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He was the first to announce that Resistance would be shown to be 20 gigs a week before it was announced, and now the value pack (the exact same specs he gave out) was announced today which makes it 2 for 2 wow . I am really starting to believe this guy knows much more than he should. What do you guys think. This has me extremely exited, I can't wait for TGS. Make that 3 for 3 He also wrote this: Originally Posted by seiferguy Gran Turismo HD... Any news on that? "It's in development and it won't be out for a long time." http://genmay.com/showthread.php?t=667429 Wow, so much to cover - where do I even start? I'll just have to be careful here as there's certain things that aren't supposed to be revealed until the TGS. Lets start with the bad news - the launch lineup is shrinking. Originally, the list was 30 titles (1st and 3rd party). Currently, the list is about 15 titles (can’t get more specific because at this stage it literally changes by the hour). There is an up-side, however. The extra development time is making a world of difference. Some of you saw Heavenly Sword at E3 and it looked pretty good... that is, it looked like your typical 360 game. The team has been hard at work piling on layers and layers of detail and as of right now, it looks like ****ing Advent Children (you thought Metal Gear looked good? You gotta see this). It's also being given a God of War type violence upgrade, since they found out the graphical realism and brutality of the combat (bloodless though it was) was getting it a Mature anyway. Seriously, it will blow your mother****ing mind (although it’s sad that having really awesome graphics influences the ESRB ratings these days). The current release target is March. Killzone 2 - This one has been MIA since last years E3. It is still in development and it is, unequivocally, the PS3s big "secret weapon." Announcements are being held back until closer to the PS3 launch as it's going to generate a monumental amount of buzz. It's one of those things that I can't get into too much detail about. However, it looks exactly like the video. Yeah. That video. LAIR - This won't be out until next summer at the earliest, but this one is also abso****inglutely incredible. Missions basically involve unscripted AI-driven massive scale battles (we're talking Helms Deep here) and you control a single dragon and rider. The game is essentially playing an RTS with itself and it's up to you to influence the tide of the battles. This is also very dark and mature. More bad news, these titles are all now Q1 '07 releases or later. Resistance: Fall of Man is being primed as the killer ap launch title. Some of you are sure to go nuts for it as it's like a crossbreed between Half Life 2 & Call of Duty. Personally, I ****ing hate both those games so I was not terribly impressed with the single player. Now multiplayer is a whole different beast, because the weapons are strange as ****. For example, there's this energy-burst weapon that just passes through solid matter. Almost everything in the environments is destructible (vehicles, concrete barriers, etc) as well and has physical properties. Hence, certain materials will offer better protection than others. Multiplayer is the big focus of R:FoM anyway, with half a dozen game types and support for up to 40 players. Someone asked about sound in the other thread - and while specific technical details were not divulged, the sound in Resistance was discussed at length. Resistance has fully simulated sound waves. The system actually checks distances, atmospheric density, wind, what materials the sound is bouncing off and passing through, etc, and modifies the base sound accordingly. Hence, every sound travels through space in real time and distorts just as it does in the real world. There is also support for 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1 sound setups... so however they are doing it, it borders on overkill. This brings me to BluRay, a controversial topic on this forum as of late. Remember when I was talking about the 360s disc capacity and how it ****ed up Oblivion? Some of you will remember, because I got flamed pretty hard for that (OMG it still looks great, the PC version is the same, waa waa, don’t criticize my console). The Xbox totally ****ed up Oblivion, you can look at the textures and tell where Bethesda cut corners to make it fit on the disc. As a quick side note, Bethesda is working on a special edition of Oblivion just for PS3. We were shown some screenshots (sadly, not the actual game) and it looks like an entirely different game. Every texture is being replaced with new extremely-high resolution ones. It’s basically what Bethesda wanted to do the first time until they ran into the DVDs capacity limit. BluRay fixes that little bottleneck. Those DVDs you love so much, they’re the reason PS3 games are going to ****ing destroy anything available on the 360. 85% of the games currently in development for PS3 will not fit on a single DVD9. To give you an idea of the implications, Resistance: Fall of Man is currently 20GB, and could be around 35GB once cinematics and things are added. Publishers are not being forced to use BDs, but it’s expected that 95% of all PS3 games will use BD discs. The big exception is EA, who uniformly develops for the lowest common denominator. Sony is dedicated to helping companies develop for the superior PS3 then downgrade for the weaker systems. The fruits of this labor will probably not be seen for another year at least. There was a demo, side by side, of an upcoming sports game (can't tell you which one). One was playing on 360 (DVD9) connected to an HDTV running at 720P. The same game was running on a PS3 (BD50) on an identical HDTV at 720P. The differences were unbelievable, simply because the BD has the space to hold all those extremely high resolution textures. The 360 could probably handle them, but they just plain won't fit on the disc. This is just one example of how storage capacity is hurting the 360. Of the parade of developers that spoke to us, the BDs capacity was the number one item of praise. No more having to cut corners or find creative ways to make your game fit on the disc. DVDs are just plain obsolete when you're talking about High-Definition hyper-detailed 3D environments. On a similar note, those of you rooting for HD-DVD as the High-Def standard might want to start selling your stuff while it’s worth something. The format war was basically decided before it even reached store shelves. 