Why does everyone favor Sonic CD?

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Why does everyone favor Sonic CD?
Topic Started: Jun 15 2008, 12:42 PM (449 Views)
Ray	Jun 15 2008, 12:42 PM Post #1
Egg Viper Posts: 1,812 Group: S-Rank Hero Member #4,279 Joined: December 13, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2	I like it, it's just not my favorite. I prefer the original Sonic series over this game. It was ok, but it just wasn't my favorite. It brought a new feel to the series, but the game's levels weren't all spectacular... I'm just one that prefers the original series I guess.



KAPPY	Jun 15 2008, 02:00 PM Post #2
Blaze Posts: 175 Group: E-Rank Guardian Member #9,066 Joined: June 14, 2008 Gender: Male Favorite System: Xbox 360 I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Rush Adventure Current Mood: Meh....	~~Because they're all idiots!~~ It's a mystery we may never know. I never liked it much.
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Whispy	Jun 15 2008, 04:56 PM Post #3
Tails Doll Posts: 804 Group: D-Rank Hero Member #1,516 Joined: June 27, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Xbox 360 I'm Browsing With: Internet Explorer 7 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic 3 & Knuckles Current Mood: Doing...whatever	Sonic CD was a really good sonic game, the way you change the fate of a level...kind of. I played it for a long time, died a bunch on the 5th level, then quit. I think it was a fun game...
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BlizShadow	Jun 15 2008, 05:04 PM Post #4
WTF? Posts: 1,983 Group: =SB= Queens Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008 Gender: Female Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 2 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: Chillin'	Honestly, I enjoyed Sonic 3D Blast much more than I did CD. I've ranted it on it before, but just to be brief, it's like Sonic 1 buggered up. The level design is cramped and nonsensical, the physics in general are hard to work with, and Sonic is much slower than normal. The entire experience compared to what its fans claim it is is totally underwhelming. The only thing I give it credit for is its opening and ending sequences, but otherwise, I think it's one of the most overhyped Sonic games in existence.
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Bowie	Jun 15 2008, 05:07 PM Post #5
Shall EAT YOUR SOUL! Posts: 1,290 Group: =SB= Governors Member #7,312 Joined: April 10, 2008 Gender: Male Favorite System: Xbox 360 I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic 3 & Knuckles Current Mood: Tired but Happeh! Xbox Live Gamertag: allbowdown / BAKORO Wii Friend Code: 4472-8617-6792-9694	BlizShadow Jun 15 2008, 05:04 PM Honestly, I enjoyed Sonic 3D Blast much more than I did CD. I've ranted it on it before, but just to be brief, it's like Sonic 1 buggered up. The level design is cramped and nonsensical, the physics in general are hard to work with, and Sonic is much slower than normal. The entire experience compared to what its fans claim it is is totally underwhelming. The only thing I give it credit for is its opening and ending sequences, but otherwise, I think it's one of the most overhyped Sonic games in existence. I completely agree. I play both on my PC from time to time... 3D Blast > CD I hate feeling so sluggish as the fastest thing on 2 legs. Felt like a really REALLY low standard.
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Zal	Jun 15 2008, 05:12 PM Post #6
Tails Doll Posts: 823 Group: D-Rank Hero Member #5,330 Joined: January 23, 2008	why don't you like it, why do you like sonic, why do some people on her elike 3D blast more? all of this and more(including this topic) have the same answer. because they freakin do, doesn't get much simpler than that.
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BlizShadow	Jun 15 2008, 05:21 PM Post #7
WTF? Posts: 1,983 Group: =SB= Queens Member #6,722 Joined: March 16, 2008 Gender: Female Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 2 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: Chillin'	There's absolutely nothing wrong with discussing a person's reasoning behind why they like or don't like a particular thing, you know. XP;; If we all had that attitude, we wouldn't talk about a lot of things, as you ironically managed to point out.
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True Blue	Jun 15 2008, 05:55 PM Post #8
Just a guy that loves adventure! Posts: 1,088 Group: B-Rank Hero Member #6,471 Joined: March 5, 2008 Gender: Male Favorite System: Wii I'm Browsing With: Internet Explorer 7 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: Like the Wind Playstation Network ID: It Doesn't Matter Xbox Live Gamertag: His World Wii Friend Code: Endless Possibility	BlizShadow Jun 15 2008, 05:04 PM Honestly, I enjoyed Sonic 3D Blast much more than I did CD. I've ranted it on it before, but just to be brief, it's like Sonic 1 buggered up. The level design is cramped and nonsensical, the physics in general are hard to work with, and Sonic is much slower than normal. The entire experience compared to what its fans claim it is is totally underwhelming. The only thing I give it credit for is its opening and ending sequences, but otherwise, I think it's one of the most overhyped Sonic games in existence. QUOTED FOR GREAT TRUTH!!!
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Godot	Jun 15 2008, 07:00 PM Post #9
Amy Posts: 28 Group: E-Rank Mobian Member #9,062 Joined: June 13, 2008	:evil: That is all. Oh! And the three different versions of each level. I don't have a problem with the physics or the speed. And I skip the intro and I still love it more than any other.
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KAPPY	Jun 16 2008, 04:23 AM Post #10
Blaze Posts: 175 Group: E-Rank Guardian Member #9,066 Joined: June 14, 2008 Gender: Male Favorite System: Xbox 360 I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Rush Adventure Current Mood: Meh....	When I play this game, it just feels like me playing Sonic 06. AKA: It's horrible.
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Demon Manic	Jun 16 2008, 03:13 PM Post #11
The Unforgiven Posts: 370 Group: E-Rank Soldier Member #9,022 Joined: May 29, 2008 Gender: Female Favorite System: Wii Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic 2006 Current Mood: Omnomnom. D<	There aren't three versions of each level. There are four. Personally, I liked Sonic CD. The time travel in this game, unlike in '06, was pretty neat. You can go to the past and save the future... Or you can skip going to the past and just go straight through the levels in the present, or you can go to another time. The four different versions each have a different layout and color scheme, and pretty much everything changes. The past is often bright and rural, while the darker future tends to be... Well, dark. And mechanical. Then there's the good future, which is bright and happy. The present is just... Present, yanno. The slower Sonic, of course, wasn't wonderful. And Sonic's sprites were pretty much taken from Sonic 1. But then, all games have their ups and downs. Oh yeah, I completed the entire game. Let me just say... Metal Sonic running head-on into a wall... Is awesome. D:
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sMy PANCAKES	Jun 16 2008, 05:49 PM Post #12
Oh it's the most wonderful time of the year... Posts: 747 Group: =SB= GFX Army Member #5,777 Joined: February 9, 2008 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic 3 & Knuckles Current Mood: Severely Mediocre	I don't favor it, nor do I detest it. I thought the game was ONE OF the best, but not THE. I prefer Sonic 3 & Knux definatly.
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Neo Metallix	Jun 16 2008, 05:58 PM Post #13
~=Metal Overlord=~ Posts: 10,079 Group: =SB= Emperor Member #1 Joined: April 8, 2006 Gender: Male Favorite System: Playstation 3 I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure Current Mood: Excited!!	I agree that it's not the best, but I think it's pretty cool because of how advanced it looks. Way advanced for its time and way ahead of the Genesis games in terms of style. The gameplay isn't the best though.
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Ray	Jun 17 2008, 08:03 AM Post #14
Egg Viper Posts: 1,812 Group: S-Rank Hero Member #4,279 Joined: December 13, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2	BlizShadow Jun 15 2008, 05:21 PM There's absolutely nothing wrong with discussing a person's reasoning behind why they like or don't like a particular thing, you know. XP;; If we all had that attitude, we wouldn't talk about a lot of things, as you ironically managed to point out. Thank you. I agree. This game is ok in my opinion, I just wanted to see why people favored it over others I thought were better.



