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Did Metal Sonic actually become Super?; The Metal Sonic from Sonic Heroes
Topic Started: Jul 30 2006, 11:20 AM (352 Views)
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We all know that he copied all the data, and he transformed into the huge Metal Sonc afterwards. But I am wondering if he went into Super form. Because he when he took Chocola Chao he said "Chaos Data has been copied". And seeing as they have a connection with the God Chaos, I am wondering if he could have used that to transform into Super form. Because Chaos protected the emeralds alongside the Chao.

What does everyone else think? I don't know really.
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Chaos Data means Chaos Emeralds power copied and pasted into his programming.
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You can't be too sure about that. As there was no Emeralds that he absored. There's no inexorible evidence that he did that other then him saying "Chaos Data has been copied".When Dr. Robotnick said he had the power of Chaos, he could have very well meant Chaos as in the God Chaos, but not the Chaos Emeralds.

No one has any real evidence.

But what I am saying is this, is it possible that Chaos himself would have a connection to the "Chaos Emeralds"? Chaos has a connection to the Chao, but does Chaos himself have a connection the emeralds themselves? debatable.

And if that's the case, then Metal Sonic did have the "Chaos Emerald Data".

But I am unsure. If Chaos himself had connection with the emeralds. We can't prove that he did. All we can really do is speculate.

If he truely does have a connection with the Chaos Emeralds then the data that was used was indeed combined with his super form, and that may be why Sonic needed Knuckles and Tails to help him out, as they all had their unique abilities intact.

But at the same time Metal Sonic having a Super Form along with everyones data intact would mean his strength could quite easily overcome Sonic Tails and Knuckles even if they were in their Super Form.

Questionable at best.
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Interesting theory you've got here! I'm not so sure though. Maybe, wouldn't he turn yellow though?
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Well... my notions above about Team Sonic possibly not being as powerful is the theory, as for Metal Sonic actually becoming Super or not, that was a theory on Wikipedia, I can't take that credit from the person who developed that theory. But everything else I have said was my own theory.

As for him turning yellow, he doesn't really have to.

Remember that Knuckles himself didn't turn yellow with the Emeralds, also, when Gemeral transformed, he merely changed form. Of course, this is also debated as he could have just used them to transform into somethnig else, but not super.

But still, Knuckles didn't turn yellow, and Shadow turned white.


Now..... transformation also has to be questioned if it is considered "a miracle". The Emeralds were considered something to make a miracle. Does that count? Or is it using it in a different way?

If it's using it in a different way, then I suppose transformation is either in it's own catagory, or Super is in it's own catagory.
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He doesn't have to turn yellow, but he is just like Sonic and Sonic turns yellow. If he did go super though, how could Sonic have beaten him? They'd both be invincible.
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Remember that Super Sonic was actually capable of losing rings in Sonic Advance 2 from Dr. Robotnick's machine when it sucked him in, as well as in Sonic The Hedgehog 3 at the end of launch base. So perhaps Super Sonic isn't completely industructible. Maybe He's roughly unbeatable, but Dr. Robotnick has shown some success in the past.


Maybe with their Team Blast attack, it was considered better then a normal Super form attack, thus it could perce him in Super form. Though it hasn't been proven that they all shared power, some speculate that Sonic merely gave them some of his power, and some speculate that they were all equally Super. However it's debatable.

One thing that might point out their equality is the fact that they all have their own special ability, and though Sonic's special makes him lose rings, it can destroy all of what Knuckles and Tails can destroy, but there attacks don't use up rings, which may point out to them being equal in strength on some level. But it still remains debatable.

Also, on a topic of interest, both Sonic and Shadow transformed when using the emeralds, yet in Sonic Heroes, Sonic was the one who transformed, and made the other 2 transform or gave them some of his power. Something to also be looked into. Perhaps they both are coated like that because they both truely transformed, and Tails and Knuckles didn't, or perhaps Tails and Knuckles have a different type of transformation.

After all, the game skins say ST and SK for Tails's and Knuckles sprites in those forms.
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He would've used the emeralds if he was in super form. He used data to turn into that.
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Well Tails can't be super without the super emeralds and knuckles didn't transform for who knows what reason...
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That's still not proven though RidersDX. There's no proof except speculation.

He could have used data, but you can't prove that, because of the fact that there's no proof that Chao or Chaos have any connect to the Chaos Emeralds. They could, or couldn't. It would seem obvious enough because his name is Chaos, but I think we need more proof then that.

We can merely speculate.

Also Metallix,

Knuckles did become Super Knuckles in Sonic The Hedgehog 3 and Knuckles.

As for Tails. It's possible he can become super now because he could have gotten stronger since the last time he used the Super Emeralds. Even if he couldn't in the past, he could possibly do it now from previously being exposed to the Super Emeralds. After all, they've been proven to have lasting effects on Sonic.

Look what he had after using them in Sonic 2, he could use the insta sheild. And that was proven to be a power from the Chaos Emeralds.
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The super emeralds were only in S3&K. True Tails could have gotten stronger, but neither turned super they just had a nice golden shield around them.
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As I said before. We've no proof of that but our own speculation.

No one said anything, not the creators, no quotes in the game.

All speculation my friend. We need a better reason other then what we observe.

It sounds quite obvious, it's right in front of us,

but we also have the skins as an evidence for both Sonic and Knuckles that this is more complicated then it seems. For Knuckles's skin it was SK, and for Tails it was ST.

They could be Super, you never know.

Also, I never said in my post that the Super Emeralds existed anywhere beside SK3.
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