80% of the major manufacturing plants have already adopted Blu-Ray. There’s also the small matter of Sony owning, directly or indirectly, nearly half of the movie industry. I could go into more detail, but I’m getting a little off-topic. The point is, Blu-Ray is here to stay and it’s not going anywhere. HD-DVD, having considerably less support at retail and among manufacturers and movie studios, is ****ed. Also, when it comes to the end-user, the Blu-Ray capabilities of the PS3 are going to be very very heavily advertised. Not only will the PS3 ensure that Blu-Ray is the most widely owned HD player in the world, but Sony is going to make sure that people know it and use it. Concerning BD movie costs, they’ve been available for several months now and the average price is $20-$30. Amazon.com is your friend. Ok, onto the multiplayer. Sony is going all out here. Actually, the entire philosophy behind the PS3s development is “no holding back.” You may whine about the price, you may whine about the features (and those of you that do that regularly really look like huge tards, btw. You know who you are) but Sony really wanted to deliver a system with every cool feature they could think of. Furthermore, they want to deliver a system that will survive another decade. MS may release a new Xbox every couple years, but Playstation owners know that their system isn’t going to be obsolete any time soon. Anyhoo, the online service is absolutely, positively, 100% free… no tiers, no subscription. It’s like having Xbox Live Gold, but you don’t have to pay for it. Some of the features include: multiple online IDs (not just one gamertag), friends lists, rankings and skill-based auto-matchmaking, full online profiles, EyeToy and EyeToy HD integration (photo profiles, possibly video chat). There is a full featured web browser and the PS3 will have native Keyboard and Mouse support, although Sony will not be making any 1st party Mice or Keyboards for the system. As for using those peripherals in games, it’s entirely up to the developers but Sony is not disallowing it. Still, they would prefer developers make use of the motion sensitive controller instead. As a side note, the controller motion capabilities are extremely sensitive and accurate. Playing LAIR and WarHawk with it just seemed way more accurate and natural than analogue sticks alone – plus it frees up the analogues for other functionality. You’ll see what I mean when you get a taste of LAIR. It’s ****ing incredible. In terms of 3rd party support, more than 10,000 SDKs have been shipped and more than 350 confirmed titles in active development. Production of the console itself is proceeding right on target. Reports of cell yields and HDMI 1.3 available have absolutely no impact on the production process. The cell has naturally lower yields due to the fact that it’s a new and more powerful technology. The yields were of the Cell were known far in advance of active production. As some of you know, wafers are rated. Only the best make it into the PS3, the others are sorted for other less demanding uses. The PS3 is shipping with all 8 cores enabled (1PPE + 7 SPEs). Reports of SPEs “dying” are just plain rubbish. 3rd party developers (EA, UbiSoft) have already announced their pricing schemes for next-gen games. PS3 games will generally cost the same as Xbox 360 titles. The $10 hike in price across the board is meant to cover additional production costs resulting from the need to produce higher quality HD-quality assets. Better graphics means higher production costs. North America will be getting approximately 700,000 of the first 2 million units. For comparison, the 360 shipped 400,000 units in NA followed by a 5-month complete production shutdown. There will be a second major shipment before Christmas, with an equal number of units (which comes to about 1.4m in NA before Christmas). As of right now, the balance between 20GB and 60GB versions has not been decided. Since both SKUs will be produced at the same plants using the same materials, production can be shifted as needed. It’s most likely that the 60GB version will be the most “common”, however. The 20GB version is indeed capable of 1080p via component. The only holdup is that there is currently no TVs on the market that support 1080p via component. It’s purely an issue of support from TV manufacturers. For the uninformed, the difference between the two models (other than HDD size) is that the 60GB has the following additional features: 802.11g Wireless Networking, Flash card reader (CF, SD, MSP), HDMI (v1.3). Ok, so onto some PSP news… The GPS is currently on hold. Bummer, I know. PSP has outsold DS and DS Lite by 1.2m units (Edit: Checking on this. May actually be NA only). The PSOne emulator will be attached to an October firmware update. The online store for PSP and PS3 should launch soon thereafter (around November 11). A new PSP entertainment pack is coming next month. It costs $250 and includes a 1GB MSPD, ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin Trails (game), and Lords of Dogtown (movie). No headphones. PSP integration with PS3 is still planned. You’ll be able to use your PSP as a remote control for your system. Currently, the plan is that you’ll even be able to see your PS3 screen on your PSP so long as both are connected to the same network (almost like a location-free player). This feature may not be ready for launch, but if it misses, it will be added in an update soon after. More than 200 new PSP titles will ship between now and Christmas! You know about the disaster that was UMD movies? Well there’s a reason for that. Usually Sony works with companies who license their products and lay down certain ground rules (pricing, features, etc). With UMD, they had a hands-off approach and movie studios just started releasing every piece of **bleep** movie in their vault, without special features, at highly inflated prices. Sony is not happy about this at all and is going to try to jump start the UMD movie scene again (could take up to a year) by requiring that releases meet certain guidelines. Guidelines may include an MSRP limit of $15 and that UMDs include all the special features of their DVD equivalents. It’s possible that it may be too late to save, but Sony has a lot of muscle and the PSPs multimedia features are its biggest selling points… especially considering the target consumer is a male between the ages of 21 and 40. Ok, that's enough for now. If I missed something then ask away. I'm off to see some mother****in' snakes... on a mother****in' plane. I've got some pictures too. I'll post those later. |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 01:54 AM Post #2 |
