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Sonic Unleashed
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"Sonic Unleashed" has been filed for Trademark. Could this be the rumored next gen Sonic since November 2007? Lookey here:

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All just put it into simpler matters: Dragons and Sonic don't work together. Biolizard was a lizard. Next thing we know we'll be seeing Sonic riding a unicorn and Big the Cat in knight's armor fighting off a school of trolls. That's not Sonic to me. Sounds more like a Halloween fantasy party.

Firstly, the creature that appears in the screenshots hasn't been confirmed to be a traditional dragon or any other type of dragon. Second, this is what I don't get about these usual complaints: Why doesn't this idea fit in the Sonic universe? The established universe has introduced things that are much more far-fetched than some random creature, so I don't see how that beast, or even the werewolf idea, is as "out of place" as you're making it out to be. They're new ideas, yes, but out of place? I'd argue against that.

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What are these so-called non-robot bosses you speak of in games other than the 2006 failure? Chaos was summoned by Eggman, so that's a bit different. Plus, chaos was completely original, dragons are already in plenty of games.

Chaos (SA1), Finalhazard (SA2), Devil Doom (ShtH), Babylon Guardian (Riders), Solaris (Sonic '06), Alf (SatSR). That's the majority of the console installments. And it doesn't really matter how Chaos got there. The fact remains that Chaos is not a robot in any way, shape, or form, nor are any of the other finals bosses I've listed above.

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Firstly, the creature that appears in the screenshots hasn't been confirmed to be a traditional dragon or any other type of dragon. Second, this is what I don't get about these usual complaints: Why doesn't this idea fit in the Sonic universe? The established universe has introduced things that are much more far-fetched than some random creature, so I don't see how that beast, or even the werewolf idea, is as "out of place" as you're making it out to be. They're new ideas, yes, but out of place? I'd argue against that.


Chaos (SA1), Finalhazard (SA2), Devil Doom (ShtH), Babylon Guardian (Riders), Solaris (Sonic '06), Alf (SatSR). That's the majority of the console installments. And it really matter how Chaos got there. The fact remains that Chaos is not a robot in any way, shape, or form, nor are any of the other finals bosses I've listed above.

it's just his "hardcore" fan mania talking. if the developers are putting it into the series REGARDLESS of what it is, or how much you like it or not, it is fitting into the Sonic world. I don't get why everyone gets so spazztic just because an Idea has been used before but is still new too the series.
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Ray, do you even know this werewolf thing is going to be implemented in the game? No. So keep your mouth shut about werewolf Sonic being in gameplay until Sega actually confirm that feature. If it's actually true.
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Mar 30 2008, 10:16 AM
Firstly, the creature that appears in the screenshots hasn't been confirmed to be a traditional dragon or any other type of dragon. Second, this is what I don't get about these usual complaints: Why doesn't this idea fit in the Sonic universe? The established universe has introduced things that are much more far-fetched than some random creature, so I don't see how that beast, or even the werewolf idea, is as "out of place" as you're making it out to be. They're new ideas, yes, but out of place? I'd argue against that.


Chaos (SA1), Finalhazard (SA2), Devil Doom (ShtH), Babylon Guardian (Riders), Solaris (Sonic '06), Alf (SatSR). That's the majority of the console installments. And it really matter how Chaos got there. The fact remains that Chaos is not a robot in any way, shape, or form, nor are any of the other finals bosses I've listed above.

Chaos is an original creature though. Devil Doom I admit was kind of an off-topic idea, but he was from space, not another world, and the game was ok for the most part. Like I said, I never played STH06, but the story does not seem so Sonic-likable to me from what I have seen and heard. Riders I don't even count as a Sonic game (sorry, I just dislike that game)... I don't even know what SARSr is or Alf. So I have not been involved with many of these characters except for Devil Doom who is pretty neat, but it makes sense that he is alien-like from space. Just throwing characters in from other worlds that have no purpose does not make the game series flow better, I'm sorry.
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Mar 30 2008, 12:14 PM
Ray, do you even know this werewolf thing is going to be implemented in the game? No. So keep your mouth shut about werewolf Sonic being in gameplay until Sega actually confirm that feature. If it's actually true.

Just seeing a werewolf Sonic is enough to make me not invited to play the game as it trashes Sonic's appearance in my opinion, and has no flow within the game. This werewolf Sonic takes the bonus away from Super Sonic as well.
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You're making assumptions. You're thinking one little thing will ruin an entire game. You know what. Keep your opinion. Keep yourself from what could be a good game. If you let little details like that keep you away then boy, good luck finding a good Sonic game out there you'll buy.
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Firstly, the creature that appears in the screenshots hasn't been confirmed to be a traditional dragon or any other type of dragon. Second, this is what I don't get about these usual complaints: Why doesn't this idea fit in the Sonic universe? The established universe has introduced things that are much more far-fetched than some random creature, so I don't see how that beast, or even the werewolf idea, is as "out of place" as you're making it out to be. They're new ideas, yes, but out of place? I'd argue against that.