A.C.193	Jun 20 2008, 04:19 PM Post #15
Tails Posts: 50 Group: D-Rank Mobian Member #8,738 Joined: May 22, 2008	Second best Sonic game in my list. I like how you can travel into the past and future. The music for the game was awesome. I like how the stages for the future were done. I love how you could charge his speed with his feet -Nothing wrong with the spin Dash, but I believe it's overused-. And I love the way they put it into an anime style -If only I could find the art work on this game-. The only thing that could have made the game better, was if they used Metal Sonic more in the game. ~Oro Edited by A.C.193, Jun 20 2008, 04:20 PM.



Omega RKB	Jun 20 2008, 04:24 PM Post #16
You should not be here mortal! (and the rest...) Posts: 575 Group: A-Rank Guardian Member #1,767 Joined: July 29, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure Current Mood: Must watch suffering Playstation Network ID: Omega RKB Xbox Live Gamertag: Omega RKB	I personally love the game, but the first time i played it was ~~when i illegally downloaded it~~ last week
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Haro	Jun 20 2008, 05:59 PM Post #17
"Hmph."-In slow motion Posts: 1,738 Group: S-Rank Hero Member #7,401 Joined: April 13, 2008 Gender: Male Favorite System: Saturn I'm Browsing With: FireFox 2 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Shuffle Current Mood: Full of love	Sonic was literally WALKING in CD from what I see.
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Ray	Jun 21 2008, 10:27 AM Post #18
Egg Viper Posts: 1,812 Group: S-Rank Hero Member #4,279 Joined: December 13, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2	I did like the music, that was cool.



Eprahim	Jun 21 2008, 11:38 AM Post #19
Patriotic Nigra Posts: 3,318 Group: =SB= Newscaster Member #3,768 Joined: November 21, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure 2 Current Mood: ZZzzZZZzz Playstation Network ID: No PS3 for me. Xbox Live Gamertag: Seelvio Wii Friend Code: Who has one?	Hmm, yeah, music was awesome. Sonic Boom FTW!
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Omega RKB	Jun 21 2008, 01:54 PM Post #20
You should not be here mortal! (and the rest...) Posts: 575 Group: A-Rank Guardian Member #1,767 Joined: July 29, 2007 Gender: Male Favorite System: Dreamcast I'm Browsing With: FireFox 3 Favorite Sonic Game: Sonic Adventure Current Mood: Must watch suffering Playstation Network ID: Omega RKB Xbox Live Gamertag: Omega RKB	Sonic boom , sonic boom sonic boom, save the planet from disaster! I think he was slow because your SUPPOSED to take it slow and try to get good future on all levels and try to get all the stones, i like exploring the whole level, i like how i can play a game like that with sonic style movement, game play ect. Since i got a European ROM, cause I'm from England and always get English stuff so its definitely compatible with my comp ( don't see how ROM's and emulators would be effected but... ), my sonic cd didn't have sonic boom on it, so i made a hack ROM with sonic boom in the European version... Edited by Omega RKB, Jun 21 2008, 02:07 PM.
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