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theres gonna be a of shortages of PS3s, i can just feel it |
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Aug 30 2006, 08:32 AM Post #3 |
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It'll be like PS2 all over again! The shortages will cause people to want it more. lol |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 11:50 AM Post #4 |
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i dunno, maybe for hardcore fans but if like someones parents are looking for one that means they might settle for a 360 or a Wii instead |
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Aug 30 2006, 01:13 PM Post #5 |
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I don't know about that. PS2s price was a big shock too. In todays money it was over $400 dollars. People also earn more today than when PS2 came out. |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 01:16 PM Post #6 |
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im not talking about the price per say, im saying that when people go out to buy a ps3 as a gift or something and they cant find a ps3 anywhere, they will probably settle for a 360 or a Wii |
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Aug 30 2006, 01:18 PM Post #7 |
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Oh! I see what you're saying. Well I don't think that would happen. If a kid asks for something their parents aren't going to buy something different. Most likely they'll say no if they don't. I'm sure lots of people will buy it though not just hardcore Sony fans. People bought PS2 and they weren't hardcore fans, they just weren't little kids and could afford buying one. Anyway all of this news is exciting! Especially how Resistance has realisitic sound that's just like real life with sound waves and crap. lol |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 01:27 PM Post #8 |
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thats what my dad did to me, i asked for a psp, but he got me a ds instead :angry: i eventually bought the psp myself and then traded it in though :lol: and for some reason resistance doesnt really appeal to me, in my eyes its just another first person shooter, and why would i buy a ps3 to play a new fps when i can get halo 3 on my 360 when it comes out? |
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Aug 30 2006, 01:32 PM Post #9 |
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Well it's different kinda. WW2 with aliens. Pretty cool. Halo is overrated, imo. It was just another FPS that got extremely popular. I have much more respect of Insomniac than I do with Bungie. Halo 3 will probably be just another FPS too. The first two didn't bring anything new to the table and I just expect Halo 3 to be the same with better graphics, an ok story, and online. No matter how bad it'll still be praised, because it say Halo on the box. They'd have to screw up pretty bad two times before people start losing interest. It's funny how Halo 1 everyone loved, but when Halo 2 comes out the all say that single player sucks... Which would mean Halo 1 sucked, because it was singleplayer and basically the same. |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 01:38 PM Post #10 |
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well actually halo single player was better then halo 2 imo, halo 2 doesnt let you explore as much as halo did, and thats why people are looking forward to halo 3, because it should balance the single player and multiplayer, and the single player is gonna be more like the original halo, and i have gears of war for WW2 with aliens lol |
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Aug 30 2006, 01:43 PM Post #11 |
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I don't know about GOW. It looks pretty good, but another shooter. lol I'm tired of War games/FPSs. They're all the same and yes Halo was just another FPS too, it just happened to get extremely popular and everyone thought it was the best FPS ever. HA! Halo 3 will be just another FPS, imo. The first two were and I don't see them changing much except graphics and little tweeks/add ons. I have much more respect for insomniac, because they have made great games and great series. They aren't a one hit wonder. Anyway this is getting way off topic. Even if you can get GOW and Halo, Resistance will still be an awesome game even if I personally don't like it. |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 01:51 PM Post #12 |
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dont get me wrong im not praising halo here, i mostly like it for the online mode so i can play with my friends, i agree, there are too many shooters out there, and thats why im not playing anything but sonic games until i get and beat the new game, now, back to the topic, im just not a big fan of ps3, sure some of the games look good, but theres just not a good enough game that i must have for it to warrent me spending that amount of money |
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Aug 30 2006, 01:58 PM Post #13 |
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I feel the same way with 360. All it has is shooters and the racing games aren't great. Haven't seen any good fighting games, platformers, RPGs, etc. I like NFS, but I can get that on PS2. I think PS3 has good games. Warhawk, Resistance, Killzone, Devil May Cry, Untitled Naughty Dog game, Sonic, Motorstorm, Ratchet and Clank. Just intrests me more. If I already had a 360 like I got it for free or something or a gift, I probably wouldn't want a PS3 right away, but still would get it when it's cheaper. |
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| The Katamari King | Aug 30 2006, 02:03 PM Post #14 |
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if i didnt have a 360 already i would still buy one because im too cheap to spend that much on ps3 there arent really many games im looking forward to for either system besides sonic and a few select others, but if kingdom hearts comes out on ps3 im gonna have to get one |
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Aug 30 2006, 02:08 PM Post #15 |
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I just hope they make a Twisted Metal game for PS3. That would be awesome. The only shooters I've liked were Socom, Metal Gear Solid, and Syphon Filter. I just don't really like FPS. I like TPS better. |
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