Virtual Console, anyone? I don't have a Wii, so I should buy one just to have the right to download ROMS?
	Spoiler: click to toggle BOB PAGE Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. WALTON SIMONS I take it he was agreeable? BOB PAGE He didn't really have a choice. WALTON SIMONS Has he been infected? BOB PAGE Oh yes, most certainly. When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic. WALTON SIMONS This plague -- the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it. BOB PAGE Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them. WALTON SIMONS I've received reports of armed attacks on shipments. There's not enough vaccine to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate. BOB PAGE Of course they're desperate. They can smell their death, and the sound they'll make rattling their cage will serve as a warning to the rest. WALTON SIMONS Mmm. I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think -- intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris. BOB PAGE A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago. We are the future. WALTON SIMONS We have other problems. BOB PAGE UNATCO? WALTON SIMONS Formed by executive order after the terrorist strike on the Statue. I have someone in place, though. I'm more concerned about Savage -- he's relocated to Vandenberg. BOB PAGE Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience. And their... ethical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they refuse to consider. WALTON SIMONS The augmentation project? BOB PAGE Among other things -- but I must admit that I have been somewhat disappointed in the performance of the primary unit. WALTON SIMONS The secondary unit should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on his progress. If necessary, the primary will be terminated. BOB PAGE We've had to endure much, you and I, but soon there will be order again, a new age. Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings. Gods.


Shadre	Nov 1 2008, 06:20 AM Post #19
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Nail Strafer	Nov 1 2008, 08:24 AM Post #20
Silver Posts: 354 Group: E-Rank Soldier Member #8,106 Joined: May 5, 2008	Quote: I don't have a Wii, so I should buy one just to have the right to download ROMS? If I were in your shoes and I really wanted some of the ROMs on Virtual Console, I would. Nintendo and Third Party are now trying to make money off of their old games again, so I'd feel like I was directly stealing profits from them. I'm sorry, it would go against my personal ethics to do otherwise. I mean, we already buy new, expensive systems just for the right to play games we really want to try, anyway. Oh, and this is also why I mostly download video game soundtracks. A lot of the soundtracks I have were never released on a CD or anything. So, because these companies did not try to capitalize on this, I don't feel like I am taking any money from them. I also have a large collection of music from the Initial D anime. None of their music CDs ever made it to American shores, so once again they wouldn't have made any money off me anyway. Movie soundtracks and actual albums I avoid. These were printed on CDs, so obviously the companies involved are interested in making sure you go through the legal channels. Edited by Nail Strafer, Nov 1 2008, 08:33 AM.



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