Chaos (SA1), Finalhazard (SA2), Devil Doom (ShtH), Babylon Guardian (Riders), Solaris (Sonic '06), Alf (SatSR). That's the majority of the console installments. And it really matter how Chaos got there. The fact remains that Chaos is not a robot in any way, shape, or form, nor are any of the other finals bosses I've listed above.

Chaos is an original creature though. Devil Doom I admit was kind of an off-topic idea, but he was from space, not another world, and the game was ok for the most part. Like I said, I never played STH06, but the story does not seem so Sonic-likable to me from what I have seen and heard. Riders I don't even count as a Sonic game (sorry, I just dislike that game)... I don't even know what SARSr is or Alf. So I have not been involved with many of these characters except for Devil Doom who is pretty neat, but it makes sense that he is alien-like from space. Just throwing characters in from other worlds that have no purpose does not make the game series flow better, I'm sorry.

So space creatures fit the Sonic World? How exactly is a space creature any more fitting than another world creature?
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Mar 30 2008, 10:16 AM
Firstly, the creature that appears in the screenshots hasn't been confirmed to be a traditional dragon or any other type of dragon. Second, this is what I don't get about these usual complaints: Why doesn't this idea fit in the Sonic universe? The established universe has introduced things that are much more far-fetched than some random creature, so I don't see how that beast, or even the werewolf idea, is as "out of place" as you're making it out to be. They're new ideas, yes, but out of place? I'd argue against that.


Chaos (SA1), Finalhazard (SA2), Devil Doom (ShtH), Babylon Guardian (Riders), Solaris (Sonic '06), Alf (SatSR). That's the majority of the console installments. And it really matter how Chaos got there. The fact remains that Chaos is not a robot in any way, shape, or form, nor are any of the other finals bosses I've listed above.

Chaos is an original creature though. Devil Doom I admit was kind of an off-topic idea, but he was from space, not another world, and the game was ok for the most part. Like I said, I never played STH06, but the story does not seem so Sonic-likable to me from what I have seen and heard. Riders I don't even count as a Sonic game (sorry, I just dislike that game)... I don't even know what SARSr is or Alf. So I have not been involved with many of these characters except for Devil Doom who is pretty neat, but it makes sense that he is alien-like from space. Just throwing characters in from other worlds that have no purpose does not make the game series flow better, I'm sorry.

So space creatures fit the Sonic World? How exactly is a space creature any more fitting than another world creature?

how exactly don't space creature count as being from another planet, that's something I would really like too know considering that even aliens don't just randomly come out of space matter.
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Mar 30 2008, 12:33 PM
You're making assumptions. You're thinking one little thing will ruin an entire game. You know what. Keep your opinion. Keep yourself from what could be a good game. If you let little details like that keep you away then boy, good luck finding a good Sonic game out there you'll buy.

Well, as far as I'm concerned the DS RPG Sonic game looks like a fine one to me, this one just doesn't. When Sonic Team does themselves in again with these dumb ideas, then you'll know why I'm talking the way I am. I don't want Sonic to die, and so far he's dying. The DS game looks like a boost, and I'll be getting it, but it doesn't look like it will support the series enough.
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Mar 30 2008, 04:26 PM
Chaos is an original creature though.  Devil Doom I admit was kind of an off-topic idea, but he was from space, not another world, and the game was ok for the most part.  Like I said, I never played STH06, but the story does not seem so Sonic-likable to me from what I have seen and heard.  Riders I don't even count as a Sonic game (sorry, I just dislike that game)...  I don't even know what SARSr is or Alf.  So I have not been involved with many of these characters except for Devil Doom who is pretty neat, but it makes sense that he is alien-like from space.  Just throwing characters in from other worlds that have no purpose does not make the game series flow better, I'm sorry.

You still haven't explained why exactly a "dragon" or a werewolf form cannot fit into Sonic's world while a mutated chao, a experimental lizard, genies, an alien, and an inter-dimensional god can somehow. It's one thing to dislike an idea, but to say they cannot fit in such a universe that has thrown out more radical ideas in the past and will probably ruin the game boggles my mind and makes you sound a little arrogant. First impressions should not be your final ones, so why not wait to give the game a chance before slagging off an idea that no one really knows about?

Also, what do you mean by "characters that have no purpose"? Do you realize that in the grand scheme of things, every character outside of Sonic and Eggman is equally as expendable, regardless of their popularity or seniority? The extra characters we do have are there to add someway to each of the games they appear in, whether it be gameplay wise or storywise, and never contribute nothing. Each has done something whether you want to regard that or not.
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Firstly, the creature that appears in the screenshots hasn't been confirmed to be a traditional dragon or any other type of dragon. Second, this is what I don't get about these usual complaints: Why doesn't this idea fit in the Sonic universe? The established universe has introduced things that are much more far-fetched than some random creature, so I don't see how that beast, or even the werewolf idea, is as "out of place" as you're making it out to be. They're new ideas, yes, but out of place? I'd argue against that.


Chaos (SA1), Finalhazard (SA2), Devil Doom (ShtH), Babylon Guardian (Riders), Solaris (Sonic '06), Alf (SatSR). That's the majority of the console installments. And it really matter how Chaos got there. The fact remains that Chaos is not a robot in any way, shape, or form, nor are any of the other finals bosses I've listed above.

Chaos is an original creature though. Devil Doom I admit was kind of an off-topic idea, but he was from space, not another world, and the game was ok for the most part. Like I said, I never played STH06, but the story does not seem so Sonic-likable to me from what I have seen and heard. Riders I don't even count as a Sonic game (sorry, I just dislike that game)... I don't even know what SARSr is or Alf. So I have not been involved with many of these characters except for Devil Doom who is pretty neat, but it makes sense that he is alien-like from space. Just throwing characters in from other worlds that have no purpose does not make the game series flow better, I'm sorry.

So space creatures fit the Sonic World? How exactly is a space creature any more fitting than another world creature?

I was just pointing out a creature from space has more significance than a random creature from a new world. It had a good story behind it where it had to do with Shadow (DD). And chaos was protector of the emeralds or something like that. I don't see this dragon-thing having a similar story, nor do I see the werewolf. Sonic has never once had a fantasy medieval element in its game. Every character has a purpose, I do agree, but sometimes purposes can be pointless.
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I was just pointing out a creature from space has more significance than a random creature from a new world. It had a good story behind it where it had to do with Shadow (DD). And chaos was protector of the emeralds or something like that. I don't see this dragon-thing having a similar story, nor do I see the werewolf. Sonic has never once had a fantasy medieval element in its game.

There, you proved my point! You are saying they fit into the world if they have a good story. Hence why you think a dragon will suck, because you don't know its story. It could own Chaos storywise, but since you have no clue as to how it will tie in, you think it will suck.
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There, you proved my point! You are saying they fit into the world if they have a good story. Hence why you think a dragon will suck, because you don't know its story. It could own Chaos storywise, but since you have no clue as to how it will tie in, you think it will suck.

Yes, but a dragon is medieval like, there isn't this much medieval things in previous Sonic games. Therefore, I don't think it fits Sonic's role for a game. At least Sonic went to space, he didn't go to a medieval world. He is not a knight... It's just flat out weird if you ask me. I also don't see Sonic as a nature boy that turns wolf by the moon... Medieval fantasies haven't been in Sonic games, so I don't think they'll work out unless Sonic Team has some serious incentive up their sleeves (which I still find hard to believe).
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Yes, but a dragon is medieval like, there isn't this much medieval things in previous Sonic games. Therefore, I don't think it fits Sonic's role for a game. At least Sonic went to space, he didn't go to a medieval world. He is not a knight... It's just flat out weird if you ask me. I also don't see Sonic as a nature boy that turns wolf by the moon... Medieval fantasies haven't been in Sonic games, so I don't think they'll work out.

There were no lizards in Sonic games before SA2, there were not humans besides Robotnik before Sonic Adventure. None of that really fit into the Sonic world when looking at the previous games, but it's widely accepted now.

A dragon is also not associated with medieval times, it's just a creature that is in medieval films a lot. I don't think it matters, because timelines have been in Sonic before. Sonic CD featured the ability go back into time and Sonic '06 has characters from the future, so it somewhat is related to Sonic.
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Every character has a purpose, I do agree, but sometimes purposes can be pointless.

I find it hard to believe that a fictional character's existence can be entirely pointless when the creators spent valuable time including them in the overall universe. If they're there, they're important. And while one's importance can supersede another's, that does not make the inferior character "pointless."

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Medieval fantasies haven't been in Sonic games, so I don't think they'll work out unless Sonic Team has some serious incentive up their sleeves (which I still find hard to believe).

So basically, you've just admitted that you don't like new ideas at all.

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Yes, but a dragon is medieval like, there isn't this much medieval things in previous Sonic games.

For the last time, the creature has not been confirmed to be a dragon in any way, shape, or form. It is a creature, plain and simple.

[PS: Sonic '06 features a magical princess, medieval castles, and other "medieval" fantasy elements in its plot. So yes, Sonic Team has done it before.]
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